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On April 03 2012 01:42 Ace wrote:
Yeeeah...so I'm simultaneously disturbed and excited about this picture. I don't know why.
Okay, Bluelightz - by your estimation, the people who voted for you (because you're the "easy" target) are the most suspicious?
What do you think about players like wherebugsgo and myself, players who voted for you for actual reasons and are actually interested in watching you burn?
What do you think about Palmar's play so far? Perhaps you could pull him one step closer to the item?
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Wait, what are you assuming about risk.nuke Tobon? What do you mean "risk.nuke's light"? He never ever described his power, what it would look like in-thread or what it would do...why would you "presume" that the image has anything to do with risk.nuke at all?
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Bugs Palmar. Tell me why we shouldn't kill Bugs instead of Wiggles.
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Actually I want to see the resolution...your push will resolve the whole "Acro is a double-wide" theory I think.
But no, I'm out of PoP today.
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Okay, we can now safely assume that Acro is NOT double-wide and that Nemesis is some kind of super strong double-pushing toy.
FWEEEEEAKYYYY
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Dude let's just kill Wiggles (4 pushes) and get Palmar the item and back (2 pulls, 4 pushes)
D1 successful.
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On April 03 2012 03:13 Bill Murray wrote:
If Palmar uses his ability, I'm pushing Cephiro
just sayin'
If you mean that to be a threat, I'd probably "pull" him if I were you. Just sayin.
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On April 03 2012 03:47 layabout wrote:@cephiro The thing is that Palmar has given us next to nothing to indicate one alignment over the other and killing him because you "do not trust him" is not justifiable. I am not suggesting we lynch wiggles, but i would like to know why VE and Palmar have suggested that. what has cascades done to make you want to lynch him? Nemesis: Do you really think that this was anything other than a throwaway Pop that does nothing to help town? + Show Spoiler +On April 02 2012 12:01 Nemesis wrote:Time to actually give out my scumreads so far: Right now I'm looking at Tobon. First thing he does is proposing the secondary voting system. While that by itself is not really scummy even though I disagree with it, his next posts I find are rather bad. Show nested quote +On April 01 2012 23:45 Tobon wrote:On April 01 2012 19:50 Palmar wrote:
just remember to reverse your action because apparently I'm some weird toy that gets pulled when pushed, and pushed while pulled. Nothing is for sure here, but in DFM1, this was the power of the evil Mirror Toy, who could also reverse ends of the entire queue once per game. So (a) be aware that the queue flipping power probably exists, and also (b) I'd be a a bit suspicious of Palmar, although I doubt Ace would make it so easy for us by repeating scum roles. Note how he takes an extremely neutral stance here. He finds Palmar suspicious for his role which is similar to a role in the previous game, but then he adds that it is unlikely that Ace would give scum the same roles. This sounds to me like a scum trying to put suspicion onto someone while avoiding responsibility for it. Show nested quote +On April 02 2012 02:54 Tobon wrote:
So cascade's pull happened. Palmar's role is confirmed, although his alignment is still unknown. Again he stresses how we don't know Palmar's alignment. ##Push: TobonAlso, it's been almost 24 hours and risk.nuke and Sbrubbles have not posted at all. :/ If they don't post anytime soon, I'm all for lynching them too. Here he completely misrepresents wiggles to achieve _______ + Show Spoiler +On April 02 2012 12:15 Nemesis wrote:Show nested quote +On April 01 2012 13:43 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Well, let's get this started. I think we should try our best not to wind each other up this game.
Let's try not to throw our pushes and pulls around too liberally, or at least not anymore than we have to if we can. That means that we don't end up wasting a whole bunch of pushes and pulls that have the net effect of cancelling each other out because people disagree.
Though it's tempting, I don't think we should kill more than a couple people each day, barring anyone basically claiming scum. The last game ended with a whole bunch of people dying on day 2, so based on the probability of queue altering abilities, we should probably pull townie looking people, or people we don't want to die forward a little. Maybe keep them towards the middle of the queue, in case there's some kind of queue flipper.
What do you guys think about the item? Partway through day 1, we can decide on one person who we want to get it, and then who we want to push them and pull them back. The thing is, the people who do that have their voting powers nullified, so we need to decide on who would be best to do it to, and keep it organized, so no one "accidentally" goes off the queue.
I'm going to bed now. Feel free to post a lot while I'm sleeping. Don't toy with me. In here, you suggest taking the item. Show nested quote +On April 02 2012 08:18 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
VE, BM, why do you think Palmar is a good candidate for getting the item? He hasn't done anything to show that he's town this game, and his only post is asking for the item. Considering many of the items can be good for scum as well as town, why do you want to pull him to the item with no reassurance that he's town? Why are you so quick to trust him? While when people were pushing Palmar to take the item, you are against it? Would you rather someone else took the item then? What kind of person are you looking for to take the item then? People just chose palmar because he was the closest to it(so we waste less PoP) and he volunteered. Anyways I'm off for now, nighty night.
Wiggles is a smart guy. Like, super smart. He knows how voting works, and Bugs was insisting that it took 13 pushes to kill Bluelightz at the beginning of his push. A town Wiggles would have corrected Bugs I think, immediately. I only realized it later, but Wiggles is much smarter than me.
Combined with the fact that his first bit of advice from playing in the original DFM was "let's try not to anger each other" when it's appeared (at least to me) that he's been trying to get a rise out of me for most of his later posting.
That's my reasoning for wanting to off Wiggles.
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Plus Wiggles auto-rolls scum bro.
<3
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I'm tentatively for a WBG lynch, but can do nothing to support it syllo. So you know...just fyi.
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Syllo, are you factoring in the capability for a well-manipulated town to be mass-murdered? It seems to me that in circumstances like that, having a higher DT count would help balance against that sort of manipulation.
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I mean, unless someone counterclaims the red light, risk.nuke is mod-confirmed.
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On April 03 2012 04:01 syllogism wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2012 03:58 VisceraEyes wrote:
Syllo, are you factoring in the capability for a well-manipulated town to be mass-murdered? It seems to me that in circumstances like that, having a higher DT count would help balance against that sort of manipulation. But mafia only has one standard KP, so "confirming" several players at once on day 1 seems ridiculously powerful
Having one "standard" KP in a game like this itself is ridiculously powerful syllo, pull the other one.
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On April 03 2012 04:03 layabout wrote:
But VE, after WBG made that mistake both you and i corrected it before wiggles even posted. Why would he point it out again?
What I'm saying is that he would have corrected it before we did...he had posted, and he reads the thread.
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You're logic is based solely behind what's balanced for the scum team, you realize this right? Your view seems skewed toward considering the option that favors the scum-team.
The role isn't unreasonable at all, considering the claims that have already been made. What about risk.nuke, he has the capability to confirm a large amount of people too. So is his power to powerful to exist?
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Thank you for your time Syllo!
Let's lynch BM!
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*by Let's, obviously I mean "You guys".
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Wait a tick....I do believe that two such roles could exist in this game.
Nevermind guys, false alarm.
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Well, technically I didn't even correct him when you said I did - I didn't see that you had corrected him and corrected him much later than that.
I was referring to the number of pulls to pull Blue off the back of the board...not correcting the number of pushes to get him into the zone in that post.
But no, you're not missing anything there. The fact that Bugs didn't respond to your correction and Wiggles didn't even notice it is just as damning in my opinion.
But it doesn't matter ultimately because I've used my PoP's this cycle. I'm just putting that out there. And this is only part of my reasoning anyway - the other part is his contradictory behavior.
If you don't agree laya it's cool - if I'm right, he'll continue to exhibit other suspicious behavior.
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