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On March 28 2012 12:49 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2012 12:47 Cyber_Cheese wrote:On March 28 2012 12:44 Blazinghand wrote:On March 28 2012 12:35 VisceraEyes wrote: C_C is the lynch today BH. If you disagree, you're obviously scum. Period. Are you scum BH? Does this look like a guy trying to help the town atmosphere, or is this a guy trying to cement is town rep and dissuade people from turning against him? This is NOT how you help the town. The thing is, he tunnelled me to a stupid extent in mafia L too. (I think it was L anyway...) I wouldn't put it past him to be accidentally destroying town atmosphere. This seems far more purposeful than something by accident. Threatening anyone who disagrees with him with lynching? That's not an accident. Saying I claimed scum then abandoning the thread? That's not an accident. VE is perfectly capable of playing a high-post-count scum, and that's what he's doing now. Here's my new pictorial analysis of the game: At any rate, I'm willing to vote JW, and he's on your scum list too. Want to start there?
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Blazinghand
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On March 28 2012 12:48 slOosh wrote: @Blazinghand
Are you saying that VE started up the CC bus and drove it home in order to gain infinite town cred? Or am I mistaken to say that you thought CC was scum (as 2nd option to JW)?
I currently think VE is scum. I'm not clear what the deal is with CC and JW. I think they're scummy as well. There's SOME possibility that all three are indeed scum in some horrific multi-bussing conspiracy, but it's probably that one of them is a townie. VE could have "accidentally" derailed town, as CC put it. CC might be town, but as town he's usually more helpful. Some have claimed JW is just bad, which I doubt-- but there's always the possibility.
The point I'm trying to make here is that VE is an important town leader at the moment, and he's gone off the deep end with his terrorism and terrorist plots. He's incredibly dangerous and he is hurting the town. I will not abide by his terrorist tactics, as it shuts down meaningful discussion of lynches.
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Blazinghand
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On March 28 2012 12:52 Cyber_Cheese wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2012 12:49 Blazinghand wrote:On March 28 2012 12:47 Cyber_Cheese wrote:On March 28 2012 12:44 Blazinghand wrote:On March 28 2012 12:35 VisceraEyes wrote: C_C is the lynch today BH. If you disagree, you're obviously scum. Period. Are you scum BH? Does this look like a guy trying to help the town atmosphere, or is this a guy trying to cement is town rep and dissuade people from turning against him? This is NOT how you help the town. The thing is, he tunnelled me to a stupid extent in mafia L too. (I think it was L anyway...) I wouldn't put it past him to be accidentally destroying town atmosphere. This seems far more purposeful than something by accident. Threatening anyone who disagrees with him with lynching? That's not an accident. Saying I claimed scum then abandoning the thread? That's not an accident. VE is perfectly capable of playing a high-post-count scum, and that's what he's doing now. Here's my new pictorial analysis of the game: At any rate, I'm willing to vote JW, and he's on your scum list too. Want to start there?
If you don't think VE is scum, I wouldn't mind help with a JW wagon. That being said, of the three of you who I suspect as scum, VE is by far the most dangerous, as a town leader and as a terrorist. JW is fairly benign, as he himself notes-- he's bad at making arguments and pushing wagons. I'd be comfortable with lynching him, but if VE is scum we really should try to get him D1.
I'd really prefer a VE lynch though. I'm going to see if I can drum up support and convince the others that we need to take him down. If that fails, then a JW lynch is on the table, and so is letting your wagon roll across the line.
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I have a question, BH. Why do you think that VE is scum even after he's been actively pushing to lynch someone who's on your scum list?
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Blazinghand
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On March 28 2012 13:03 johnnywup wrote: I have a question, BH. Why do you think that VE is scum even after he's been actively pushing to lynch someone who's on your scum list?
