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Kohbee
Profile Joined May 2011
United States155 Posts
March 30 2012 00:46 GMT
#1238
hey guys. I have been reading along pretty much since day 1 because I am new to these forums and wanted to start playing. This is my first game on TL (i play over at mafiascum.net).

In my previous life as gumshoe I just left the game completely. I guess you can call that lurking but I would like to start fresh with you all.

A lot of you are definately on to something reading into Zealos and Xatalos. Personally I believe heavily in the cases presented by Mattchew, Jitsu, and to some extent chaoser.

I think that those 2 should be our primary candidates for lynching unless another case that is stronger on someone is presented. My vote right now would go to Zealos but being new to the game I would like to gather some other opinions as I re-read through the thread more carefully.


Kohbee
Profile Joined May 2011
United States155 Posts
March 30 2012 15:27 GMT
#1247
On March 30 2012 16:57 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2012 09:46 Kohbee wrote:
A lot of you are definately on to something reading into Zealos and Xatalos. Personally I believe heavily in the cases presented by Mattchew, Jitsu, and to some extent chaoser.


Hm... I'll give you some time to prove to be pro-town, since you just replaced gumshoe, but this isn't a good start. To me, this just looks like a Mafia-manipulated bandwagon easy to jump on at this point

Jitsu, I never said you'd be a good lynch after I saw your case against me (like Mattchew said after I voted for him earlier)... I was just surprised that you made a case against me, at the same time as my verdict on you was "bad lynch". I still think so, although I'm a bit suspicious of focusing on me over some much better targets. And how was my opinion list suspicious..? I think it was Oberyn who said that Mafia hate to give their opinions, because it'll be a pain in the future (more difficulties saving teammates later etc.). Since Oberyn was proved town later on, I'm willing to believe him.

I'll put my vote on GreYMisT now, since I'm not as convinced about any other lynch target. I hope I don't have to change it later just to make the difference between a medium lynch and a bad lynch...

##Vote GreYMisT


Give me some time to be pro-town? Are you trying to buddy me cause that just sounds terrible. You should give me time to get a read on me, not have me play how you expect me to play.

Your lynch system is awfully scummy in my opinion. It looks like you are trying to blend in with opinions but don't want to take a firm stance anywhere but Greymist. You also don't seem to be doing any actual scum hunting just posting weak lists and trying to fade away (you're posting has become more and more distant as the game progresses).

On March 30 2012 23:53 GreYMisT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2012 19:13 Zealos wrote:
I know, I won't vote until near the deadline for the voting thread. The votes in here is just my current desision.


I have to go o a funeral today, but I have enough of a spare moment to say: "what?"

Why not vote in the voting thread? its not like a vote there is set in stone, you have until the end of the day to alter it...

Sounds like someone is afraid of being committed to a vote, and is setting themselves up for an escape if need be

I completely agree with GreYMisT. You have had next to no solid opinions and seem to want to ride the coattails of others while only fighting over opinions that you knew others agreed with you on. I think you are scum. I will be voting for you.

##vote Zealos


One other thing of note is that lyter seems to still be active outside of this thread which is also true of evantrees to a much lesser extent. I think that 1 of these 2 is scum and should be strongly considered. Neither has contributed much of anything to the game and seem to be gliding along not really caring about town's discussions and direction.
Kohbee
Profile Joined May 2011
United States155 Posts
March 30 2012 17:09 GMT
#1249
On March 31 2012 00:31 Zealos wrote:
Greymist, Kohbee, both scum. Your whole post consisted of defending greymist, then agreeing with greymist on what was already a shit case based on pedantics. You say I have no solid opinions despite me saying that I find Grey scummy, and the irony of you talking about riding on other people's opinions is pretty sad.

Also, having a go at someone for giving you the benefit of the doubt? You seem awfully keen to stir up whatever trouble you can.

I'll be voting Grey today, and Kohbee tomorrow. I'm off for a bit now, later.

My post does nothing to defend greymist of anything. I see that you like to bring up the fact that people stir up trouble as something scummy. + Show Spoiler +
On March 23 2012 04:43 Zealos wrote:
@Acro
Matthew is... Weird. He makes some perfectly valid points, but also seems to make some rather moot ones. Although looking at the filter, he makes a LOT of accusations, without having all that much reason. For instance
+ Show Spoiler +
oh so your his scum teammate?

explain to me why you are not scum.

you have 90 minutes

then MrZentor, bad reading comprehension in hand, makes a terrible post with his lead point of his slippery slope theory being untrue because Mattchew (who is awesome, sexy and lover of all townies) never even voted for Acrofales!

i say we lynch acrofales and everyone that has defended him


I would be all about a Xatalos lynching today. He posts reek of "I want to look like the rest of you"

We should lynch Oberyn

He seems to constantly switch targets, and it seems like he wants to stir up confusion. Although he almost seems too obvious in the way he does it, which could just be bad town.

Summary: I would certainly say suspicious, but not 100% mafia yet, but should no better targets appear, would be a reasonable day 1 lynch.

