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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 03 2012 00:55 GMT
#651
Same to you Snarfs. BM's alignment is in doubt (because he's not here), but he's certainly right about my alignment, so for the moment I'm going to assume he was right about yours too. What do you think about a Wiggles kill vs. cascades?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 03 2012 00:58 GMT
#655
On April 03 2012 09:53 VisceraEyes wrote:
What do you think about Wiggles, Bugs?


On April 03 2012 09:54 VisceraEyes wrote:
Same question to you prplhz.


Sup?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 03 2012 01:03 GMT
#658
I pull out ze Wiggle Call (patent pending)....

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if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 03 2012 01:05 GMT
#661
I mean, he's been active and he's been driving scum-hunting discussion for a couple hours now. If he's scum, I'm willing to wait him out. I'm leaning town right now. BUT I'M STILL WATCHING YOU WATCH ME BUGS!!!
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 03 2012 01:05 GMT
#663
prpl thx for the help bro. See you tomorrow.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 03 2012 01:27 GMT
#664
Well...this thread died faster than CrunCher's fan-club. We can still get a flip guys, but we need activity to make it happen.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 03 2012 01:32 GMT
#666
I like those points Sbrubbles. What do you think about Wiggles as opposed to a cascades lynch? He has the same number of pushes to lynch, and I find him to be a perfectly viable candidate. What do you think?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 03 2012 01:35 GMT
#668
Wiggles make me understand - were you trying to get a rise out of me to further your read? It seemed very contradictory to me sir, and I'd like to hear your reasoning.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 03 2012 01:47 GMT
#671
On April 02 2012 09:00 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
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On April 02 2012 08:29 VisceraEyes wrote:
There's no reassurance that anyone is town, Wiggles. I'm interested to see what he does with the item, as that will be more of an indicator of his alignment than discussing whether or not he's worthy of the item.

I don't "trust" Palmar, but I know he's smart/experienced enough to know what to do and what not to do with the item if he's town, so I "trust" that I'll be able to gauge his alignment based on how he acts with it.

What do you suggest we do Wiggles? Wait for a confirmed town before we get the item? So do you suggest we kill BM to test his alignment to confirm myself and Snarfs so that one of us can get it? Does that not seem like a horrifying waste of PoPs to you?

No, I don't think someone needs to be confirmed to get the item, but I think that we should see how they post, and get an idea of what their alignment is. There's a difference between judging someone to be town based off their posts, and just blindly trusting them. I think the best indicator of his alignment would be him posting, but he's not doing that, so there's absolutely no reason to think he's town. How he uses the item won't even tell us very much about his alignment either, in my opinion, and that's if he even tells you what it is. It's easy to think of ways to use the items that look pro-town, but don't actually benefit us.

I find it interesting that when I ask a question about why you trust Palmar enough to give him the item, you make gross exaggerations and act incredibly defensive about it. I didn't suggest someone has to be confirmed to be eligible to get the item, and I didn't suggest to flip anyone to try to confirm people, or to waste our PoP's getting the item with someone far up the queue.

Why did you jump to being so irrationally defensive and using exaggerated rhetoric when I asked you a simple question, VE?


@WBG: I'm not exactly sure who I want to kill right now. Based off this last post, and thinking that giving Palmar an item because he asked for it is the most pro-town thing we could do, maybe VE. Or, based on his complete lack of effort, we could flip Palmar.

What do you think of Palmar and VE, WBG? I see you linked a couple people who haven't posted and said you want to kill them, so what do you think of Palmar with his one post?


The bolded paragraph is what I'm referring to - I was just trying to get at what you meant when talking about "trusting Palmar enough with the item" or whatever. It seemed strange to me that you thought we should wait for someone "trustworthy" to go for the item, especially considering how deep into the incineration zone one would have to go to GET the item.

Your response was accusatory - language like "gross exaggerations", "irrationally defensive" and "exaggerated rhetoric" all seem designed to be inflammatory. Am I just reading too much into it or something?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 03 2012 01:52 GMT
#672
Also, Palmar is only 2 pushes away from the Zone still Wiggles, what's your read on Palmar now? Why don't you push him toward the zone, considering his effort hasn't changed at all and that was enough to kill him earlier...the fact that I mounted a rescue mission shouldn't even factor in.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 03 2012 01:53 GMT
#673
Oh Palmar can't be Popped...right...nevermind that last bit. HURRR
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 03 2012 02:19 GMT
#676
And he disappears. And he hasn't PoP'd yet. Waiting to flow with town sentiment Wiggles? Hmmmmm?

And where the EFF did Bugs go? Why am I the only one around 2 hours from deadline?!
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 03 2012 02:20 GMT
#677
There's Snarfs! Thoughts on Wiggles bro, GOGOGO!!
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 03 2012 02:28 GMT
#681
No you're right bugs, because nothing is happening there's nothing to talk about.

-.-
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 03 2012 02:30 GMT
#682
How about this: let's assume no flip based on the activity right now.