Two possibilities
1) I'm wrong about C_C or VE or Both 2) http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Bus
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On March 28 2012 12:56 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2012 12:52 Cyber_Cheese wrote:On March 28 2012 12:49 Blazinghand wrote:On March 28 2012 12:47 Cyber_Cheese wrote:On March 28 2012 12:44 Blazinghand wrote:On March 28 2012 12:35 VisceraEyes wrote: C_C is the lynch today BH. If you disagree, you're obviously scum. Period. Are you scum BH? Does this look like a guy trying to help the town atmosphere, or is this a guy trying to cement is town rep and dissuade people from turning against him? This is NOT how you help the town. The thing is, he tunnelled me to a stupid extent in mafia L too. (I think it was L anyway...) I wouldn't put it past him to be accidentally destroying town atmosphere. This seems far more purposeful than something by accident. Threatening anyone who disagrees with him with lynching? That's not an accident. Saying I claimed scum then abandoning the thread? That's not an accident. VE is perfectly capable of playing a high-post-count scum, and that's what he's doing now. Here's my new pictorial analysis of the game: At any rate, I'm willing to vote JW, and he's on your scum list too. Want to start there? If you don't think VE is scum, I wouldn't mind help with a JW wagon. That being said, of the three of you who I suspect as scum, VE is by far the most dangerous, as a town leader and as a terrorist. JW is fairly benign, as he himself notes-- he's bad at making arguments and pushing wagons. I'd be comfortable with lynching him, but if VE is scum we really should try to get him D1. I'd really prefer a VE lynch though. I'm going to see if I can drum up support and convince the others that we need to take him down. If that fails, then a JW lynch is on the table, and so is letting your wagon roll across the line. What a shitty non-committal post. "I think VE is scum, but JW or CC might be scum too." Take a stance on which ONE among them you actually think is scum. You are saying that they might all be scum, but VE is the most dangerous one. It doesn't matter who is more dangerous as scum(if that was the case we'd instantly lynch all veteran players), but who is most likely scum. Unless you are trying to say that all three of them are all scum, which is quite improbable.
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On March 28 2012 02:59 VisceraEyes wrote: gonzaw, you're using scum defense. You're trying to discredit peoples' reads of you by discrediting me. If they agree that you're suspicious, it's because you're acting suspiciously. Stop trying to blame everything on other people.
Townies vote. Townies try and find scum. You're trying to slither out of the spotlight. Just tell us who your teammates are and we'll kill you last.
I've only seen your "case", and some points Zentor made. Everybody else is just sheeping you right now. You point a post of mine and say "This is suspicious guys, can't you see it?" and zelblade/Zentor/etc just go "Yep, now that you mention it it's suspicious". Basicly they only agree with your case and don't really present any of them own (except Zentor at times). Defending myself against your case is the only thing to do, so if that's your definition of "discreting you" then well, yeah I'm discrediting you, but I'm just discrediting your bad case against me.
On March 28 2012 03:23 MrZentor wrote: You only asked what I thought of it, not why I thought what I thought of it.
Are you kidding me?
I think it's suspicious for the reasons VE has stated. It wasn't as suspicious as the second one I cited, because in that one it seems like you're scared of us thinking you're mafia. It's suspicious that everybody in this thread has ideas on who is scum, except for you. Actually, I analyze everything VE says, and, so far, I've agreed with *almost* everything he has said.
So why did you say you were "afraid" of him (VE)?
Okay, I don't want to clog this too much up, but can someone explain this to me please?:
It's suspicious that everybody in this thread has ideas on who is scum, except for you.
1-What makes you think I don't have ideas on who is scum? I already stated this several times. 2-At the time I made the posts you guys mention, why was it suspicious for me not to be 100% sure someone was scum?
Gonzaw, why was your spacing so strange on your first post?
@people that have a problem with my spacing: I use spacing to separate different ideas. Instead of making 4-5 posts, I use large spaces to denote the same feeling. The more spaces between 2 sentences, the more apart they are in terms of content. That way you don't see a single huge paragraph that dwells with 4-5 different points.
I dunno, it's the way I post. After Aperture I'm trying to improve it as I can.
On March 28 2012 06:31 EchelonTee wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2012 21:55 Bluelightz wrote: IMO, froggy dont be a new Jackal58 XD,
what does "being a new Jackal" mean in context of froggy's posting? oh and ur doing that thing where u call everyone townie. would be more helpful if you focused on your scum reads tyvm ^^
response to ppls about my posting: Show nested quote +On March 27 2012 22:32 gonzaw wrote: @Echelon: What's with your weird wording? Saying things like "hip hip hurrah!" or "you are crAAAzy" and that weird attitude of yours? I don't remember you ever playing like that, seems you may be trolling or something.
1. after I tanked hard in my last town game trying to play "serious aggresive asshole town leader", i'm looking for a new, hopefully less fail-whale town playstyle and you guys are the lucky testing grounds. problem? I'm being way more clear with my "weird wording" than you and you big posts.
So you are jumping on this bandwagon as well, huh?
What do you mean by the bolded part then? You think I'm scum? Why not say it outright if you do? If so, what else makes you think I'm scum? You never mentioned me other than saying you wanted my lynch as well.
On March 28 2012 06:53 slOosh wrote:As for C_C, still waiting for him to post something. I've looked at gonzaw and I do agree with this post from VE,. (From what I understand) He thinks Bluelightz is scum but he hasn't actually posted a case on him. Gonzaw could you just post the case on him instead of asking people to look at him?
So, you "agree" with a post VE made.
...so? Do you think I'm scum? Or not?
