EPTGmarshal is making me do it
I have played SC2 mafia, and TL mafia at events.
I will be sporadic until Monday, but then I can start really really reading
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Gmarshal is making me do it I have played SC2 mafia, and TL mafia at events. I will be sporadic until Monday, but then I can start really really reading | ||
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On March 30 2012 22:23 FourFace wrote: I already get scumvibes off you. Be prepared to get tunelled like a tortured traitor SOrry just running the ONOG Invitational until then | ||
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Also will post more in depth as soon as I am done with the ONOG Invitational tonight. It has not been going as smoothly as hoped. Expect a post maybe an hour after it is over, assuming I don't just keel over and die myself, also hoping for no more drama llamas like the last one I would agree with voting out a lurker as well, as I was the only one to announce BEFORE roles were given out that I would be sporadic until a certain day(Monday). I have mostly just skimmed over though the posts and not looked at names too much while skimming, but right now it just seems like a lot of posturing and people expecting people to act like pros during an amateur game. But seriously can we kill the gorram alligator that ate people? | ||
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Don't really want to play with people with his attitude, it isn't helpful even if he is town. | ||
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Goddamit my brain isnt work enough to not be able to edit -_- | ||
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Basically to explain my vote against FourFace was that I really have no patience for dealing with people with bad attitudes and his comment that he was reprimanded for stuck me in a bad way. I see that we lynched a townie, and I will post my conclusions on people tomorrow after I wake up (been working about 20 hours straight), and get a chance to actually digest what is going on | ||
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I have Grubby talking on stream about my work hours for an alibi people that are refusing to believe that I actually wasn't doing the ONOG stuff (which I said I wouldn't be very active until today BEFORE roles were handed to remind you of that). Starting at the beginning of the thread in an in depth read and taking notes now Sorry for the afkness, apparently running, producing, admining and caster wrangling a tournament by yourself actually take about all your time. | ||
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First of all, if you want to know how busy I was this weekend and how I wasnt able to post, I can ask Sheth or Grubby to come post in here for a real life alibi if mod allows it. Secondly gah you guys are so freaking annoying. Here is what I think. Kohbee is false claiming cop, and the real cop is yet to come out. Either that or he is an Albert and is just really so obnoxious that he thinks that people will follow him in his choices, just because he is the cop... even though he has no actual information on anyone. He completely fails at reading comprehension and loves throwing things around at people. His accusation of HiroPro was totally unjustified and was a complete random act based on two lines of posting right after the game started. And for you to repeatedly say I don't give a shit abotu this thread when the whole reason I came in to keep you guys updated on where I was over tournament weekend was a courtesy, that is about as real life scum as it can get. So suck it. Moving onto my next read, which was on therapist, I would look to see who switched their votes to him at the end for scum hiding, which strangely bring us back to HiroPro and Marvelosity. Next on this list of my read is that I truly believe that Kharad is town, the reads I get off of him are very consistent, the only thing that worries me from him unduly is the comment about "back into character" though if you play D&D or other RPGs it is a very common thing to say after a tangent. HiroPro has the same reading comprehension issues that Kohbee has, again yelling at me for being scum for not posting, when I posted the reason why I wasn't posting LONG before roles were given out. I probably should have passed on this game, but I wanted to the Gmarsh at IPL that I actually followed through on what he asked me to do. So sorry about that.Though I have enjoyed his recent posts. And now onto my favoritest person here and why I don't like the reads I get off of him, even if he is town. FourFace! When someone is so incredibly abrasive that they start up arguments on the drop of a hat, this is a bad thing for town, EVEN IF he is town. He can be protown in his words, but still with his tone and completely flooding the thread so it is hard to tell, actually be a detriment to town because it makes it much harder to pay attention to anyone else. If this was IRL mafia I would have sit down on him at this point to make him shut up. He seems to be feeding Kohbee's newer attitude as well, if you notice that Kohbee was much more polite and civil at the start of the thread, but consistently falls down to FourFace's wonderful level at this point. Let me rattle off my favorite moments with FourFace: -voting for himself, repeatedly, and then voting for himself as the third person, saying it shows he is mafia. -when asked what role he would prefer "Roleblocker, so I can roleblock the cop" current relevent note, our "cop" is currently roleblocked" -Saying everyone should share