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Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
April 02 2012 21:20 GMT
#509
Eh... WBG if it works you just gave Palmar the item... smart?
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
April 02 2012 21:21 GMT
#510
god dammit... Now I have to saty up a while longer atleast until this is solved =)
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
April 02 2012 21:29 GMT
#518
On April 03 2012 06:25 Acrofales wrote:
WBG: you're complaining about people wasting PoPs, but don't even read the thread properly?! You just wasted a pull. In fact, the very pull that made me decide he was speaking the truth:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2012 02:51 Snarfs wrote:
I agree that the Palmar situation needs to be dealt with and sometime before he needs to disappear being in a European time zone.

##Pull Palmar

Whoever does the last pull needs to make sure that they make it clear that they're going to pull well before they make the pull so that we don't risk two people pulling at the same time and "accidentally" killing Palmar. Ideally we have two people, one who can pull and one who can push for safety. Also, refresh the actions in a new window before pulling. No excusing any "accidents" here.

Also, with risk claiming it isn't his ability, it's quite frustrating to see that Tobon wasted his push as well (though by chance it did verify some weird behaviour around Acro/Nemesis). This is the kind of PoP that I was trying to set a precedent for punishing by pushing cascades.


And then, 8 pages later, you come in and just throw away your pull. Derp much?

Show nested quote +
On April 03 2012 06:19 wherebugsgo wrote:
I'll do it.

##pull Palmar



No you derp much.

Palmar started at 18. He is now at 23. 5 pulls have been made to Palmar meaning everyone have been successfull. WBG's pull would have been the 6th. Im now waiting for the mod to answer Tobons question before making my judgement here
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
April 02 2012 21:34 GMT
#524
Acro: Snarfs pull was before Palmar claimed to be Nullified so his Pull was a normal one.

Well Palmar wasn't lying then. If any town nullified him claim please.
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
April 03 2012 03:20 GMT
#688
Just woke up.. anything i need to know? (reading now..)

I see you saved Palmar =)
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
April 03 2012 03:25 GMT
#691
hate when that happens... So Sbrubbels came back... nice touch.
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
April 03 2012 03:31 GMT
#694
I'll most likely pull syllo still reading and need 5 more pages.

about the pushes I don't know
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
April 03 2012 03:43 GMT
#698
Okay I know these PoP doens't affect much but it will show my stance never the less.

##Pull Syllogism
##Push Cascades


I wrote about Syllo earlier and why I tihnk he is scum

Cascades is more like "Town wants him dead and I can't really find a reason to oppose". If this was a lynch vote I would vote Cascades if I couldn't get Syllo to hang.
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
April 03 2012 03:51 GMT
#699
Hmm.. There really wasn't a reason for me to wake up in the middle of the night was there?! Why did day 1 end up with a no-flip?!? People wasted their PoP's left and right thats why! =(

did you ever figure out why Palmar moved 3 spots with nemesis' pull? I never saw it...
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
April 03 2012 03:55 GMT
#702
Impressed! Care to explain further on how you moved yourself? Is that part of your role? I'm still trying to find it in the thread.
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
April 03 2012 04:04 GMT
#704
Oh well.. Back to bed. Tomorrow we kill someone okay?
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
April 03 2012 21:50 GMT
#781
On April 04 2012 06:30 Tobon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2012 06:20 layabout wrote:
On April 04 2012 06:17 Tobon wrote:
@layabout: while we are asking questions, why should we not conclude that your claimed inability to use PoPs is actually a lie to cover for being able to do hidden pushes, like the one that killed VE?

because concluding that would be fucking dumb


Layabout confirmed town. ;-)

I'm thinking syllogism, Bluelightz, Mr.Zentor for lynching, in that order.


Hmm... somehow I like this list. Syllo and Zentor at least. I'm not sure about BL. He seems more confident this game then he did the last time I saw him as scum where he basicly just shut up. But he haven't really dont anything besides his crazy claim.
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
April 03 2012 22:00 GMT
#783
We should have killed palmar. Something in th back of my mind is telling me that he is scum this game. Mostly due to his lack of interest and the role he have claimed (which was scum last game. And yes I know that doesn't mean anything)

"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
April 04 2012 10:09 GMT
#898
I think Cephiro's plan suck. Any plan we made yesterday was fucked and it will be the same today. (and the item is not even in the equation as the item suck. Its like a shiny objects that people really can't wait to dig up but it always turn out just be the opener from a soda can.)

I say push/pull those we find scummy and lets deal with it the direct way.

I don't think the fact that BL used his ability makes him confirmed scum. It just means he plays differently then you would. I would never have used it but I can also see a town BL use it. I'll wait with my PoP's so far but I'll help with the BL pulling later if needed.

