Bastard Mafia

On April 10 2012 09:11 Hassybaby wrote:
I vote C_C for trying to get is to mass claim

On April 10 2012 06:16 layabout wrote:

Put a bullet in Bluelightz and i will hold you

On April 10 2012 06:38 VisceraEyes wrote:
layabout, do you dislike Bluelightz? Do you think Bluelightz is in the scumteam that you're speculating doesn't exist? Why would you want me to shoot Bluelightz?

On April 10 2012 13:38 johnnywup wrote:
ok we've re-rated VE's questions rated R. DO you think it's appropriate now?

On April 10 2012 14:15 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm just curious to know why Bluelightz is all. That seemed pretty specific for so early. Were you not interested in the answers to those questions Cheese?

On April 11 2012 01:17 Macheji wrote:
@ Bluelightz . Quoted off me, check my filter. I had this on my mind since yesterday. I just made it more clearer this time. The reason for witch i can't go 100% in with this is because, in my mind, after 1 day of talking i just can't gather enough "evidence" on a person to be 100% sure of something. There are just not enough facts tbh, and this is the only reason i said that i still keep an open mind. But i back my claim up...
In my mind, layabout is the person i suspect most.... closely to the tought that there aren't any bad guys, only townies separated into different interest groups ( check my post from before ).
If there is nothing to change my mind until the day of the lynch, i will vote for layabout.

On April 11 2012 05:40 Macheji wrote:
Oh and before bluelightz starts accusing me of sheeping or whatever it's called again. I know i used Drazerk's point. I added some details so other people don't have to start checking all the forums for the times. I also said it to show you guys what determined me to cast my vote and to reply to layabout's

On April 11 2012 05:45 Macheji wrote:
We just showed you tbh. It's all Occam's razor here ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam's_razor ). And you being innocent has way more assumptions than you beeing guilty in my eyes .

On April 11 2012 16:38 johnnywup wrote:
oh, figured it was majority. Then to keep layabout more likely to be lynched:

##vote Layabout

On April 11 2012 18:43 phagga wrote:
Hey Bagmanager, where have you been?



Did you actually read the thread? It has been explained pretty well why some people want layabout dead.



And why whould you want that? Care to elaborate before you go hardcore lurking again?

On April 11 2012 19:18 Macheji wrote:
@ Cyber_Cheese . This is the first time i play this game, just tought i have to make a defence after bluelightz "attacked" me. Maybe cuz of excitement, to talk , interact or something. But the first one was really legit, right after he accused me. The second one was because i used some arguments somebody else used before me ( so that my new added details can be understood easier ) and i felt like bluelightz will have another go at me. I just wanted to make my intentions clear. If argumenting my posts and actions when someone accuses me on various reasons is "suspect", and "incriminating" then i don't really know how to act in such a situation . Hmm, it's weird cuz i'm defending myself right now, tought proving innocence would be easier ... between a rock and a hard place huh...

On April 11 2012 19:33 Macheji wrote:


Anything worth mention .... What are you talking about... He has the most things worth mentioning about.
I'll summerise it for you one last time.
1. He proposed 4 people to get lynched so far. The last one beeing me for "missuse" of Occam's Razor ( in reality it's because i'm making a case against him )
2. He lied about posts timing in his "kill bluelightz" posts
3.When people were starting to make a case against him he done this : ... Our claims were preatty clear, we were serious, and transparent, well , how can you EVEN do that. He ends it with "thread is trash" in order to diminish the last page's importance ( the last pages were about why should we lynch him )
4. Then Ok, am i the only one tottaly confused by this... What exactly prooves he's a third party... I find that post bullshit. AND it's 20 minutes after the "thread is bullshit " post. I think that post was made in order to distract the topic from " let's lynch layabout" to ... are there third parties, who is this strongandbig guy etc.

On April 11 2012 21:40 layabout wrote:
Lets assume we are all survivors or town.
Town are not mafia. Survivors are not mafia.

+ Show Spoiler [Filters] +

Very likely survivor:
Johnnywub + Show Spoiler +
strongandbig + Show Spoiler +
Drazerk + Show Spoiler +

Also all three are acting like they do not care about lyching mafia. They are acting like they received a 3rd party role and then decided to mess around.

A sensible townie knows that survivors can win without town and will pay less attention to what someone that claims survivor says. Likewise a sensible survivor will realise the value in getting people to listen to them and would try to avoid claiming survivor.



