On March 27 2012 07:43 VisceraEyes wrote:
Perhaps. Perhaps not. I noticed that you didn't give an opinion one way or the other C_C, is there a reason you don't want to commit to a stance?

like you would make a stance 2 posts in a game, VE?

johnnywup

United States3858 Posts

March 26 2012 22:53 GMT

#115

Just seems weird when there's no actual content to work with to make a judgement other than a tone of writing.

Not defending anyone, more of asking why he would expect anyone to take a stance so early.

johnnywup

United States3858 Posts

March 27 2012 02:38 GMT

#140

I think if there's people obviously posting just to meet the minimum requirements or answer questions and don't further the discussion at all then they are prime candidates for lynching...but if what we find through discussion is more concrete than lynching because of lurking, we should go for that. I prefer lynching based on facts rather than lurking, unless the lurking is obviously to avoid taking a stance or if the lurker just votes to lynch someone without explanations, or stuff that can be read as scum.

As of now nobody is really acting scummy (in my eyes), but there are still quite a few people who haven't posted yet, so it's possible nobody is scum here, albeit it unlikely. cccalf, sirensis, blazinghand haven't posted and zelblade + froggynoddy haven't posted anything meaningful.

johnnywup

United States3858 Posts

March 27 2012 04:26 GMT

#168

wtf blazinghand?

On March 27 2012 12:39 Blazinghand wrote:
It seems to me that your statements are unnecessarily aggressive and are hurting the town atmosphere. Your removal will help the town greatly and improve our discourse.

You're the one being agressive, voting on someone with no facts to backup your vote. And the "Your removal will help the town greatly and improve our discourse" just is a retarded statement. First of all, discourse? You want discourse to improve? That doesn't make sense if you are town. And why would his removal help the town unless you're absolutely certain he's mafia, which you aren't.

On March 27 2012 13:01 Blazinghand wrote:
1) then be clear about it. I don't like having to go after someone and then him saying "well, by 'town' i didn't mean 'the town' but i meant 'townies'"-- communicate precisely whenever possible.

Then why did you go after him in the first place?

On March 27 2012 13:01 Blazinghand wrote:
Cyber cheese can go eat a carrot. he's not the relevant party here-- you are. mr. scum.

So nobody can have opinions but you? That's stupid. You're saying that only you and the person you accuse are relevant in that exchange? How about all of the town? You're trying to lynch on behalf of the town, why don't we matter?

On March 27 2012 13:01 Blazinghand wrote:
Then, when the pressure was on, he blinked. he felt a need to defend himself, because he is scum.

no comment, thats just stupid logic

I don't think you're mafia, blazing, because no mafia would be so stupid to post something so stupid. At least I think. Utterly garbage posting so far.

johnnywup

United States3858 Posts

March 27 2012 05:07 GMT

#171

i'm absolutely flattered <3

On March 27 2012 14:03 Blazinghand wrote:
bad logic, anti-town to be bad logic. This kind of thinking hurts town. If you plan on using this sort of reasoning going forwards, you are either scum or worthless town.

irony?

and hows it anti-town to have bad logic? it just means you're unhelpful, that doesn't mean you're anti-town.. And my logic is perfectly sound thank you.

One thing that really sets me off about you is your willingness to shift your vote to me after any pressure at all. You didn't have a case on Nemesis and you don't have a case on me.

johnnywup

United States3858 Posts

March 27 2012 06:08 GMT

#181

aren't you full of yourself blazinghand? everythings gotta be about you huh?

johnnywup

United States3858 Posts

March 27 2012 06:44 GMT

#194

just because i don't have as many posts doesn't mean I'm scum, blazing. My posts are more thought out. Your posts are yelling at anyone who directs a post at you. I don't find that particularly town-like.

##vote Blazinghand

johnnywup

United States3858 Posts

March 27 2012 07:01 GMT

#198

I never tried to start a wagon on you. I pointed out that your posts are stupid. You said "look at his filter, you can see he's scum!". That's general. I didn't know if you meant content or size, or what.

On March 27 2012 15:20 Blazinghand wrote:
the idea that someone would play poorly meaning they're not scum is utterly preposterous and you know it. If you use bad logic like that in arguments, you create a scenario that scum can manipulate to its advantage. if you are unhelpful, you are anti-town. you can be anti-town by being a worthless or actively bad townie. I'm astonished I have to explain this to you. Bad town play hurts the town. that's you. you're hurting us. stop it. ow. ow.

Show nested quote +

you didn't pressure me, you defended me, and you did so in a sloppy, bad fashion. you deserve my vote, and i see no reason to shift it off you. you have failed to adequately address my principle cliam.

bold 1: so people can't be bad?
bold 2: You're playing bad. You're calling out people for absolutely 0 reason. Bad arguments=scum right? Look in the mirror, buddy.
bold 3: i never defended you. I pointed out your posts were bad and I neither attacked your nor defended you at that point. I just pointed things out. But you got defensive and started attacking me. I don't understand your logic here.

On March 27 2012 15:23 Blazinghand wrote:
Of course, the secret is that JW isn't actually an actively bad townie, and he won't stop being bad. he's scum and should be lynched.

for what reason would i be scum rather than a bad townie? just because?

On March 27 2012 15:34 Blazinghand wrote:

A) Johnnywup's initial "pressure" on me was actually rather half-assed and non-comittal. I found his statement that "scum wouldn't play this bad" (or equivalent) to be an anti-town statement.

Anybody who examines his filter can look and see that there is something amiss. this is now how a town player would play.

bold 1: me thinking you're bad makes me anti town? And I didn't intend to commit, I merely pointed out why what you said is stupid, like I've said.
bold 2: please, please tell me blazing, how would a town player play? How should I play mafia, tell me! I don't understand the needless attacking of me.

Please help me understand why I'm scum, blazing. I really do want to know.

johnnywup

United States3858 Posts

March 27 2012 07:21 GMT

#201

Alright, still learning when and when not to respond to "pressures" thanks for tip ^^

johnnywup

United States3858 Posts

March 27 2012 08:00 GMT

#215

ET: voting in the regular thread worked fine in c9++ :O

thank you for that. BH was just pissing me off. In reality I don't really have any evidence that shows him to be scummy.

##unvote BlazingHand

I don't know how to give a strong argument and I know that. It's a weak suit of mine. I'll work on that but I'm not scum because of it.
And I don't know why you keep saying "JW is so scummy! lynch lynch lynch!!!" and thats the essence of what you're saying.. And I don't have to give you a long response to a long post. Your long post doesn't say much, really. So neither does my response have to.
(Btw I was voting because of things I already said, not just things i said in the post that I voted in)

ET is defending BH , noted.