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On April 17 2012 22:57 Maverick32x wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2012 09:04 marvellosity wrote:On April 17 2012 08:58 Maverick32x wrote:
Just to back track-
@Sandroba-
You mentioned you had told the vig to l10f.. do we have proof on that?
I won't say that confirms you're town, but its pretty close, especially so early in the game....
Back on track-
I don't approve of this Mr. Zentor lynch. A lot of lurkers seem to be coming out of the woodwork to bandwagon on this one... Reading through his filters... not nearly that suspicious...
One huge problem I'm coming up against is reading filters, and wondering if this person is inactive (mavellosity for example) or if they are engaging in PMs with other players to make them seem more 'town'? Given I was talking to VE's wife, I would dare say I talk to people in PM land. I have a null read on her. If you had a specific question or questions, I'd love to give answering a bash. I guess my specific question would be- who are you talking to in PM's and what is your read on them~
There we go. People I spoke to most were Acro (as others can attest), sandroba, and recently wbg. Also had PM contact with others, perhaps notably zentor and GMarshal early.
Reads for me are... difficult. At the moment I'm liking VE's interrogative stance on the GMarshal/sandroba duo. Early on, it was GMarshal that led me to trust sandroba and claim to sandroba. GMarshal's reasoning was that sandroba's plan that was apparently shot down by DrH was a town thing, plus the sheer amount of effort sandroba was putting in.
What makes me uncomfortable is GMarshal's practically complete absence from the thread since then, eye problems not withstanding.
Regarding zentor, in our (somewhat limited) contact I didn't really get a scummy vibe off him. Somewhat annoyingly, Acro told me to be suspicious of Zentor if Acro died, but supplied me with no reasoning for it.
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EBWOP: policy ignoring Vayesh now.
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On April 18 2012 03:50 sandroba wrote:
Yo guys, sorry for my long absence. Problems with my hard drive + sleep deprivation. Zentor is most likely not scum based on the facts claimed. Prpl I don't believe is scum because I don't think scum would never post in the thread as that would likely need to being vigged/bomb/lurker lynched etc.
I want to lynch jackal for inconsistent item claim (there are 2 claims of copies of an item that does exactly the same as his does, but with a different name) and the fact that he is useless. He refuses to answer me with his read on coag that is supposed to be very accurate and I believe both are scum. Also yeah Node is always inactive. While Node definitively needs to step up, his lurking is not indicative of alignment.
Pretty much jackal has to be scum by process of elimination too. So there you go.
Bolded part is most interesting. Further details sandroba? Jackal?
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So did you claim an item to sandroba or not, jackal?
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Why would you lie to him making something up? Don't you realise how dangerous that is? Why not just say you have no item.
Help us out here Jackal - what was your town motivation for lying to sandroba by inventing an item/name?
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On April 18 2012 07:26 Jackal58 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2012 07:16 marvellosity wrote:
Why would you lie to him making something up? Don't you realise how dangerous that is? Why not just say you have no item.
Help us out here Jackal - what was your town motivation for lying to sandroba by inventing an item/name? Because I have a habit of dieing early.
But how does it help town in any way, you lying about having an item? What relevance has you dying early got to do with anything? I don't get it
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This whole conversation is entirely unsatisfactory.
##Vote: Jackal58
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On April 18 2012 07:34 sandroba wrote:
Jackal claimed he had a vet item.
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Ok I didn't know this, that at least makes sense now.
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On April 18 2012 22:21 GMarshal wrote:
So, I had a retinal detachment yesterday as a result of an allergic reaction to some of eyedrops I was given. Had another fun filled day in a hospital -__-
This is not my week.
I will tend to you at your bedside, fearless Captain.
Hope things improve! <3
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Has Echelon been active in PM-land? He's been very thread-quiet recently.
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EBWOP: similar sort of question about Erandorr (who has never been thread active)
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On April 20 2012 00:23 VisceraEyes wrote:
Okay, so DRAZERK replaces sandro, not Dirkzor, is this correct?
Kurumi, what do you think about chaoser and wherebugsgo?
VE, I'm curious - how have your reads/understanding of the game changed since Jackal was lynched and sandroba flipped town?
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On April 20 2012 01:09 chaoser wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2012 00:33 VisceraEyes wrote:On April 20 2012 00:29 chaoser wrote:On April 20 2012 00:29 marvellosity wrote:On April 20 2012 00:23 VisceraEyes wrote:
Okay, so DRAZERK replaces sandro, not Dirkzor, is this correct?
Kurumi, what do you think about chaoser and wherebugsgo? VE, I'm curious - how have your reads/understanding of the game changed since Jackal was lynched and sandroba flipped town? seriously... Demean others' effort in the game when I'm not around chaoser. I'm merely demeaning effort that is useless, which is worse than no effort cause at least then you're not wasting your, and everyone else's energy. GM "confirmed" town by way of being the role that sandro is the backup for. Unless you think role doesn't mean alignment or that backups and the original role don't have to be the same alignment, GM is town. To criticize him for not posting much is ridiculous, he had an accident and has been getting medical treatment since then. To criticize his replacement is even more ridiculous since it's been less than 24 hours since the replacement happened. I don't know about WBG but given that he voted between Ace and Sandroba and has been in communication with sandroba in a decently deep level, I'm going to assume he's town. I trust sandroba's judgment there, especially since there are other more scummy people out there (strongandbig, sinani) that need taking care of. If things come down to it where we are completely lost then obviously we need to reconsider but we are not at that point yet. Aside from all this, I'm surprised you're still not on the same page as the rest of us given what has gone down. Kurumi is a bad vote and sadly so is mrzentor at this point and unless I'm mafia that's been buddying sandroba since the very first page of the game starting, to think I'm mafia ridiculous. All in all, you're the one that's annoying. Get with the program please.
