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johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
March 27 2012 08:04 GMT
#216
I also don't like how you took a complete 180 from saying I'm town to saying I'm scum after I start having trouble arguing my points, ET. Switching opinions isn't in itself bad but it seems kind of odd that you switched it that drastically after not that much changed.
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
March 27 2012 20:12 GMT
#290
sorry i haven't posted in a while. school +homework. I'll post my thoughts on everything in a few hours.
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
March 27 2012 22:49 GMT
#300
I personally don't see anything wrong with C_C's posting. However I think that EchelonTree is super suspicious. Sides with me until the moment I vote. Admittedly the argument that BH posted to change his mind was a strong one. But what makes me wonder if ET is scum is...

On March 27 2012 16:31 EchelonTee wrote:
so i was all like "BH's tunneling on nemesis is not very good, I don't like it". then I saw this and was like j.wup busting out the logic woot, my earlier suspicion on mr. wup was wrong! BH is being wildly scummy! But then BH reacted alright to ma prezzure, so then I re-read the post mr. wup and realized it was actually not good at all and I was a dumdum to think it was good so then I unvoted.

AKA

Nemesis case bad. J.wup case good.

First of all, my argument was strong at the time. He was acting scummy, in my opinion. But he defended himself well. So my argument fell apart. Which is fine.

But the thing is, previously you said
On March 27 2012 15:13 EchelonTee wrote:Am I REALLY being unhelpful BH? Are you REALLY being more helpful than me, with your subversive aggression?

I don't expect a logical response, I expect OMGUS. Other people can comment on this if they wish. You're making utterly no sense.

which ties into you saying I'm more scummy because BH defended himself well and my argument fell apart.
On March 27 2012 17:12 EchelonTee wrote:
here's how it goes mr. wup, i'm going to let you into the mind of ET.

I have an excel sheet. Everyone is on a scale of 1-5, town-scum. Everyone starts at 3. After the first few pages, I put you at a 4. After your post on BH, I put you to a 3. After the last 2 pages, I put you back to 4.

In thread it looks like a 180 I spose, but I put people's alignments on a sliding scale.


You made the same argument as me, that BH's posts were nonsensical. But after "rereading my posts after finding BHs argument to be strong" you found my argument was weak. This doesn't make me scummy, unless it makes you scummy as well, since you had the same opinion. Admittedly, BH's argument was pretty good and I don't fault you for unvoting. Arguments fall apart. Mine did. So why does that make me scum?

Why so hypocritical?
##vote: EchelonTee
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
March 27 2012 22:55 GMT
#302
No. I just don't think your case on C_C is very strong. I think bluelightz isn't being very helpful but I don't think that makes him scum.
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
March 27 2012 23:08 GMT
#310
On March 28 2012 08:00 VisceraEyes wrote:Look again johnny: I think you've got a good thing goin there with ET, but we can only lynch one at a time and presently C_C has the most support.

so you're lynching based on support rather than merit of argument? -_- I thought you were better than that VE.

I don't like arguments that rely on other mafia games for proof on "post style". I don't think the argument against C_C is very strong so I'm going to keep my vote on ET.
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
March 27 2012 23:10 GMT
#311
EBWOP: I think C_C has been underwhelming this game compared to the game you linked but I don't think that that makes him scum necessarily.
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
March 27 2012 23:16 GMT
#316
Are you mocking me VE? I don't think I'm better than you but I think trusting ones own judgement is better than trusting that the more experienced players will carry you to victory. I trust good arguments, not good posters. And your argument just didn't do it for me.
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
March 27 2012 23:22 GMT
#322
Are you sure you aren't mocking me?
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
March 27 2012 23:29 GMT
#328
*sigh* I never said I was better than you VE. I said that based on the evidence laid before me, I cannot find the connection that says C_C is scum. Suspicious, maybe, but I haven't seen anything that points to him being scum. You can't just say that he's scum and make me think "oh! he's scum!". I see your argument, I just can't make the connection that you're making. I don't like arguments that RELY on meta (im assuming that means other games). Arguments that INCLUDE meta are fine in my book. I can't see any other argument, but maybe I'm just stupid and can't add 2 and 2. The problem I have is that I legitimately don't understand what you're arguing.
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
March 27 2012 23:50 GMT
#333
On March 28 2012 08:28 EchelonTee wrote:
i'm not really sure how to respond to this because it doesn't make sense
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2012 07:49 johnnywup wrote:
I personally don't see anything wrong with C_C's posting. However I think that EchelonTree is super suspicious. Sides with me until the moment I vote. Admittedly the argument that BH posted to change his mind was a strong one. But what makes me wonder if ET is scum is...

On March 27 2012 16:31 EchelonTee wrote:
so i was all like "BH's tunneling on nemesis is not very good, I don't like it". then I saw this and was like j.wup busting out the logic woot, my earlier suspicion on mr. wup was wrong! BH is being wildly scummy! But then BH reacted alright to ma prezzure, so then I re-read the post mr. wup and realized it was actually not good at all and I was a dumdum to think it was good so then I unvoted.

AKA

Nemesis case bad. J.wup case good.

First of all, my argument was strong at the time. He was acting scummy, in my opinion. But he defended himself well. So my argument fell apart. Which is fine.

no your arguement wasn't strong. this post didn't make any sense. i could detail to you exactly why it doesn't, but you're going to have to do some thinking sometime.

