Newbie Mini Mafia VI - Page 2

There is no reason to post this. It will provide a kill list to scum. I would rather post this at the end of night deadline.

On April 04 2012 07:04 KharadBanar wrote:
The same applies the other way around: If you die at some point (seems more probable at this point than omnomMuffins dying) and flip scum, then I'll strongly believe omnomMuffins to be town, because scumbuddies probably won't go to such lenghts as to fake a flame war between each other.

On April 04 2012 08:50 marvellosity wrote:
Hiro, could you please outline your case on omnom a little more? I find he has less negative points than Kohbee does.

Don't really want to play with people with his attitude, it isn't helpful even if he is town.

His reaction with the umadbro post was just very silly and immature, not something that someone that is trying to lead should be doing. That helped solidify my thoughts that he is not actually cop, though as stated, no one actually knows if there is a cop.

On April 05 2012 09:07 marvellosity wrote:
Well shit. I don't like being wrong

Is the case on Solohan so strong that all you guys voted for him and Kohbee is totally convinced he's scum? What am I missing? Why is it him?

On top of that, Kohbee spent the whole day trying to lynch a townie. When that failed, he roleclaimed and bandwagoned a townie right at the end of the day. On top of that, the townie he lynched was one of the most vocal anti-Kohbee players in the thread short of FourFace. This seems like too big of a string of coincidences for me, which is why my vote stayed where it was, and which is why we ended up lynching a fellow townie instead of the real scum.

On April 05 2012 23:18 strongandbig wrote:
Ugh, just noticed a problem with my argument in my last post.

After KB, marvellosity was the second person to jump on the "lunch a lurker" bandwagon against solohan.

This could have been a distancing gambit, but it does throw a wrench into the analysis. What we have to decide is, would marvellosity have believed that there was a realistic chance for solohan to get lynched day 1 for lurking? (Assume for now that if solohan is scum, he was in communication with his buddy despite being afk. Maybe with a smartphone. I think that if one scum actually thought the other scum wasn't going to post that day, he probably wouldn't try to start a lurker lynch bandwagon on him.) Depending on how risky of a move it would have seemed, we can maybe figure out the chance that one scum would join that incipient bandwagon on another.

On April 07 2012 00:37 marvellosity wrote:
Ok. So it seems fairly clear that Solohan is getting lynched this Day cycle unless something very odd happens. So we should try to make our time as productive as possible.

A wise man said to me - a scum's aim is simply to appear as town, whereas a townie's aim is to scumhunt. Which of these takes more effort? Scumhunting. Taking that in mind, I'm left with looking at s&b, Hiro, and omnom. I have fairly strong town reads on s&b (if you are mafia, well played sir). So that leaves Hiro and omnom. I've read both their filters multiple times this afternoon, and I'm ready to take some action. With that in mind, I would like to put forward a case against HiroPro.

The gist of this case will be that Hiro has not attempted to scumhunt, NOR taken any firm stances.

On April 07 2012 00:37 marvellosity wrote:



First we have the vote for omnom, based on the fact he's lurking. Even though we know omnom had a reason to be lurking (it was given). I'd also like to point out omnom's filter is in fact twice as long as Hiro's.

On April 07 2012 00:37 marvellosity wrote:


Hiro then goes on to vote for Solohan and Therapist. in succession. Fair enough, it's Day 1. Let's see Hiro bust out some firm stances and opinions shall we?



1) is probably just lack of thread reading, but I was unvoted at the time, it wasn't a switch. 2 and 3 are more interesting though.
2) Everyone knows omnom is scummy as hell? Because at the start of the game he posted little with due explanation and he voted for a disruptive Fourface? So far you made a ONE LINE case against omnom "illogical vote on fourface" and that's it.
3) Excellent! Both are possible scum. Let's cast suspicion in various directions without making any sort of case or taking any sort of stance. What do you THINK?

On April 07 2012 00:37 marvellosity wrote:


Seems ironic. Looking at omnom's filter, at least he made a firm stance on Kohbee. He also made some sort of case on him (which Hiro has yet to do against anyone). Let's not forget guys, being WRONG on something is not a scumtrait. It's the motivation behind it we have to look at. Mafia have more information than town, remember, so it's easier for them not to be wrong.

None of Hiro's posts have had any real substance whatsoever.

Hiro has casted doubts upon almost everyone in the game, without ever making a case against someone or scumhunting.

Seems like scum.

Town? Discuss.

My stance was perfectly clear when I voted for solohan over Kohbee. Kohbee did not respond the way that a mafia would when I pressured him or when strong and yourself posted reads on him. And I had already become suspicious of the logic that solohan used to make his case. If you'll reread my posts in their entirety without taking little snippets from here and there you will see my logic.

Hiro: you voted for Solohan because "you didn't want mafia to control the vote". You said Kohbee is completely pro-town simply on the basis that he was talking, but that's not why you voted Solohan at the time.