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*Toadesstern is helping me co-host this game. Any questions can be directed towards her or myself. Toad is a her? or are you trolling? I just assume she was a he... =) Maybe I should ask toad.. Toad are you a she? =) | ||
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On March 16 2012 16:42 Bluelightz wrote: Dirkzor playing? I'll be watching from the obs qt :D Oh? Whats thats supposed to mean? :D | ||
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(did the time show up in your own time correct?) | ||
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And a funny one at that... Interesting... Please add who writes which posts in the end of your posts and don't start posting with your own account... Game on! | ||
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About policy lynches... I'm game for all of them. Lurkers, Liars, Hydras, Airships, toads, spammers, batmans and plastic ducks. Hang em' all! Seriously though, people should be active and posting (looking at jackal). | ||
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On March 18 2012 15:54 Tobon wrote: Only one thing so far is absolutely clear: Toad_in_pink_dress is our only hope to maintain our town's historic amphibian worshipping ways, now that poor, martyred Toadesstern is no more. If there are any doctors (or better, veterinarians!) among us: know that Toad_in_pink_dress must be protected at all costs! That important message having been said, at the moment I'm with Nemesis and slOosh. Johnnywup's behavior is coming across to me as townie deer in headlights, rather than amphibian-god-napping scum. On the other hand, grilling the newb to get some sort of reaction is very positive townie behavior as well. Hmph. I don't trust my own reads much. I think we'll get the most real solid info out of the voting for day 1, as long as we avoid a no-lynch. So I plan to bandwagon on whomever can get close to enough votes. All your reads are likely to be better than mine, and that way I can hopefully prove my town-itude by being a deciding vote on a scum slaying. While this post contains a huge amount of fluff you actaully have a scummy stance on the game... 1) You think JW is a new townie player. 2) People grilling him are acting town by doing so 3) You don't trust your own reads - (don't worry just ask your team) 4) Think we're lynching for information 5) Will bandwagon anyone so we get a lynch 6) Push responsibility away from yourself What a bad post all in all. You are going about this all wrong. But hopefully you'll figure it out on your own. @VE: If this is your new style I liked your old one better. | ||
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I've yet to take a stance on JW. I think the votes on him are very weak but you can't really expect anything else at this point in the game. I think that Tobon's post is pure rubbish which was what i pointed out. He made several newbie mistake in his first real post and while he is a newbie its still a bad post. The good thing is he now have made all those mistake and I expect him to act better going forward. To answer your question directly: I don't know my teammates yet. Do you? | ||
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While your at it explain your red read on Nemesis? | ||
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While I'm not convinced about your towniness so far I'm not seeing you in red lights just yet. Personally I don't like jcarlsoniv. He seemed to jump the wagon way to quickly. Since I also think the whole case on Johnny is somewhat weak at this point doesn't help jcarlsoniv. On March 18 2012 23:35 jcarlsoniv wrote: Omg I'm alive... Damn Toad, that diagram was super informative. ![]() Show nested quote + On March 18 2012 16:54 Dirkzor wrote: On March 18 2012 15:54 Tobon wrote: Only one thing so far is absolutely clear: Toad_in_pink_dress is our only hope to maintain our town's historic amphibian worshipping ways, now that poor, martyred Toadesstern is no more. If there are any doctors (or better, veterinarians!) among us: know that Toad_in_pink_dress must be protected at all costs! That important message having been said, at the moment I'm with Nemesis and slOosh. Johnnywup's behavior is coming across to me as townie deer in headlights, rather than amphibian-god-napping scum. On the other hand, grilling the newb to get some sort of reaction is very positive townie behavior as well. Hmph. I don't trust my own reads much. I think we'll get the most real solid info out of the voting for day 1, as long as we avoid a no-lynch. So I plan to bandwagon on whomever can get close to enough votes. All your reads are likely to be better than mine, and that way I can hopefully prove my town-itude by being a deciding vote on a scum slaying. While this post contains a huge amount of fluff you actaully have a scummy stance on the game... 1) You think JW is a new townie player. 