reactions, then announcing that we were all cut off from his reads. -After Kohbee came out as "cop" he said he was "going to let you die" because he couldn't figure it out. He later changed his vote to someone that didn't matter in the end because no one else was voting for them, but the point still stands that he said he would let the supposed cop die jsut because. -Also I deeply enjoyed the lack of comprehension from him again as I was yelled at for not reading the post before I went to bed after working for 20 hours straight. It was probably my favorite moment ever. So even though I originally voted on FourFace off of impulse because of the way he was acting and being so disrespectful (so many homophobic remarks scattered through just his post history in this thread his favorite one being about thumbs up bums) which, in and of itself is bad to have a townie who is so confrontational, argumentative and disrespectful as it distracts from the mafia, his post history does seem to show that he is slightly less than clean. As to the others, Marvelosity is completely new to mafia as he has noted several times, so I would assume that a lot of his reactions are off of being new. People I have no reads of note on so far - solohan50 and strongandbig | ||
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So even though I originally voted on FourFace off of impulse because of the way he was acting and being so disrespectful (so many homophobic remarks scattered through just his post history in this thread his favorite one being about thumbs up bums) which, in and of itself is bad to have a townie who is so confrontational, argumentative and disrespectful as it distracts from the mafia, his post history does seem to show that he is slightly less than clean. I don't think he is clean. And I don't think you are either. | ||
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Now you get all my reads and you say EVERYONE HAS SAID THAT ALREADY SCUM! Of course they have, I was 2 days late to the game. Me quoting everything that was said is easily accessible, but no one else seems to have taken the time to compile it. Also, on an unrelated note, is the alligator who ate a person dead yet? It has the taste for human blood 0.0 | ||
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Even if you are a cop, first day you had no solid read information because we had no night, and now you are claiming role blockage. I am not posting things outright because as we have all noted, the night isn't done yet, so I didn't want to be a huge target for calling you guys out. Too late for that now. If I had posted it a few hours later, I would have just said it blatantly, but since you kept calling me out for posting too late and blah blah blah, I posted it in a way that people can read through the lines. Also notice how I always put cop in quotes. And for a sane cop, you are rather not fitting the role very well. More like paranoid cop, or insane cop. Or police brutality cop (is that a role? I don't know, because this is my first game). | ||
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I just post that I don't believe you are cop, I post all my findings, and while not all of them are original, you just go after me? I'm sorry I suck as an observer all right? Anywho, going off of my post that I made, I will happily go with my gut. ##vote kohbee I do not believe you are the real cop. | ||
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So you are as blind as the rest of us, and need to act like you have power. Or you are mafia. | ||
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The only people who know anything are the mafia. The rest is pure speculation. | ||
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I am saying if someone says more than "I think" or "I believe" it is best to be wary. No one can know right now other than the cop, and the mafia. I don't believe Kohbee is cop, whether he is playing an Albert, or if he is playing fake cop mafia, I am not sure, but I hope for our sakes he isn't actually cop and the real one actually got a read on someone tonight. | ||
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Time to read the OP more closely. | ||
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That would be freaking brilliant! | ||
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His reaction with the umadbro post was just very silly and immature, not something that someone that is trying to lead should be doing. That helped solidify my thoughts that he is not actually cop, though as stated, no one actually knows if there is a cop. | ||
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On April 03 2012 10:20 KharadBanar wrote: I admit that I have been angering myself too much about the state of this thread to actually come up with any reads. You and me both, it was near impossible to find anything with the little tiff that was going on the past few days. | ||
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Kohbee, if you go to IPL I expect that drink. The next reason for why I am suspicious of Kohbee right now is simple. If Kohbee is a cop, why role block instead of simply kill, thereby getting rid of the the blue instead of getting rid of FourFace. I mean yes, I can see that FourFace was probably as aggravating to the mafia as he was to the rest of us, but keeping him alive would have been a good move since it would have essentially stopped the thread from progressing as it had before. Leaving Kohbee alive when the majority of people do not trust him as cop would have been an amazing well we fucked up moment that could have shattered pretty much all the trust going on in here (the little that there is) for good. Then he claims my list of reasons and quotes to be emotional and pity gathering. No I was not pity gathering or begging on emotion. I was simply telling you guys when I would be able to be active once again. The insta lynch of HiroPro that he wanted after TWO sentences is still really raw from the beginning, because those two sentences were apparently the most awkward or scummy things said yet, when they were preceeded by: FourFace's immediate vote for self KB's conversation where he said ot "get back into character" and Some very awkward sentence structure from S&B. | ||