I'm getting tired of people just quoting VE and saying "I agree" and nothing else. If you ever find someone suspicious, state your own reasons for thinking so, or at least some thoughts of your own. Don't just COMPLETELY sheep someone else.
@C_C: You are being very useless right now. I'm actually considering lynching you as well.
Do you have anything to say about anything? You posted a case on Bluelightz, but even though I agree about him it wasn't even a good one. You say sloosh and me are scum, and provide 0 reasoning. You say jhonny is scum just for defending you there.
So, is that why I'm scum as well? Because I "defended" you at one point?
Okay Bluelightz, I was hoping that if you were town you would respond to my posts and try to be as helpful as possible. I found your reaction to be the worst one possible.
You are playing just like Aperture Mafia. Post oneliners, appear "confused", post smileys, etc.
You were sheeping VE's read on me too:
On March 27 2012 23:30 Bluelightz wrote: I don't like his posts, his first post has lots of fluff( I might say but I'm not so sure on this one). his second is setup speculation, it takes TWO posts to get his point out and clear >_>?, wait a sec on his 3rd post still thinking about
On March 27 2012 23:34 Bluelightz wrote: On his 4rd post, gonzaw was trying to get his points across to BH, and some questions, I dont feel this post is scummy.
On March 27 2012 23:40 Bluelightz wrote: ...... Agreed lol, If you want to push a lynch on him im fine with it too.
So at first you just don't "like" my posts, but you even found one of them wasn't scummy, then suddenly VE posts his bad case about how I'm scum because I "forgot" about C_C, and you suddenly agree with him?
Also, you totally ignored my post as well. I asked for your response, and you completely ignored it, just like you ignored my case on you in Aperture Mafia.
Really, I find your play here almost exactly the same as in Aperture, you lack confidence (wtf was that ET vote and unvote thing?), appear as a "confused newbie", and contribute almost nothing at all.
##Vote: Bluelightz
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Blazinghand
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On March 28 2012 13:06 Nemesis wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2012 12:56 Blazinghand wrote:On March 28 2012 12:52 Cyber_Cheese wrote:On March 28 2012 12:49 Blazinghand wrote:On March 28 2012 12:47 Cyber_Cheese wrote:On March 28 2012 12:44 Blazinghand wrote:On March 28 2012 12:35 VisceraEyes wrote: C_C is the lynch today BH. If you disagree, you're obviously scum. Period. Are you scum BH? Does this look like a guy trying to help the town atmosphere, or is this a guy trying to cement is town rep and dissuade people from turning against him? This is NOT how you help the town. The thing is, he tunnelled me to a stupid extent in mafia L too. (I think it was L anyway...) I wouldn't put it past him to be accidentally destroying town atmosphere. This seems far more purposeful than something by accident. Threatening anyone who disagrees with him with lynching? That's not an accident. Saying I claimed scum then abandoning the thread? That's not an accident. VE is perfectly capable of playing a high-post-count scum, and that's what he's doing now. Here's my new pictorial analysis of the game: At any rate, I'm willing to vote JW, and he's on your scum list too. Want to start there? If you don't think VE is scum, I wouldn't mind help with a JW wagon. That being said, of the three of you who I suspect as scum, VE is by far the most dangerous, as a town leader and as a terrorist. JW is fairly benign, as he himself notes-- he's bad at making arguments and pushing wagons. I'd be comfortable with lynching him, but if VE is scum we really should try to get him D1. I'd really prefer a VE lynch though. I'm going to see if I can drum up support and convince the others that we need to take him down. If that fails, then a JW lynch is on the table, and so is letting your wagon roll across the line. What a shitty non-committal post. "I think VE is scum, but JW or CC might be scum too." Take a stance on which ONE among them you actually think is scum. You are saying that they might all be scum, but VE is the most dangerous one. It doesn't matter who is more dangerous as scum(if that was the case we'd instantly lynch all veteran players), but who is most likely scum. Unless you are trying to say that all three of them are all scum, which is quite improbable.
Your'e a moron. I've taken a stance. I've voted VE.