2) People grilling him are acting town by doing so 3) You don't trust your own reads - (don't worry just ask your team) 4) Think we're lynching for information 5) Will bandwagon anyone so we get a lynch 6) Push responsibility away from yourself What a bad post all in all. You are going about this all wrong. But hopefully you'll figure it out on your own. @VE: If this is your new style I liked your old one better. Yes, awful post, but I'm getting more of a new town vibe off of it. It reminds me of my thought process when I started playing. (Assuming he's new, if he's not, then this turns into a VERY scummy post) Show nested quote + On March 18 2012 10:28 Nemesis wrote: On March 18 2012 10:17 jcarlsoniv wrote: ##vote johnnywup I shall join VE on this. My gut supa stronk. Last post before I go out. DON'T HIDE YE IRISH SPIRIT Mind explaining your vote? I think that right now you guys are jumping on an easy bandwagon. johnnywup is a new player and this is his first game. Newbie mafias are more likely to lurk and be wishy washy with their post as you say. But he did take a stance that he thought jackal was town, which means that he is not avoiding the issue at all. Explain my vote, eh? Well, I voted quite early in the day. Do you know why? Because I found (and still do find) his posting to be suspicious. So I placed a vote on him. I can find out information this way. But, sorry, I didn't mean to offend you and your scum buddy. Compare what I bolded with jcarlsoniv's case on Johnny... Its the same points that I bring up against Tobon that jcarlson brings up about johnny. But when its tobon its a newbie town read and when its Johnny its a scummy read. Huh? Tobon and Jcarlsoniv are scum together. | ||
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After re-reading I agree that Jcarlsoniv was the first to state clearly that he found johnny scummy. At the point I wrote the post I assume that VE had already voted johnny when jcarlsoniv posted his scum read. But that wasn't really the big point. The big point was that two players doing similar things is 2 very different things for carlsoniv. I've read the thread in the small breaks i've had at work. I'm feeling iffy about sandroba. I just assume he would play like palmar for some reason and he have not. Is he always this inactive? Will re-read while getting dinner. I'll be here until lynch. | ||
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But thanks for reminding me of the mason claim. had forgot about that one... yay for rereading! =) | ||
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On March 20 2012 03:03 slOosh wrote: Show nested quote + On March 20 2012 02:56 Toad_in_Pink_Dress wrote: +Slo0sh VE was an sk in storm so it is not a great example of his town play. I don't understand this statement. Are you confusing me with someone else? I think it was nemesis that stated that VE was town (blue) in storm when he was infact the SK 3rd party. | ||
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He have yet to point out who he think is scummy. He have voted sloosh but his case on him is worse the sloosh's case on himself. A few hours after voting sloosh, xsksc would shoot Jackal. Why not shoot the guy you're voting? On March 19 2012 12:19 xsksc wrote: Show nested quote + On March 19 2012 12:06 johnnywup wrote: I'd kill tobon. He's very dodgy with answers and wants to kill anyone thats popularly being voted for lynching. Very scummy. I feel like sloosh is more scummy than you in my eyes. VE is very...neutral. its very hard to read him. he's dictating conversations and his opinions seem to be valued more than anyone elses. He could be a mafia trying to get hold of the town, or he could be a townie being honest. What about you? I would shoot into the inactives, possibly Jackal. I know that jackal is a usually a strong town player, and tends to be pretty aggressive, so his inactivity is worrying me. Obviously he could just be busy (hungover? ![]() As Sandroba puts it: Remember people, the ones that we are really looking after are people that are actively avoiding to say anything that could be considered scummy, trying to blend in and hide, while not actually doing anything thing useful and that's what can be observed about Johnny is imo a bad lynch. I havent made up my mind about Tobon yet. Will read his filter now. ##Vote xsksc | ||
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Dirkzor Well only the vowels are different. You are excused! =) TIPD: Whats with all these lists...? Thats not hunting scum thats just making lists. I want more layabout posting (you know the long ones with multible spoilers?) and less lists! | ||
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You've just downplayed your own vote on Sloosh by saying you found him scummy only by his own logic. What about your own logic? You appear to post thoughts on the game while not writing anything conclusive so you don't have to change your mind later. | ||
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I don't understand his vote on me though. He seems so willing to believe the majority is right but just this instant he trusts his own reads more then the majority as it was earlier... =) | ||
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Probulous is also a good lynch candidate for a day 1 lynch. But lynch is coming up fast and we need to consolidate soon. | ||
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On March 20 2012 04:48 xsksc wrote: Also, has anyone actually come to a conclusive opinnion about ANYONE today, dirkzor? People are changing their minds left right and centre. No. My scum read on you is not conslusive either. But at least I've taken a stance where you have not. I'm trying to push this forward while all your activity have done nothing more then increase the post count. | ||