I really don't see why the argument was that bad. I dunno what to say, sorry? I don't know. I don't understand how it's so vastly different.

Show nested quote +
On March 28 2012 07:49 johnnywup wrote:
But the thing is, previously you said
On March 27 2012 15:13 EchelonTee wrote:Am I REALLY being unhelpful BH? Are you REALLY being more helpful than me, with your subversive aggression?

I don't expect a logical response, I expect OMGUS. Other people can comment on this if they wish. You're making utterly no sense.

which ties into you saying I'm more scummy because BH defended himself well and my argument fell apart.

what? you didn't actually state anything by bringing up this quote. in this post, and in your atk on BH, you draw several quotes but don't actually use them to prove anything. my english professor would fail you.

Yeah I'm pretty bad at that lol. I tried to draw them all together at the end but I guess it didn't go well :/

Show nested quote +
On March 28 2012 07:49 johnnywup wrote:
On March 27 2012 17:12 EchelonTee wrote:
here's how it goes mr. wup, i'm going to let you into the mind of ET.

I have an excel sheet. Everyone is on a scale of 1-5, town-scum. Everyone starts at 3. After the first few pages, I put you at a 4. After your post on BH, I put you to a 3. After the last 2 pages, I put you back to 4.

In thread it looks like a 180 I spose, but I put people's alignments on a sliding scale.


You made the same argument as me, that BH's posts were nonsensical. But after "rereading my posts after finding BHs argument to be strong" you found my argument was weak. This doesn't make me scummy, unless it makes you scummy as well, since you had the same opinion. Admittedly, BH's argument was pretty good and I don't fault you for unvoting. Arguments fall apart. Mine did. So why does that make me scum?

Why so hypocritical?
##vote: EchelonTee

once again, you take one of my quotes and completely ignore what i said. you still haven't provided a single actual reason why i'm "super suspicious". whatever. I had the same STANCE as you (blazinghand a scummy fck) but my ARGUMENT was constructed definitely. as in it made sense while yours, upon further investigation, feels fabricated and false.

How? I really don't see the difference. And I was asking the question why I become more scummy since you had a similar argument (I really don't see the difference on how my argument more scummy).

don't link myself and you; you're scummy not because of your bad arguement. it's because your reasoning for voting BH is fake. just look at this. does anyone srsly think this is a good reason to vote someone? it reminds me of when TKHawkins tried to bandwagon me in surprisingly normal VII. Get your vote off me, you're not starting a wagon on me today.

I've mentioned before that I voted based on the reasons I had posted prior to that post, and that was only an additional point..alone it would be a bad reason to vote for someone, yes.

---
I don't think you're scum VE so I'll just trust you. I don't think I'm being unreasonable, having an opinion and all. My argument against ET wasn't very strong, but it was something. I couldn't link why you thought he was scum until you explained it to me, so thanks for that. Your argument is better now that I see what you mean. I don't suppose many people think I'm town right now, and I don't think that me submitting to lynching C_C will really change much, but I'll do what I can to clear my name.
##unvote EchelonTee
##vote Cyber_Cheese


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note to self: don't try and be helpful because my arguments are terrible and have me look like scum in both of the games I've played.
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
March 28 2012 00:01 GMT
#338
when did I defend you C_C? I only said I thought VE's argument against you was bad, at the time. I never said I thought you were town.
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
March 28 2012 02:28 GMT
#350
why would you include nationality in the c_c?
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
March 28 2012 03:35 GMT
#379
@BH and everyone else who wants me lynched

I dunno what to say other than that I'm town, and I've definitely done a poor job showing that. I tried to scum hunt but I'm new and bad so everything i say comes to bite me in the ass every time because I can't argue shit. I know that and it's been put against me many times, and that's just how it is, I guess. So lynch me, but you'll be down a townie and in for trouble from mafia.

I guess I'm not really helping anyways so lynching me wouldn't be too detrimental, really. I'd lynch myself if it gave town information actually but there's no information that would come of it. So if you want to lynch me go ahead but there's no information that's going to surface from lynching an omgus townie that can't argue for his life.

johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
March 28 2012 03:42 GMT
#388
I love those pictures.
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
March 28 2012 03:51 GMT
#400
i dunno bh, im pretty sure im not scum :O
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
March 28 2012 04:03 GMT
#404
I have a question, BH. Why do you think that VE is scum even after he's been actively pushing to lynch someone who's on your scum list?
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
March 28 2012 05:01 GMT
#438
On March 28 2012 13:55 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2012 13:53 Blazinghand wrote:
##unvote
##vote johnnywup


/facepalm

Now he's gonna claim. You're an ass BH.

claim that I'm scum?

I'm not,sorry to disappoint everyone lol
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
March 28 2012 05:08 GMT
#446
the internet loves cats, and me and bluelightz are cats. therefore the internet loves us. everyone posting in this game is part of the internet.

everyone in this game loves me and bluelightz ♥
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
March 28 2012 14:10 GMT
#462
On March 28 2012 20:54 froggynoddy wrote:
Show nested quote +
Attention: EchelonTee is not my lynch of choice. I'm compromising for the good of the town. Thank you.

he was mocking me here. he wasnt defending/buddying me, he was pissed at me.
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
March 28 2012 15:46 GMT
#465
no, he was never willing to change his vote. he never planned on keeping his vote on ET, he was mocking my vote. (at least thats how i understand it)
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