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Blazinghand
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On March 28 2012 13:09 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2012 13:06 Nemesis wrote:On March 28 2012 12:56 Blazinghand wrote:On March 28 2012 12:52 Cyber_Cheese wrote:On March 28 2012 12:49 Blazinghand wrote:On March 28 2012 12:47 Cyber_Cheese wrote:On March 28 2012 12:44 Blazinghand wrote:On March 28 2012 12:35 VisceraEyes wrote: C_C is the lynch today BH. If you disagree, you're obviously scum. Period. Are you scum BH? Does this look like a guy trying to help the town atmosphere, or is this a guy trying to cement is town rep and dissuade people from turning against him? This is NOT how you help the town. The thing is, he tunnelled me to a stupid extent in mafia L too. (I think it was L anyway...) I wouldn't put it past him to be accidentally destroying town atmosphere. This seems far more purposeful than something by accident. Threatening anyone who disagrees with him with lynching? That's not an accident. Saying I claimed scum then abandoning the thread? That's not an accident. VE is perfectly capable of playing a high-post-count scum, and that's what he's doing now. Here's my new pictorial analysis of the game: At any rate, I'm willing to vote JW, and he's on your scum list too. Want to start there? If you don't think VE is scum, I wouldn't mind help with a JW wagon. That being said, of the three of you who I suspect as scum, VE is by far the most dangerous, as a town leader and as a terrorist. JW is fairly benign, as he himself notes-- he's bad at making arguments and pushing wagons. I'd be comfortable with lynching him, but if VE is scum we really should try to get him D1. I'd really prefer a VE lynch though. I'm going to see if I can drum up support and convince the others that we need to take him down. If that fails, then a JW lynch is on the table, and so is letting your wagon roll across the line. What a shitty non-committal post. "I think VE is scum, but JW or CC might be scum too." Take a stance on which ONE among them you actually think is scum. You are saying that they might all be scum, but VE is the most dangerous one. It doesn't matter who is more dangerous as scum(if that was the case we'd instantly lynch all veteran players), but who is most likely scum. Unless you are trying to say that all three of them are all scum, which is quite improbable. Your'e a moron. I've taken a stance. I've voted VE.
It's utterly preposterous that a Town-aligned VE would stifle town discussion by terrorizing anyone who disagrees with him. He has to be scum. We should lynch him.
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VE's pretty much just like that. I tunneled him in C9++ mafia for doing that same shit when he was town, but doesn't mean he's scum.
Got anything better than him just being VE?
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Blazinghand
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On March 28 2012 13:19 Nemesis wrote: VE's pretty much just like that. I tunneled him in C9++ mafia for doing that same shit when he was town, but doesn't mean he's scum.
Got anything better than him just being VE?
I find your meta explanation unacceptable. He also states that I have "claimed" scum, and yet his vote stays on someone else-- if I have truly claimed scum, why didn't he move his vote? He's just trying to silence legitimate voices in the town to cement his leadership.
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He doesn't. That's all.
I can't control anyone's vote. That's the big secret.
But I'm on a fucking bender finding scum. Say what you want about my tactics. Luck only gets you so far.
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Blazinghand
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On March 28 2012 13:24 VisceraEyes wrote: He doesn't. That's all.
I can't control anyone's vote. That's the big secret.
But I'm on a fucking bender finding scum. Say what you want about my tactics. Luck only gets you so far.
Are you gonna vote me, or retract your statement that I "claimed" scum? Pick one.
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Does any one else agree with Blazinghand that VE is using terrorist tactics to try and silence legitimate voices in the town in order to cement his leadership? Agreeing implies that VE has a Nazi agenda.
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And look at how everyone I've fingered has reacted. Everyone.
Every one of them guys.
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except Jdub. Guess what, I think he's town. *shrug*
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Blazinghand
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On March 28 2012 13:26 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2012 13:24 VisceraEyes wrote: He doesn't. That's all.
I can't control anyone's vote. That's the big secret.
But I'm on a fucking bender finding scum. Say what you want about my tactics. Luck only gets you so far. Are you gonna vote me, or retract your statement that I "claimed" scum? Pick one.
Still waiting on this.
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Okay, I'm going to sleep in a few minutes.
BH, I quite like this new style of yours, at least it's better than the one you started with in this game. What do you think about Blue BH? And what do you think about me?
We have 24 more hours (or so) to lynch, we have time to look at new possibilities and lynch someone else. I want to lynch Blue, he's the most confident read I have at the moment.
@ccalf & froggy: You guys almost haven't posted at all. Inactivity is what kills Minigames, at least most of the ones I played/observed. I'm waiting on you guys' thoughts.
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I can only lynch one of you BH. You're being ridiculous. Now, C_C is on your scumlist. Quit being unreasonable and vote for C_C. Why are you making this hard?
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Blazinghand
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On March 28 2012 13:32 VisceraEyes wrote: I can only lynch one of you BH. You're being ridiculous. Now, C_C is on your scumlist. Quit being unreasonable and vote for C_C. Why are you making this hard?
If I claimed scum, and you truly believe this to be the case, am I being ridiculous? Alternatively, if you are a scum player seizing control of the town and I am a town player, am I being ridiculous?
No, the only possibility where I'm being ridiculous is if we're both town.
That's not the case here.
So I'm not being ridiculous. And I'm still waiting for either a vote from you or a retraction of your statement that I claimed scum.
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