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On April 04 2012 03:47 KharadBanar wrote: The roleblock on Kohbee could also come from a Jailkeeper who wanted to protect him because a doctor is an asset to keep around / keep him from killing someone if he was mafia. Just throwing that out there, I'm far from convinced he's town though. Sure that is a possibility, but it is fairly easy to claim role blocked if the role doesn't exist in the first place. So if we review from the start right now we have a few options. Either way mafia has 1 guy who kills and 1 guy who roll blocks. From there our options are Cop/Doctor Cop/Jailkeep Doctor/Jailkeep just a cop just a doctor or just a jailkeep So if he isn't actually a cop, that means there is a 50/50 chance that someone out there is the cop. If he is the cop that means he either has no protection, a medic for protection, or the only protection he has is the jail keep, which renders him inert since he gets role blocked from that protection every night making him essentially just a normal townie. If he is cap and is getting role blocked by the jail keep, that means that he is trying to throw around extra weight that he doesn't really have either way simply by being blue. Being blue doesn't automatically give you better insight into anything, you need to use your abilities to have those insights. So throwing around weight because he is "cop" is actually fairly detrimental to town, and if he isn't cop, that means that he is also detrimental to town. | ||
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Look at your reactions to whenever the FOS goes to you. You degrade the people pointing it, declare them mafia, seemingly purposefully misinterpret what people are saying and you immediately deflect. That does not seem like confident behavior, especially if you know you are cop. | ||
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FourFace had just pulled out a slur at someone after implying the same slur several times. I don't want to play with someone that is that disrespectful. Especially since it says in the rules that you need to be respectful. I didn't tell you to shut up because you were FOSing me, I told you to shut up because of your constant actions making it impossible to figure out anything in the thread since you were essentially standing in the middle of a highway yelling LOOK AT ME LOOK AT ME I CAN MAKE TRAFFIC STOP LOOK AT ME. I'm referring to the you hating me so much because you deliberately went after someone who was unable to defend themselves because of an absence that was announced BEFORE roles were given out. If someone else had announced, hey I will be mostly AFK until Monday, will try to peak in here and there until then! and you had gone after them I still would have told you to shut up, because that is not a logical or respectful thing to do and is actually IRL scummy, regardless of your role in game. Playing an Albert isn't degrading, it is just the term of a move, being calling cop no matter what. But if we could be quiet for a bit and let the othres actually get a chance to talk so that we don't turn into FourFace v Kohbee v2, I would appreciate having the chance to read some of their reactions to anything. If we just keep the thread going, we will stall the great posts that have been made, such as the nice one earlier by S&B and the one by KB. Call me crazy but we get no new information if it is just 2 people talking. | ||
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On April 04 2012 05:22 omnomMuffins wrote: Oh and an Albert is a term from event TL Mafia, when played in person. There is a twitch.tv staff member who is notorious for being flat out stupid when playing, even when sober. Every game he claims cop, whether he is town, mafia, medic or actually cop. This leads to no one believing him no matter what. He does make the game amusing when played in person though. Selective reading skills are fun let me see what I can find! | ||
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On March 31 2012 00:10 Kohbee wrote: You can't just start off a game with nothing expecting people to have scum reads, thats just not possible. Followed by... You were my second scum team member. Thanks for confirming with me On the first day as your second post during the game! Lets look at the next fun pair. Oh no! Someone calls you out so you refuse to talk to them in any way. I am assume that means that it is super helpful and not deflecty to ignore statements! On April 01 2012 04:04 Kohbee wrote: I don't know why you take offense to my posts. In a completely non-game related comment, you seem to be extremely sensitive to critism of your ideas. Oh no! Someone disagrees with me! Let me tell them how they are wrong by being something I don't approve of! Not to mention the quotes when posting on your roommates accounts that are nuked so we cant see what was said. Ooh now lets look at how your attitude to me couldn't stay consistant even