Probably survivor
Cyber Cheese+ Show Spoiler +


Hassababy + Show Spoiler +
phagga + Show Spoiler +

Town
Jackal + Show Spoiler +
Layabout

which leaves us with:
Greymist
Bluelightz
Viscera Eyes
Bagmanger
Eiii
Sbrubbles

I am fairly sure that Blue and Grey are town but you will need to check for yourself.
Greymist seems very concernned about people not listening to him + Blue's tone indicates that he is thinking about who he thinks might be scum.

so the mafia are likely in here:
Viscera Eyes
Bagmanger
Eiii
Sbrubbles

On April 12 2012 07:53 Drazerk wrote:
all survivors should just claim to be honest there is 0 reason not to as a survivor

On April 12 2012 19:36 Bluelightz wrote:
Oh god........... what the hell happened with Macheji Lolllllllll

Anyway, I have my suspicion on a certain someone.

On April 11 2012 20:57 Bluelightz wrote:
My case is fucking short yayyyyy

Okay first point, he's not posting useless stuff



Both questions, provide no fucking information on what s&b's alignment is.

Second and last(lol) point, He pushed too far on Macheji, I think that Macheji finally cracked as town when he well sorta raged, Like I said in my previous post he seemed geniuinely mad so therefore he is town.

##Vote: Cyber_Cheese

On April 11 2012 21:40 layabout wrote:
Probably survivor
Cyber Cheese+ Show Spoiler +

On April 13 2012 07:38 Sbrubbles wrote:
Well, I can't see Drazerk as lying at this point. The "kill someone" wincons are never alone, acording to the OP, so he has other wincons which he can only hope to further if he's alive. Thus he would never lie in such a manner, knowing we're gonna lynch him tomorrow if he's lying.

##vote Cyber_Cheese

For now, I'm mostly basing my vote on Drazerk, but Macheji, VE and Blue had cases on C_C and I'll try to expand on that later.

On April 13 2012 06:53 Drazerk wrote:
Also CC says he has to kill a target but his win con has no targets.

Further proof he is the SK

On April 10 2012 18:16 phagga wrote:
There is no wincondition that Mafia wins if they outnumber town. The way it is stated, that list is final.

+ Show Spoiler +

So I guess Mafia has the Wincondition that at the End of the Game (which is still to be announced) some people either need to be alive or dead.

On April 10 2012 18:36 Hassybaby wrote:
Makes me think that there are only a bunch of SKs and assassin survivors, and town wins when they're dead. Maybe that means there isn't a Mafia team.

Also, stop trying to apply logic to Drazerk. That's like asking Kenpachi to make a credible case on someone.

On April 13 2012 06:03 Hassybaby wrote:
Ok, that convinces me that there is no Mafia team in this game.

On April 10 2012 09:11 Hassybaby wrote:
I vote C_C for trying to get is to mass claim

On April 11 2012 08:05 Hassybaby wrote:
Wait, are we seriously mass claiming?

On April 11 2012 08:13 Hassybaby wrote:
As long as its not a mass claim, I'm cool with it. We could make an interesting chart to link people up.

On April 13 2012 09:43 Eiii wrote:

Between this:which you haven't refuted, and this:
Seems to suggest that the survivors need to work together somehow. But you don't really seem in on that, which makes you out more to be SK than survivor.

Also, I thought we were going to get game-end conditions today?

On April 13 2012 17:34 johnnywup wrote:
I don't understand what you mean. It came with a different role PM that you could claim?

On April 13 2012 18:47 Bluelightz wrote:
Fuck this, with my case im guessing im going to vote C_C.

##Vote: Cyber_Cheese

Okay certain someone is VE.

On April 13 2012 21:45 Drazerk wrote:
The layabout lynch was good for town now we know the set up.

On April 14 2012 02:07 VisceraEyes wrote:
Because Jackal is experienced and I can trust his take on the setup regardless of his alignment. *shrug*

Feel free to lynch the piss out of me tomorrow if you want - but in the meantime I'm going to be trying to find scum with/for you so the end of the game comes faster. Obviously from my perspective it's a waste of a lynch because I know that I'm not scum, so you're not doing anything to help town by removing me...but I don't expect you to take my word for it.

So yeah, that's where we're at.

On April 14 2012 08:12 Drazerk wrote:
There is no scum we know this

On April 14 2012 09:39 Drazerk wrote:
And guess that you had to protect no one after jonny's claim?

On April 20 2012 20:08 Bluelightz wrote:
if there was a real scum and town this game i wouldnt of got shot. EVER.