On March 27 2012 04:03 Zealos wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Ok, I was going to wait until tomorrow, however, his most recent post just tipped me over the edge.
Mattchew is the 2nd mafia, and my lynch choice for tomorrow.
He very rarely makes useful posts, and right from the start has posted a ton of spam and filler.
Examples:
On March 22 2012 00:25 Mattchew wrote:
lolololololol

im going to assume this is sandroba?

oh so your his scum teammate?

explain to me why you are not scum.

you have 90 minutes

where you at homeslice and why should i think you are not scum

wut?

OMG 5 WHOLE POSTS ABOUT HIM 3 OF WHICH ARE NOT EVEN SERIOUS? NO WAYYYYY

wbg you know better than that, I thought you wanted to help town

i said it here too herpderp speaking in absolutes is not scum slipping herpderp

my first game ever where I was scared to post.
(Apparently not)
[image loading]

me and SLG <3 vague posts.
(Irony)

btw defense is completely overrated. I do it cause i have too much fucking time to hawk the thread


I'm down with ignoring risen wbg acro And mr zentos completely

Welcome to TL Mafia.

wut?

you have to be joking

When was the last time he made a decent case against anyone? He appears to stir up controversy and limit discussion wherever he goes.
He's also one of the only people really defending Risen, so there could be a possible link there. However, this will be much more apparent should Risen flip mafia tonight (Assuming lynch)

On March 27 2012 20:56 Zealos wrote:
Mattchew, can you make a good case instead of posting annoying 1 liners designed to stir up controversy, or should I just vote for you now?


This hasn't exactly worked out for the benefit of town with you saying this about Mattchew and noone else. Since when is stirring things up and forcing reactions out of people a scum thing?


Kohbee
Profile Joined May 2011
United States155 Posts
March 30 2012 17:21 GMT
#1251
On March 31 2012 02:14 Zealos wrote:
I like how you pick and chose certain posts, while ignoring the ones where I just say that he's a bad townie, not mafia, not to mention only suspecting Mattchew had Risen flipped mafia.

Oh, and lying about what you posted earlier in a page in a thread is pretty stupid:
Show nested quote +
Your lynch system is awfully scummy in my opinion. It looks like you are trying to blend in with opinions but don't want to take a firm stance anywhere but Greymist.
-- The sort of soft defence that suits mafia trying to defend one another while not being too conspicuous.

Then
Show nested quote +
I completely agree with GreYMisT. You have had next to no solid opinions and seem to want to ride the coattails of others while only fighting over opinions that you knew others agreed with you on. I think you are scum. I will be voting for you.

blending in with opinions = no solid opinions. I have not lied and you are trying to slander me.

You are also lying about only suspecting Mattchew if Risen should flip scum. You mentioned being extremely suspicious of him before Risen even became a factor in the thread because of his stirring it up.
Kohbee
Profile Joined May 2011
United States155 Posts
March 30 2012 18:51 GMT
#1254
How can you say that when you never voted acrofales, only asked him questions and on the same day cycle used this against mattchew? Why are you trying to take credit for finding scum when you defended him and helped him post better?
On March 23 2012 04:44 Zealos wrote:
Not to mention him being incredibly anti Acrofales.

Kohbee
Profile Joined May 2011
United States155 Posts
March 31 2012 17:53 GMT
#1268
Did you not realize I subbed in for Gumshoe?

Also, if you can point out examples of Zealos doing
some good stuff which is completely ignored

Because I am sick of arguing with just him about this.

Also, that has to be the laziest "long" post I have ever read. Basically reason you have in there is an excuse for why you cant post the actual reason.
Kohbee
Profile Joined May 2011
United States155 Posts
April 02 2012 03:03 GMT
#1311
I am fucking gumshoe.

Also,

##vote zealos
Kohbee
Profile Joined May 2011
United States155 Posts
April 03 2012 18:44 GMT
#1327
On April 04 2012 03:17 Zealos wrote:
I am voting Xata because I think he is mafia. I am not voting risk as he called me non-scum, when I am not scum. Glean from that what you will.

This is stupid. Thanks for confirming my vote on you. WIFOM and a complete lack of caring to do any scum hunting or provide anything of your own?
Kohbee
Profile Joined May 2011
United States155 Posts
April 04 2012 15:23 GMT
#1346
On April 05 2012 00:18 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2012 16:00 Zealos wrote:
You guys are fucking idiots.


Way to make people agree with you...

way to be scum teammates
Kohbee
Profile Joined May 2011
United States155 Posts
April 05 2012 19:26 GMT
#1441
On April 06 2012 04:09 Jitsu wrote:
Oh, also, I saw someone recently (think it was Risk.Nuke) bring up my soft medic claim.

I was hoping to WIFOM the Mattchew hit. Arco did a good job of drawing out Mattchew as the jailer. I was only a VT. I felt that, at that time, Mattchew was doing a decent job contributing (better then in previous games then I recall) and felt that his power as a Jailer would be better then my power as a VT, obviously. I got my call out on Xatalos in time, so I didn't see a downside, as he was my strongest read.

I was hoping to force the Mafia's hand in trying to hit me, since they wouldn't be sure if I was healing Mattchew, thus wasting a shot, and killing me, again, wasting a shot. They didn't take the bait, however.

scum actually fucked this up. They should have shot you and mattchew. They were guarenteed a kill and if you were bluffing maybe get 2 if mattchew doesnt jail you. At worst mattchew jailing you would roleblock so he would die, at best you get 2 kills
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