when giving you guys updates on when I would be available. On April 02 2012 03:24 Kohbee wrote: I don't like this vote at all. He has said numerous times why he is not here (onog) and has atleast checked in where solohan has not. If you want to lynch a lurker why are you ignoring solohan. Also, why not vote strongandbig if you think he scumslipped? To, after an update about why I was unable to post, offering on stream recorded alibi's from the trust worthy Grubby. On April 02 2012 22:26 Kohbee wrote: [/b]Omnomnom doesn't give a shit about reading the thread. This could be because of ONOG, but it also could be because of him being scum and watching the town have little to no pressure on him. Basically somewhere between me not being able to pay attention and waking up on Monday you had a complete change of tone, for seemingly no reason. The tone of your posts towards me were tailored to get angry reactions, which you got. | ||
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On April 04 2012 06:11 Kohbee wrote: why include the part about him being flat out stupid if it has nothing to do with the definition of the term. You are back peddling, I read the entire post. You apparently have never been to a real life TL mafia event and for that I am sad for you, they are the funnest things. However you have to realize that Albert makes bad plays in mafia, he is really smart in other ways, and I am wrong to assume that everyone here knows about Albert. Explaining Albert as a person and calling you an Albert is not calling you stupid. Explaining what an Albert is in parlance, is simply claiming cop nonstop. You wanted to know what/who an Albert was so first I told you who, then I told you what. This entire thread reminds me of the Wax, Nazgul, hotbid fights. If all 3 of those are ever town they always still eliminate each other, and it is fairly amusing to watch from the outside, but painful to be in the middle of. The only time you don't see them fighting is when two of them are mafia, or if all of them are, but they still do fight then, their heart just isn't in it. | ||
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I'm heading out to Vegas this weekend for IPL. Is it shorts weather there yet? | ||
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On April 04 2012 06:47 Kohbee wrote: So if omnom flips scum, will i still look less intelligent to you? The point isn't who looks more or less intelligent right now. The two of are look like 3 years olds having a tantrum because we lost our favorite toy. | ||
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On April 04 2012 10:56 Solohan50 wrote: When I was there on Saturday, you could've definitely gotten by with shorts in the day. If the weather was anything like where I broke down at though, shorts would suck at night. To be fair though, we got stuck at the top of the big hill/mountain that's right past the Cali/Nevada border on the I-15S. The altitude difference might make a large difference in the temperature, but it was cold as hell and super windy at night at the place I was stuck at. I was only in town long enough to load up a trailer, grab dinner, and then get out of town. So skirts and shorts on the strip, got it thanks | ||
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On April 04 2012 08:53 Kohbee wrote: Omnom - opinions on solohan, hiropro and KB My read on HiroPro keeps flip flopping. Sometimes he seems town, other times he seems mafia (I hate the word scum, it reminds me of the stuff on top of swamps). Currently I'm reading a little harder on mafia, though that could just be because he missed reading a post of yours earlier (the one with all your reads), which he might have actually missed instead of "missed". KB I think is clean and probably the biggest voice of reason in the thread. He is keeping us from ripping each others throats out. Solohan, no solid read so far. Though the times when he posts always seem to be after a threat, he could just be coincidentally returning at that time or just staying to protect himself. I wouldn't want to lynch him off of that fact alone. On a side note, I love the casting of the Red Witch for this season in the Game of Thrones. I don't know why I am adding this, but my fiance hasn't read the books so I can't gush to him about these things and I am rather exploding with it. | ||
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Just please try to do it more civilly in a way that won't cause everyone to have an immediate backlash against you. Phrasing and word choice matters. The way you phrase things now causes false scum reads because everyone is already irate. | ||
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Though if you could lose the threatening tone with the last line we would be just about perfect. | ||
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As someone who has also made a case against you, simply wanting to lynch you is not a capital offense, if it was most of us will be dead. Sure a mislynch will have repercussions, but keeping around a distraction who is essentially the same as any other townie with the "roleblocking" isn't the worst move we could make. If you do turn up as a blue, well then we are back where we started. Not having a blue since you were "role blocked" anyway. Seeing how people interact without your overlying influence will be the judge of who we lynch next, not you demanding we lynch someone after you die. | ||
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Just keeping people in the loop so that I don't get called out for "not giving a shit about the thread" again. I love mafia. Mafia is the reason eSports exists. eSports is simply an excuse to play Mafia. | ||
