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On April 01 2012 02:19 EchelonTee wrote:
....wat? you just did a wad of really bad point-by-point-analysis on.... everyone? ??? just quoting a dude, saying one or two things bout them, then assigning them an arbitrary number is NOT a good post at all lol. this reminds me of my first game as scum, where I lurked hard, everyone called me out, then I made a giagantic fake ass post, everyone swallowed up and town lost. PBPA analysis lacks logic; you have to actually comment more in depth on the quotes you are drawing from, which you utterly fail to do. and once again another dood not commenting on cccalf.
and u never answered for your D1 actions. that was before your "switch" or w.e so you can't say that you were acting before. essentially you want town to believe that you acted wildly scummy for two days, yet SOMEHOW u are not scum, as shown by your big fat non-useful post. just... what??? Just because you can write a big post doesn't mean you're analysis is either 1. right 2. from a town player
meh I thought you were going to bust out a decent case on someone or even roleclaim, but this is just really really incoherant. I really really reallllllly don't want either MrZ or cccalf alive at LYLO, so scummy it hurts.
I said in my post that I was lazy day one and just sheeped VE. The thing is that I put in an early post that I was going to do this. I wasn't a mafia who overreacted to voting and went crazy.
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Yes, quotes do make a case. But they are only a small part, the edvidence. What really matters is how you use these pieces of edvidence, detaling your thought processes on why these pieces of evidence show scummy behaviour. Your cases are basically 90% evidence, and 10% thoughts. Quotes are useless when you dont use them to push your views on why things are scummy.
AND I SERIOUSLY STILL DONT SEE HOW MAKING A TOWN ALIGNED BANDWAGON WITHOUT YOU ACTUALLY FLIPPING IS GOING TO HELP US
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And "I was lazy day 1 and sheeped VE day 1" isnt going to cut it. Cant you at least properly respond to the cases presented earlier in the thread?
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Calm down.
I used the quotes to push my views on why things are or aren't scummy.
It's going to allow us to compare the bandwagons and to find scum.
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On April 01 2012 02:26 zelblade wrote:
Yes, quotes do make a case. But they are only a small part, the edvidence. What really matters is how you use these pieces of edvidence, detaling your thought processes on why these pieces of evidence show scummy behaviour. Your cases are basically 90% evidence, and 10% thoughts. Quotes are useless when you dont use them to push your views on why things are scummy.
AND I SERIOUSLY STILL DONT SEE HOW MAKING A TOWN ALIGNED BANDWAGON WITHOUT YOU ACTUALLY FLIPPING IS GOING TO HELP US
EBWOP: When I say town aligned bandwagon I mean wagon on a townie in case that wasnt clear. Excuse my poor english thanks.
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Ok lol, if you are really town mrzentor, you have pretty much screwed us over.
Do you realize how anti-town your actions have been?
1. You have pretty much wasted the entire day talking about you.
2. You have caused chaos throughout the thread.
3. A possible mislynch on yourself.
4. Left us with pretty much no time to actually discuss your stupid story
Your analysis is just bad. The quotes are there for you to make a point to prove that "someone is scum or town." Tell me in your example of quotes against me, how does my reasoning for voting CC make me scum, Also how does me saying I'm shooting VE night 1 BEFORE the game has started make me scum, how does me pointing out that you were acting differently this game make me scum, etc. You pretty much took random quotes and put random comments and put random numbers on how "scummy" they are.
Also, is that seriously the best you have? I'm scum because I wanted to make sure that someone I think is scum gets lynched?
Also, you still haven't addressed the case against you. Saying "I did scummy things because I was lazy" is not sufficient defense.
I have to go for now, and I'm not sure I can make it back before the lynch. Sorry, I'm not buying your story at all, and your play is REALLY ANTITOWN no matter what sort of story you spin on it.
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Also I like this mood thing, perfect for expressing my thoughts on the game.
I need to go sleep now, and will just leave my vote on zentor for obvious reasons. I highly doubt that I will be here for the deadline unless I randomly wake up at 6 or something.
Night.
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All right, have fun lynching your other doctor.
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Ok shit, WHAT YOU DID IS F'ING STUPID
If someone else is the doctor counterclaim now.
##Unvote: MrZentor
##Vote: cccalf
I'll leave my vote on cccalf for now.
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Shit I have to go
Johnny, if someone counterclaims, make sure mrzentor gets lynched.
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i will neme lol. this is ridiculous.
ffs..oh god if ccc counterclaims wtf do we do x.x
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Wtf is this?
So Zentor, let me get this straight:
Since the middle of N1, you decide to "act" as stupid scum, so throughout that night and subsequent day, you would :
-Get ALL attention on you and have almost ALL discussion be made about you and not finding the ACTUAL scum
-Get a bandwagon formed against you barely HOURS before the day ends
And all this just so you can make a shitty PBPA analysis of everbody that doesn't even explain why you think some of them are scum or town, and is instead a "retelling" of their actions, and the reason you think they are scum are shitty as hell? (seriously, it seems you gave random ratings to some players, which you never stated ANY opinion regarding them)
Then you claim Doctor? All of this HOURS before the day ends?
You are going to tell us, that our DOCTOR, one of our most important power roles, would do this stupid gambit to get a bandwagon going against him?
Are you kidding me?
One more important thing: You never responded to the case I made on N1.
People didn't think you are scum just because you acted retarded (if not people would think Kenpachi/etc would be scum every single game), people thought you were scum because of how you acted on D1 and N1
I thought you were scum because of the points I made in my case, if it was for me I would have lynched you there myself without you doing all this "act" of yours.
Yet you still fail to acknowledge that, and you keep ignoring my case.
Seriously, you HAVE to be mafia, this doesn't make any sense if you are town.
If you are scum, then great, you spend ALL D2 acting stupid so your buddies can jump easily on your wagon, and so ALL discussion on D2 is stopped and all scumhunting is stopped as well.
Then right before the day ends, you make a half-assed big-assed post explaining your "act", and then claim Doctor to draw the real doctor out; or if the doctor isn't active when you claimed, then switch the lynch to an inactive and waste us ALL D2
Your claim my be true, but if someone else claims doctor you die.
*sigh* We don't have time to create another lynch candidate, meaning we can't lynch Sinensis or Blue..
I'd consider a NL, if it wasn't for the fact we would still get to a D3 MYLO with it
##Unvote: MrZentor
##Vote: cccalf
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I think you're being a little harsh.
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not harsh enough imo. you really fucked us, assuming you're town.
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Well, you can't blame the bad start on me.
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I'm talking about your recent Mr. Sinister performance. Of course I can't blame the bad start of the game on you, but we're past that right now. We have to focus on the present and presently you really screwed us up.
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Johnnywup, would you mind voting for ccalf?
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We've still got a couple hours. I've yet to decide on my vote. I want to see what he posts and who he votes for (assuming he posts). You're still super scummy in my eyes, so don't think you're out of this.
On a side note, I want sloOsh to post and share his thoughts on the recent events. He hasn't been posting much. Froggynoddy too..
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I claimed SU doctor, and nobody else has.
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