Why does role have to = alignment and why do backups have to be the same alignment as the original role?
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On April 20 2012 01:45 chaoser wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2012 01:11 marvellosity wrote:On April 20 2012 01:09 chaoser wrote:On April 20 2012 00:33 VisceraEyes wrote:On April 20 2012 00:29 chaoser wrote:On April 20 2012 00:29 marvellosity wrote:On April 20 2012 00:23 VisceraEyes wrote:
Okay, so DRAZERK replaces sandro, not Dirkzor, is this correct?
Kurumi, what do you think about chaoser and wherebugsgo? VE, I'm curious - how have your reads/understanding of the game changed since Jackal was lynched and sandroba flipped town? seriously... Demean others' effort in the game when I'm not around chaoser. I'm merely demeaning effort that is useless, which is worse than no effort cause at least then you're not wasting your, and everyone else's energy. GM "confirmed" town by way of being the role that sandro is the backup for. Unless you think role doesn't mean alignment or that backups and the original role don't have to be the same alignment, GM is town. To criticize him for not posting much is ridiculous, he had an accident and has been getting medical treatment since then. To criticize his replacement is even more ridiculous since it's been less than 24 hours since the replacement happened. I don't know about WBG but given that he voted between Ace and Sandroba and has been in communication with sandroba in a decently deep level, I'm going to assume he's town. I trust sandroba's judgment there, especially since there are other more scummy people out there (strongandbig, sinani) that need taking care of. If things come down to it where we are completely lost then obviously we need to reconsider but we are not at that point yet. Aside from all this, I'm surprised you're still not on the same page as the rest of us given what has gone down. Kurumi is a bad vote and sadly so is mrzentor at this point and unless I'm mafia that's been buddying sandroba since the very first page of the game starting, to think I'm mafia ridiculous. All in all, you're the one that's annoying. Get with the program please. Why does role have to = alignment and why do backups have to be the same alignment as the original role? They don't but do you really think GM is mafia? If he was, then mafia have all the information sandro has and thus could have prevented the killing of l10f and coag.
No, I find it very unlikely that GM is mafia. I was quibbling the assumption of role/alignment for confirming GM as town - it doesn't, as there's nothing to confirm role = alignment. Your point there about sandroba sharing information with GM is a far more compelling reason for GM to be town.
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I'm interested in you too, baby <3
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Zentor is telling the truth, and he told who he needed to tell
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On April 21 2012 06:59 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2012 06:55 chaoser wrote:On April 21 2012 06:53 VisceraEyes wrote:
chaoser, someone else said I was fear-mongering. Someone who flipped scum.
I'd probably choose my words more carefully sir. lol, what does that even mean? are you threatening me or something? are you saying I'm mafia? or that somehow you'll make me mafia and then kill me? lol. what was the point of that? I'm saying that of all the vets left in the game, I trust you the least. I'm saying that you sharing a mindset with scum looks bad enough, but that you're resorting to dismissal looks even worse. I'm saying that I want to lynch you chaoser, and given enough prompting I may even risk a no-lynch trying to swing it. Don't tempt me.
You couldn't even swing a no-lynch, silly
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On April 21 2012 09:34 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2012 09:20 marvellosity wrote:On April 21 2012 06:59 VisceraEyes wrote:On April 21 2012 06:55 chaoser wrote:On April 21 2012 06:53 VisceraEyes wrote:
chaoser, someone else said I was fear-mongering. Someone who flipped scum.
I'd probably choose my words more carefully sir. lol, what does that even mean? are you threatening me or something? are you saying I'm mafia? or that somehow you'll make me mafia and then kill me? lol. what was the point of that? I'm saying that of all the vets left in the game, I trust you the least. I'm saying that you sharing a mindset with scum looks bad enough, but that you're resorting to dismissal looks even worse. I'm saying that I want to lynch you chaoser, and given enough prompting I may even risk a no-lynch trying to swing it. Don't tempt me. You couldn't even swing a no-lynch, silly ? You doubt me? Even chaoser shut his face, and YOU dare to question my capabilities? Oh sir. OH SIIIIRRRR. No you're right, the bravado was mostly for show. 
I know, and I always enjoy your show <3
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On April 21 2012 09:44 VisceraEyes wrote:
YEAH RIGHT YOU FEAR ME!!
um... o.o
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On April 21 2012 20:22 risk.nuke wrote:About the Ace shot. Sandroba and Gm had been confirmed to me when Gm upgraded the rifle. Still he refused to claim to the group of people who shot scum night 1 and I knew was town, (Did not know sandroba had put a gun against his head in pms). His captain election plan was scum or braindead. And from hearsay I knew Ace wasn't braindead. He wasn't doing anything in the thread kept ignoring my pm's up untill just before I had decided to shoot him. I was almost certain he was scum and in the small chance he was town I still thought him gone would wake up the thread. Alot of people are complaing on how they weren't in the loop and they had nothing to do. This is so damn wrong. Classic scumhunting is always good to do and what's stopping you from pm'ing someone else. All you did was sit on your lazy bums and waited to be pm'd. I was a confirmed town you could talk to. It's funny though. Not a single person approached me. Other then Marv but that was mainly because he had an xray.Huge thanks to Doch and Kita for hosting. The writing in this game was amazing, the nightaction pm I got sent chills through my body. + Show Spoiler +I don't have any idea why sandroba leaked to wbg. That was just monumentally stupid. well played wbg for getting a foot in.
Hey now! I approached you because you're a qtpie, nothing more nothing less.
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