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And Kohbee, I got my opinion on you in the thread long before you started smashing on me, just because someone is a jerk doesn't make them mafia. But being a giant distraction helps mafia. You have essentially been a giant distration for the majority of the game, making it impossible to get true reads on anyone. I know. I am reiterating this, and you have tampered down some since you were asked, but please remember that when you go after someone in a rude way they will have a visceral reaction that makes it hard for people to read properly. If you need to go after people, please just use me as a punching bag. Treat the others civilly and respect as you have been doing since I called you out for it and it will be much easier to get true reads on people. | ||
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I am keeping my vote as it stands. | ||
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I will check in when I land both times and will try to be active during the layover and before the first take off. I only post this because I have been accused of dodging questions while working. | ||
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We have no idea how anyone will interact without having the distractions in the game, and the way people react when forced to talk without them will be interesting. I am not so sure that we can jump to the "lynch a lurker" as a mafia tactic, as the people that started it are now confirmed town, and on top of that, this is a newbie game making it so they could just have been like, okay that makes sense. I am sad that Kohbee actually was the cop, especially since he played so belligerently that he couldn't get anyone to trust or believe him, including myself. But again, this is a newbie game so everyone is still learning how to act. | ||
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The only problem I have with voting for Solohan now is that we know that he was jailed last night. This means that if he is mafia, that means that he is not a killer, and not the biggest threat out there. Which means it is one of the rest of us. Marvel, S&B, myself and HiroPro are the ones to be looking at today. The safe vote is for Solohan, but if we want to get the killer, he is not the man. | ||
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##vote: solohan50 For some reason my phone won't let me make it bold. | ||
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Anyway to extrapolate further, the point is that being wrong is not a mafia trait, especially since as town we don't know anything. | ||
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I can't say anything that I haven't said to defend myself. I find no reason to post the same messege repeatedly in the thread. Add the mafia's kill tendencies into the game and anyone who leads the discussion is killed. | ||
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I am leaning towards HiroPro as mafia. Will do a whole post on why once this whole GSTL drama dies down. I reserve the right to change that opinion when I go through the filters again. Though we have seen my record on reading people :-/ this game is hard without body language and tonal inflections. | ||
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Also, sorry I didn't get a chance to post, it has been rather ridiculous here at IPL. Gogo town. | ||
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Getting consistent Internet access there sucked, and I feel bad about not being able to make my last post on time. Well it is newbie mafia and I feel like I was the only real newbie because I kept trying to use the same tactics that are done in person for the forum. Out of curiosity how often do town win these? | ||
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As I said I learned that this time, as well as the time required being much higher than I thought it would be, and while I realize you are pissed for me not realizing this beforehand, it is a newbie game made for learning. You came off as a massive dick the whole game with the attitude which makes people react in a certain way, making it impossible to actually get a neutral read, which leads to pure logic instead of being able to just get reads. When someone is a dick in a real life game, you kill them. I was just using the same rules between the two games, when they are completely different, which again, I already admitted. Notice how you made me get all defensive agin, even though the game is over. It is impossible to get a read off of anyone who has to triple read instead of just gut post since they over analyze it or get overly defensive. | ||
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On April 11 2012 12:02 Solohan50 wrote: As Kohbee said, it stands for Wine In Front of Me. It's based on the scene between Wesley and Vizzini in The Princess Bride: http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=WIFOM Ty. Well clearly I just need to build up my resistance to Iocane powder. | ||
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There needs to be a balance of being aggressive, but not using obnoxious language that sets everyone on edge. Sure, town can have problems from being too polite, but the level of aggression put forward on day 1 and until Kohbee was lynched by the two of them (and myself when I got pissy at them) was so high that it was daunting to even think about posting because of their language and so on. | ||
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