Beyond pushing Palmar hard for contributions (which EVERYONE should be doing tomorrow) what do you think we should be looking at first when deciding who to feed to the flames?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 03 2012 02:53 GMT
#685
On April 03 2012 11:50 Snarfs wrote:
I think one thing stands out the most in Wiggles' filter: Aside from the parts you made bold, he's being very diplomatic.

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All the claims coming out are silly. Half of you aren't even under a ton of pressure, and that makes your claims even more nonsensical. Looking at you, Palmar and risk.nuke. Palmar claimed because someone guessed his role. risk.nuke claimed... just because, from what I can see.

He uses the word 'silly' to push Palmar and risk.nuke... hardly putting pressure on if that's what was intended.

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People have been saying Mattchew has been pushing a lot for Palmar to get the item, so if that's true, and Palmar's telling the truth, then that makes him look a lot worse. Same thing with others strongly supporting going for the item with Palmar. We'll have to look at them all.

Doesn't outright say what he's thinking here.

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So, Syllo>Shrubbles, but I'd like them both to post more, so I can get a more concrete read.

Fair enough, need them to post more, but again not really taking a stance.

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I think either of Mattchew or Bluelightz are good targets for my push, and I'd probably go with Bluelightz.

Again, it just seems kind of... weak. Like he's not trying to actually pressure anyone or find any scum.


Looking at JubJub day 1, he seems a little more aggressive and more willing to call people out for doing dumb things.

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What the hell? How's there no harm in someone asking you for your role? Why would another townie want to know your role, or more importantly need to know your role? If you're a townie, and you're rolefishing, you're just being dumb. You look like scum.


To be fair, everything you just said points toward a scumWiggles - scum are going to say things you agree with...if they didn't, they'd be really easy to find every game wouldn't they?

But fair enough, thank you for your thoughts sir. Keep everything you just said in mind tomorrow.

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Caller, why haven't you actually been pushing for Jackal's lynch if you want to kill him?


etc.

I wouldn't put him at the top of my scum list though because I've agreed with some of the points he actually has made (ie. there was no reason to assume Palmar was the best person to get the item, people shouldn't necessarily have been tossing claims out) AND I think that some people who have played more games with him will be better judges than I can be of his behaviour.

if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 03 2012 02:54 GMT
#686
EBWOP

On April 03 2012 11:50 Snarfs wrote:
I think one thing stands out the most in Wiggles' filter: Aside from the parts you made bold, he's being very diplomatic.

Show nested quote +
All the claims coming out are silly. Half of you aren't even under a ton of pressure, and that makes your claims even more nonsensical. Looking at you, Palmar and risk.nuke. Palmar claimed because someone guessed his role. risk.nuke claimed... just because, from what I can see.

He uses the word 'silly' to push Palmar and risk.nuke... hardly putting pressure on if that's what was intended.

Show nested quote +
People have been saying Mattchew has been pushing a lot for Palmar to get the item, so if that's true, and Palmar's telling the truth, then that makes him look a lot worse. Same thing with others strongly supporting going for the item with Palmar. We'll have to look at them all.

Doesn't outright say what he's thinking here.

Show nested quote +
So, Syllo>Shrubbles, but I'd like them both to post more, so I can get a more concrete read.

Fair enough, need them to post more, but again not really taking a stance.

Show nested quote +
I think either of Mattchew or Bluelightz are good targets for my push, and I'd probably go with Bluelightz.

Again, it just seems kind of... weak. Like he's not trying to actually pressure anyone or find any scum.


Looking at JubJub day 1, he seems a little more aggressive and more willing to call people out for doing dumb things.

Show nested quote +
What the hell? How's there no harm in someone asking you for your role? Why would another townie want to know your role, or more importantly need to know your role? If you're a townie, and you're rolefishing, you're just being dumb. You look like scum.



Show nested quote +
Caller, why haven't you actually been pushing for Jackal's lynch if you want to kill him?


etc.

I wouldn't put him at the top of my scum list though because I've agreed with some of the points he actually has made (ie. there was no reason to assume Palmar was the best person to get the item, people shouldn't necessarily have been tossing claims out) AND I think that some people who have played more games with him will be better judges than I can be of his behaviour.


To be fair, everything you just said points toward a scumWiggles - scum are going to say things you agree with...if they didn't, they'd be really easy to find every game wouldn't they?

But fair enough, thank you for your thoughts sir. Keep everything you just said in mind tomorrow.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 03 2012 03:21 GMT
#689
Ya, I hope I don't regret it. -.- So far I'm having buyer's remorse.
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 03 2012 03:25 GMT
#690
He promised to at least try to put something down in-thread before he bit it - he failed to do even that. His ass better be fucking stellar tomorrow or we push him over the edge BEFORE we discuss who we want to incinerate.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 03 2012 03:30 GMT
#693
I'm okay with any of those 4 dying (syllo, Sbrubbles, Wiggles or cascades) - they all have about the same chance of flipping scum as far as I'm concerned (pretty high). Personally I prefer a syllo/Wiggles double-kill...but that's not feasible with current activity.
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