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On April 05 2012 22:15 Bluelightz wrote:
The usage of my power *gasp* I can only say to use or not to use.
For tonight just for everyone im flipping a coin if im going to use my power or not.
Lol. I hope you're dead before tonight.
Why did you want your role confirmed instead of some "random bullshit claim"? What purpose does it have to confirm your role? Why are you obsessed with roleclaiming at all? What purpose does it serve?
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On April 05 2012 22:44 Bluelightz wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2012 22:29 Acrofales wrote:On April 05 2012 22:15 Bluelightz wrote:
The usage of my power *gasp* I can only say to use or not to use.
For tonight just for everyone im flipping a coin if im going to use my power or not. Lol. I hope you're dead before tonight. Why did you want your role confirmed instead of some "random bullshit claim"? What purpose does it have to confirm your role? Why are you obsessed with roleclaiming at all? What purpose does it serve? Then I become the punching bag of the next day because I didnt do ANYTHING townie in d1 and discussions like this could be avoided if you simply just believe that this is what ive got and scum would probably never kill me. If this keeps on persisting, just kill me. Scum will never kill me because im always distracting town, suck it, I bet that you think that losing one PoP is worth it for not having to think of a scummy bastard like me that will be forever useless anymore. So, just lynch me whatever, i dont care about me dieing anymore everyone refuses to believe anything I say, claim whatever. I guess I will use my push on syllo, atleast I can help some way before I die and flip town. Im obssesd with role claiming because you guys keep on being "oh randomly placed bombs in the queue are scummy as fuck and therefore bluelightz is auto-scum" here is what I say it is not me that keeps on bringing this up its YOU. YOU, keep on bringing this up "" oh bluelightz's role"Oh his role is so scummy" ##Push: syllogism
Lol. After this I kinda don't want to kill you anymore. I needed more from you to decide whether you were scum or just useless town. Thanks for confirming useless town.
Next up on my scumometer: Mattchew. He has been awol for like 2 days now, despite posting in the GoT post-game chitterchat. What's up with that? His contributions to this thread have been nothing. He is playing completely differently to GoT mafia (where he was town and had a lot of presence).
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On April 06 2012 00:52 Mattchew wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2012 00:46 Dirkzor wrote:
Weird thing is that you haven't responded to anything in real time. You only respond when people call you out specificly. Why?
You could just skim the thread and then jump into the conversation. Ask whats goind on and then take it from there. But you don't do that. You do nothing. I think you'll notice that I only respond to the recent posts about me. I would be you could find a bunch of posts about me I don't respond to. It seems like someone calls me out for lurking once ever 2 or 3 pages. Why should I ask whats going on when I don't trust anyone. Even from fellow good toys I am going to get a skewed version of whats actually happening, let alone whatever ways bad toys will try to spin it. If you'll notice we are only on day 2. On day 1 I think I started the Palmar to item plan, and then started the VE to save him PoPs. I would say that for not being around much in the thread, those were not bad decisions at all, and are also something. (as opposed to the nothing you say I do). I tried to post my thoughts based off filters (which is not a good way of reading people) but that failed. So dirkzor why haven't you done the good townie thing and offered me an explanation of everything thats happened
Huh? The plan for Palmar was being discussed. You hadn't even pop'd yet when he was almost in the red zone and I said it was an absurdly risky plan and it would either give scum an item or get a townie killed (turns out I was right, but not for the reason I expected).
As for the plan to save Palmar when he was stuck up there, I believe VE came up with that all by himself. I will give you credit for starting the votes on him, but that actually had town consensus, so people were going to vote anyway.
Claiming credit for 2 things you didn't do is pretty damned bad for someone who has lurked the entire game. I would be happy with pulling you off the edge in stead of bluelightz (who at least has the credible excuse that he's incredibly dumb town, rather than scum).
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Okay, it seems like pushes are going on Syllo regardless of whether it's a good idea or not, so one more to get him over the edge (if I counted right), gogo!
