Death Factory Mafia 2 - Page 2

VisceraEyes

United States21170 Posts

April 01 2012 23:29 GMT

#249

There's no reassurance that anyone is town, Wiggles. I'm interested to see what he does with the item, as that will be more of an indicator of his alignment than discussing whether or not he's worthy of the item.

I don't "trust" Palmar, but I know he's smart/experienced enough to know what to do and what not to do with the item if he's town, so I "trust" that I'll be able to gauge his alignment based on how he acts with it.

What do you suggest we do Wiggles? Wait for a confirmed town before we get the item? So do you suggest we kill BM to test his alignment to confirm myself and Snarfs so that one of us can get it? Does that not seem like a horrifying waste of PoPs to you?

VisceraEyes

United States21170 Posts

April 01 2012 23:56 GMT

#251

No thanks, I'm good. Palmar's just about there, I'd rather we get him across the finish instead.

VisceraEyes

United States21170 Posts

April 02 2012 00:15 GMT

#254

Oh Wiggles, you're a pleasure bro. ^^

I'm not acting "incredibly defensive", I'm trying get things done. Palmar volunteered to get the item, I'm okay with him getting the item, I made a move. If anything I'm being very proactive and decisive.

If you want to try and cast my decisions in a scummy light, you're going to do a little more than twisting my words around to sound scummier than they are. From your post I assumed you wanted a confirmed townie to have the item - clearly I was mistaken. But when you say things like "we have no assurances" and "how do you know he can be trusted" it seems like you want something concrete, which means "confirmed townie".

I mean, feel free to PoP me if you really want me dead Wiggles...but you doing so after only one "shady" post seems pretty hypocritical to me sir.

VisceraEyes

United States21170 Posts

April 02 2012 00:18 GMT

#255

On April 02 2012 09:05 prplhz wrote:

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How about Tobon? Nothing in his filter even though he calls out for scum hunting, most of it is just pointing out random stuff and summarizing the thread. I'm not decided yet but he's looking pretty bad.

Why are you asking about those three specifically?

I have no idea why we are sending Palmar for that item. It's not really that powerful and we can still determine his alignment without him getting it (well, it wouldn't hurt if he would post a little more). wherebugsgo already pointed out potential dangers, scum could have a hidden PoP role, like a PoP Floridian Toy, and then they could pull (push) Palmar over the edge when he gets the item. killing one of the best town players.

This is really risky and I'm totally against it and I think people should have thought more carefully about this before going through with it, and then they should have concluded that it wasn't worth it at all.

"...and then they should have concluded that it wasn't worth it at all"

Like, what does that even mean? You guys are boring me with all this walking on broken glass bullshit.

Whatever, I'll just vote with town and let you guys PoP me to the edge for "trying to shirk responsibility for my actions" or something stupid.

Enact whatever retarded "alternative voting system" you want. I won't be participating, but promise to vote for whoever you Jubs want to vote for.

VisceraEyes

United States21170 Posts

April 02 2012 00:35 GMT

#258

Watch me?! Watch me watch you Bugs! I SEE YOU!!!

What do you think sir? I'd like your thoughts on Syllogism, layabout and MrWiggles sir. WATCH ME AWAIT YOUR RESPONSE!!!

VisceraEyes

United States21170 Posts

April 02 2012 01:45 GMT

#263

I don't know if I want to save Palmar yet...he hasn't really done much in the way of scumhunting and he's certainly not contributing in any other way. I'm actually cool with him being where he's at if he intends to keep up this quality of play. ^^

VisceraEyes

United States21170 Posts

April 02 2012 01:56 GMT

#264

Zentor, you should do something rather than pretend to be angry about the actions of others.

So do you think that the people who pulled Palmar are scum? Does you voicing your frustration help you find scum? Does it help me? Does it help town?

Now, if Palmar is town, he'll use the item to help town. If he's not, then he'll use it to hurt town. Lucky for us, we get to be part of it either way because we know he got something and we have control over whether he lives or dies.

And, with all this naysaying between Bugs and the Jubs, chances are Palmar will be back to contribute something before anyone lets him have the item, and he's only ONE push deep into the red-zone in the meantime. How about you just chill out and look for scum rather than get worked up over my actions? It'll be a blast, we can kill the scums TOGETHER!

VisceraEyes

United States21170 Posts

April 02 2012 02:36 GMT

#267

role=/=alignment

come on bill

VisceraEyes

United States21170 Posts

April 02 2012 02:40 GMT

#268

On April 02 2012 11:07 Bill Murray wrote:
VE I understand what you're doing, but everyone has a role this game
Me creating myself as a townie? Oh well, I'm looking to scumhunt anyways. Creating 2 town in the process if I get mislynched or killed is gravy on the potatoes.

Got any leads you want to discuss rather than try and alter my playstyle? How do you feel about a Bluelightz lynch? Who else is pinging the ol' scumdar?

VisceraEyes

United States21170 Posts

April 02 2012 03:53 GMT

#276

Would 8 pushes be sufficient to put Bluelightz in the incineration zone given normal circumstances?

VisceraEyes

United States21170 Posts

April 02 2012 04:03 GMT

#278

VisceraEyes

United States21170 Posts

April 02 2012 04:04 GMT

#279

So Bugs is confirmed scum, maybe Wiggles.

Anyone wanna check my math?

VisceraEyes

United States21170 Posts

April 02 2012 04:09 GMT

#280

On April 02 2012 12:25 Tobon wrote:
Hey! I've been off at Emerald City Comic-Con for the day, will read through and respond more in a bit. Thought I'd point out, though, that Nemesis's push of me didn't have the effect you'd expect. I skipped by spot 11. Which maybe makes Acrofales the double-wide big toy?

Or Nemisis is a super-strong double-pushing toy. Very interesting. VERY.

VisceraEyes

United States21170 Posts

April 02 2012 04:21 GMT

#284

I don't know man, you're being all like careful and diplomatic and shit. Being reasonable is a scumtell with you Bugs. You haven't called me or Palmar scum or retarded once yet. And to top it off, you mistakenly "thought" that it takes 15 pushes to lynch Blue.

Something's going on with you, I'm just sayin. I'M JUST SAYING GUY

VisceraEyes

United States21170 Posts

April 02 2012 04:22 GMT

#285

And the fact that Wiggles didn't correct you makes me think that he's scum with you. It's a hunch. A HUNCH SIR

VisceraEyes

United States21170 Posts

April 02 2012 04:30 GMT

#286

Hold on a second.

##Push: Bluelightz

VisceraEyes

United States21170 Posts

April 02 2012 04:55 GMT

#290

I mean, it's just a feeling. I like a Bluelightz lynch obviously, and this flip won't tell me anything about your alignment. I don't expect you to respond or anything because it's not even a case - I'm just saying. Prove me wrong guy.

Wiggles, I don't know what you're doing, but your one piece of advice from last game was "let's make a conscious effort to not wind people up this game" and you seem to be attempting to wind me up. It's contradictory man, and I don't like it.

And to all you lurkers out there...
+ Show Spoiler [I got somethin for ya] +

VisceraEyes

United States21170 Posts

April 02 2012 05:08 GMT

#293

Well, I expect Bugs to be a good enough player to know how the voting works...earlier when we were discussing Blue I just kinda assumed he was right when he counted the pushes we required but when I realized that we only need 8 to put him in the incineration zone, it made me wonder what the oversight was on Bugs' part. I pushed Blue early because A) while there's been some discussion about it, no one has stepped up to the plate and actually pushed the guy, and B) because I wanted to see if Bugs knew something I didn't about the number of votes it's going to take to get Blue into the zone.