I would like people to push Syllo. The fact that scum killed Palmar/Sbrubbles (or one of them) and not syllo is disturbing. Palmar had done shit all so killing him over Syllo makes no sense. I'm assuming Sbrubbles was a town hit becase the only reason I see scum killing Sbrubbles is if Syllo is indeed town. Risk's claim was/i believable even when poorly executed by him.

People I also want to look at today are Zentor and Mattchew.

Zentor have made 1 post after his comeback and that post sucked. I'll sum it it:
- Recap of day 1 - Why? We all read it?
- Don't waste PoP's today - We said that yesterday and people (you included) still did that.
- Ceph, Sbrubbles and syllo = Atleast 1 scum, most likely Syllo. - So you agree with town?
- Tobon looks suspicious. - You said you would make a case? Waiting...
- Another lame excuse for not being able to post yesterday. - I hate people who excuse their absence.

Mattchew is just a oneliner machine who follows whatever crazy plan anyone cooks up to appear to be helping town.
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
April 04 2012 21:07 GMT
#1042
Okay... this is just insane guys. You spend most of the day arguing about "the plan" and then you can't even do it right.

I still think its a dumb plan because the only reason I can see to push Cephiro instead of syllo is the item and I don't want the item. Its irrelevant. Now that everyone else have gone and joined the plan I'll push cephiro if needed after the update.

About the pulls. After BM super duper stupid PoP's and supposed find of a "scum slip" he looks even worse then he did after day 1. And I still don't understand what he is posting. I just don't really think he is scum? I don't know. Not a good target anyway.

I won't mind seeing BL or mattchew dead. So pulling them is also fine. But remember we still have more then 24 hours to go and we won't get a flip before nightpost anyway. So no reason to eagerly throw PoP's left and right.

I dont understand however how Cephiros ability can be on a timer?!

"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
April 04 2012 21:12 GMT
#1043
Woah... I totally forgot about Zentor. Lets fucking kill him!

"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
April 04 2012 22:12 GMT
#1049
On April 05 2012 07:08 Cephiro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2012 06:07 Dirkzor wrote:
I dont understand however how Cephiros ability can be on a timer?!


Why not? If you check Palmars reverse-ability, it was on a timer as well. In fact, if my ability wasn't on a timer it would be overpowered as hell.

I hope there are lots of you around to carry this plan to the end, but the lack of speech and the mod is worrying me. >.>


Then its not really on a timer. There are just certain time where you can not use it. I'm guessing 3 hours like Palmar which means we still have plente of time. I was waiting for Ace/Kurumi to update but i have to sleep soon. We'll see what happens...

"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
April 04 2012 22:14 GMT
#1051
Wiggles: I have thought about the nightkills how they don't really make sense from a Scum perspective unless syllo/Cephiro is town. But I just don't think we can go on without seeing them flip. Syllo have NOT played pro-town so far and thus I would want him dead anyway.

I'm not so sure BL is scum. I don't know. Thats why I want to kill zentor instead.
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
April 04 2012 22:22 GMT
#1058
WTF!??!?! Zentor... only about 50% of you are reading the thread...

I still want you dead btw.

I now no longer want BL dead. (well... if he dies no biggie )
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
April 04 2012 22:49 GMT
#1070
On April 05 2012 07:43 layabout wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2012 07:28 wherebugsgo wrote:
On April 03 2012 00:40 Bluelightz wrote:
Also, I seem to have misunderstood my role PM, so, 1 of 3 positions that will. Be announced with the day post will be booby trapped, the positions are randomized.


The lie is here.

I see no reason for anyone as town to ever use this role. If I got this role myself I would not use it unless I was scum.

As scum sometimes it's easier to claim your actual role instead of faking it under pressure, which could potentially explain why he would claim it as scum. Who knows at any rate; Bluelightz has long enough played against a town wincon this game that he should die.

At this point I have no clue why layabout or wiggles are defending bluelightz, but the change of heart in layabout particularly intrigues me.

Because i honestly believe that Bluelightz might do this as town. I am concerned that some people are PoPing him because his actions are terrible not because they think he is scum. After yesterday it should be clear how important discussion and planning are. I am concerned that Bluelightz received so many PoP's in a short amount of time before there had been time for a proper discussion. It seems like you had all decided what to do before i even opened the thread and before Bluelightz could defend himself.


I kinda agree with Layabout here. BL is able to do crazy things. Also as town. I've played with him a few times and I've not seen great town play from him yet (No offence). The same goes for BM. What he pulled off was weird but it doesn't necesarily make him scummy in my eyes.

We still have over 24h and I'm slightly pissed that people PoP'ed anyone only a few hours into the day.
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
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