I also think that with the limited pulls we have, we should get consensus on who we should try to pull off the bottom. Nominations so far seem to be Bluelightz, Mattchew, MrWiggles and Cascades. That seems like more than enough for the moment, so lets get to voting:
Poll: Who do we try to pull off the bottom?Bluelightz (3) 43% Cascades (2) 29% MrWiggles (1) 14% Mattchew (1) 14% 7 total votes Your vote: Who do we try to pull off the bottom? (Vote): MrWiggles
(Vote): Cascades
(Vote): Bluelightz
(Vote): Mattchew
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On April 06 2012 01:23 Mr. Wiggles wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2012 01:06 Tobon wrote:On April 01 2012 13:43 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
What do you guys think about the item? Partway through day 1, we can decide on one person who we want to get it, and then who we want to push them and pull them back. The thing is, the people who do that have their voting powers nullified, so we need to decide on who would be best to do it to, and keep it organized, so no one "accidentally" goes off the queue. My bold. What an odd turn of phrase, from day 1 before anything happened. On April 02 2012 01:56 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Maybe something like every push/pull has to have an explanation. Don't push someone until you make a case in the thread, and hopefully get a few people to agree with you. Sure isn't following his own advice today, is he? On April 04 2012 22:59 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Has anybody claimed the kill on Palmar or Shrubbles yet? This is important to me. If you shot one of Palmar/Shrubbles, and haven't claimed yet, please do so. I won't be mad. I promise. The already widely commented upon attempt to find the townie with the gun. There is literally nothing else in his filter. It's all empty words and waffling back and forth about Bluelightz, trying to get town-cred but then dissuade us from actually doing anything to kill him. Oh snap, he used the word nullify! Are you serious? I can't tell anymore. If you want another reason for the syllo push, everyone decided to invest heavily into pushing syllo today. There's no guarantee that he'll actually die at the end of the day. Pushing him will help ensure he actually flips, and make sure that the investment of nearly all our day 2 resources doesn't go to waste. Leaving him just on the edge is incredibly dumb. Remember what happened to VE yesterday? Now imagine the same thing in reverse with Syllo, and it doesn't even tell us anything about his alignment, it just wastes yet another day. Next, about the vig thing. Please, please, please someone tell me how knowing that someone on town's side actually shot Shrubbles benefits scum more than town? If town killed him, scum already know that! The point of the vig claiming the shot is so that we know that it was really town who shot him, and not scum. The vig is assumed to be a VT now, so I don't get why I would desperately need that information, especially when I would already know the vig's aim is off, and thus I don't need to worry about him. So make an actual argument for why that is scummy besides saying it is. Please, I'd love you to. I want to murder you with logic. Show nested quote +On April 06 2012 01:15 Tobon wrote:On April 03 2012 12:30 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm okay with any of those 4 dying (syllo, Sbrubbles, Wiggles or cascades) - they all have about the same chance of flipping scum as far as I'm concerned (pretty high). Personally I prefer a syllo/Wiggles double-kill...but that's not feasible with current activity. I'll also note that VE was reading Wiggles as scum. This was his last post related to other people (the ones after were only about his own Pony Powers), before he took the hidden push and burned horribly 30 minutes later. VE was wrong. He had an over-reaction to my question, and when I called him out on it, he thought I was trying to get a rise out of him. He was also someone who didn't actually have any case on me, besides calling me scum over and over. He was tunneling. So are you now.
Just because you claim vigis are one-shot does not make it so. In DFM1 the vigi was 2-shot. Any player who read through DFM1 knows that, and any halfway decent player has read through DFM1, or at least its role list, because repetition has already been proved. Now I'm not saying the 2-shot vigi is in the game, but assuming the vigi is 1-shot is incredibly naïve... or a scum ploy to ferret out the vigilante.
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PS. I ##voted Mattchew above. I figured out the problem with polls now: they're anonymous :S
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I completely missed that post of yours. Okay. You did do something this game. I still think you're scum as that plan had so many ways of backfiring. The way it did is only one of them.
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That should do it,right? That's four pushes since the item
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I am really regretting making that poll. Can people please ##vote in the thread please? So it's not anonymous?
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We can treat our last kill just like a regular lynch and then everybody pulls the top target. It still has to happen before people start going to bed, so ##vote fast.
So far I have
Mattchew: Acrofales
Bluelightz: Layabout (counting your post as a vote)
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On April 06 2012 05:04 Cephiro wrote:
Syllo has been moved in a way or another, as he should be at position #25 by my calculations. (Which is 1 over the line).
However, it is possible that he has either copied an ability that enables him to move (Like VE's horsie), or one that makes PoP's less effective on him (Fat Boy Toy from DF1?), or he has gained the teleportation device, or he has been pulled back by the hidden PoP by scum. I would personally like to push syllo just to try and ensure his death.
I agree that Syllo should be on #25, but Ace nor Kurumi have updated the thread with the last pops yet, so who knows.
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On April 06 2012 04:20 Acrofales wrote:
We can treat our last kill just like a regular lynch and then everybody pulls the top target. It still has to happen before people start going to bed, so ##vote fast.
So far I have
Mattchew: Acrofales
Bluelightz: Layabout (counting your post as a vote)
UPDATE:
Mattchew: Acrofales
Bluelightz: Layabout, risk.nuke, Nemesis
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@layabout: you're going to have to be a bit clearer about what you mean. If bluelightz fucks us over by not saying where the bombs are next time, we're screwed, aren't we (assuming he's even town and telling the truth this time around).
As it stands, I think bluelightz's posting (no metagame argument, because I have none with him) is more indicative of a horrible townie than scum. However, as I also said earlier, bad town play is good for scum, so a good way for scum to blend in is to just act like a horrible townie. No clue if bluelightz plays like that. I don't think we lose much by lynching him if he's town and if he's scum we are 1 scum closer to victory. My vote is still on Mattchew, but am not opposed to just throwing bluelightz off the cliff either.
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On April 06 2012 05:33 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2012 04:20 Acrofales wrote:
We can treat our last kill just like a regular lynch and then everybody pulls the top target. It still has to happen before people start going to bed, so ##vote fast.
So far I have
Mattchew: Acrofales
Bluelightz: Layabout (counting your post as a vote) UPDATE: Mattchew: Acrofales Bluelightz: Layabout, risk.nuke, Nemesis
UPDATE 2:
Mattchew: Acrofales
Bluelightz: Layabout, risk.nuke, Nemesis, Tobon
MrWiggles: Snarfs
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On April 06 2012 05:43 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2012 05:33 Acrofales wrote:On April 06 2012 04:20 Acrofales wrote:
We can treat our last kill just like a regular lynch and then everybody pulls the top target. It still has to happen before people start going to bed, so ##vote fast.
So far I have
Mattchew: Acrofales
Bluelightz: Layabout (counting your post as a vote) UPDATE: Mattchew: Acrofales Bluelightz: Layabout, risk.nuke, Nemesis UPDATE 2: Mattchew: Acrofales Bluelightz: Layabout, risk.nuke, Nemesis, Tobon MrWiggles: Snarfs
UPDATE 3:
Mattchew: Acrofales, Cephiro
Bluelightz: Layabout, risk.nuke, Nemesis, Tobon
MrWiggles: Snarfs
I am also going to take this opportunity to mention that bedtime is in about an hour, at which time I will use my pull on whoever is leading the votecount. I am sorry if this means USA westcoast people didn't get a say or so, but I am not waiting up till 5 AM to use my pull.
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Okay, with MrZentor's push, Syllo should not only be off the conveyor belt, but squashed to a bloody pulp on the ground. I guess it's refunded in that case, like if you push someone nullified?
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Ok, I guess that settles it. We still have the following pulls:
Mr.Wiggles
Dirkzor
Mattchew
Cephiro (you can still pop right?)
Tobon
syllogism (don't think we can count on his pops)
Acrofales
This should be enough to pull bluelightz off the edge, barring very weird shit happening.
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EBWOP: forgot to remove Tobon from the list.
So 5 pulls on Bluelightz, plus the double-pull that already happened and risk.nuke is 8 pulls. It'll be close.
By the way, what is up with Layabout's PoPs:
On April 06 2012 01:47 layabout wrote:
##pull Bluelightz
##push Mattchew
.... lots of useless bla bla bla....
##pull bluelightz
If layabout's pull counts that's 9 pulls on bluelightz, but WHY did he push Mattchew and then 1 post later whine that someone should push Syllo?!
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EBWODP bah, i put my own pull in the quoted bit :/
##pull bluelightz
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