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On March 20 2012 04:50 xsksc wrote: Show nested quote + On March 20 2012 04:48 Dirkzor wrote: I'm inclined to believe that scum is not where I think they are day 1. Which is why I'm pushing xsksc. Tobon and Johnny are the easy outs which never produce scum anyway. Probulous is also a good lynch candidate for a day 1 lynch. But lynch is coming up fast and we need to consolidate soon. Unless I'm misinterprating that, you're pushing to lynch me because I'm not one of the places you would have found scum? I'd love to defend myself here, but you're giving me nothing. What I'm saying is that the one everyone find scummy day1 always ends up being town who made some stupid mistake during the day and everyone can agree that its stupid and therefor lynches that person. Tobon and Johnny fits that. I'm looking at the 2nd row of suspects. Either way, I'm skimming trough your filter (again) and I might be just the way you write your suspicions. You never really put words to why exactly you find him scummy - or not in a case-way, if that makes sense. Just that you disagreed and then you voted him. Reading Sloosh's filter now. | ||
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I'm down with lynching any of the following due to the power of elemination: Sloosh xsksc Jackal Probulous TIPD Nemesis (in no particular order) Are there 3 or 4 scum this game? Or don't we know? We already have a bunch of "confirmed" townies. These combined with my town reads give me this list. | ||
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##Vote Jackal58 Consolidate. | ||
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On March 20 2012 05:41 Jackal58 wrote: Great. More Jub Jubs. I'm at work ya maroons. You called me out for lurking while I was at work. Post more when not working? | ||
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Probulous Nemesis Sloosh Or 2 therein if only 3 scum. GG | ||
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or 2 therein if only 2 scum left. | ||
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On March 21 2012 00:02 slOosh wrote: --cut--- The reason I didn't want to sheep Sandroba was because the bandwagon was forming really fast and I was scared that he could have been mafia pulling off an easy mislynch with no repercussions. I was willing to sheep on Snarfs because I could see how he could be mafia and that wasn't a 10 minute before deadline bandwagon, which allowed for additional information input and discussion and a possible change in vote. I didn't have that luxury with Jackal and so I decided no lynch was better than a null read lynch. --cut--- You were scared that Sandroba was mafia pushing for a mislynch? Sandrobe is at best confirmed town (and was) at worst easy to find scum later on due to his mason claim. So thats bull. On March 20 2012 06:51 slOosh wrote: Catching up and going through Jackal's filter, I don't see anything telling of scum. Additionally, its been pointed out, but this bandwagon is forming really fast and people are just jumping on. From what I understand from my experience w/ TL Mafia, jackal doesn't bother putting in effort D1 since he always dies / his early reads are poor (or at least that is what people say about him). Does it absolve him of lurking? Well, combined with St. Patrick Day, power outage and work I'm really leaning null. And a no-lynch is better than a lynch on (someone who I think is) a null read, especially since this is a true bandwagon where the only true read is Sandroba's and mostly everyone is sheeping. Not gonna lynch someone who I don't think is scum, and can't even apply the faulty "we get information out of it" because we won't. ##Unvote Snarfs ##Vote no-lynch About this post. I disagree that it makes sloosh look scummier if jackal flipped town than if Jackal flipped scum. This post makes perfect sense if Sloosh knew Jackal allignment. We only had 7 votes on Jackal and this was 10 min before lynch. He only needed to convince 1 person to vote differently to get jackal off the hook. He spends most of this post explaining reasons why it is most likely that Jackal isn't scum. Then ends with: And a no-lynch is better than a lynch on (someone who I think is) a null read, especially since this is a true bandwagon where the only true read is Sandroba's and mostly everyone is sheeping. Not gonna lynch someone who I don't think is scum, and can't even apply the faulty "we get information out of it" because we won't. Which is gently telling people to take votes of because the lynch is bad without saying it outright. | ||
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About Probulous: I like his filter. I liked his pushing and case on VE and I like his case on you. Of the three on my list I find him the least likely to be scum. His case on Sloosh might come to push a mis-lynch if sloosh is town. Most people seemed willing to lynch sloosh even before probulous case, so probulous made a case to get a townie lynched. That will clear up when/if sloosh flips Nemesis have been tunnelling hard on VE. Don't really know what to make of it. Both Nemesis and Probulous made cases on VE within a 20 min timeframe. Combined with this post On March 20 2012 06:44 Nemesis wrote: Show nested quote + On March 20 2012 05:06 sandroba wrote: Alright I read through everyone's filter quite some times and I think we should indeed lynch Jackal. If anyone opposes please tell me why. He said previously he didn't have any opinion on snarfs when talking to VE, but he took 3 min to filter him this game, look at the filter I posted from the previous game, compare, think about it and come to the conclusion he is scum. I don't believe that is possible. ##Unvote ##Vote Jackal58 I don't quite buy the case against him, and when he was talking to VE, he said that snarfs was "non-existant." I'm guessing he meant that snarfs was lurking. I'd still prefer a VE lynch right now. The meat of his lynch is that he is lurking, which he seems to do a lot day 1 in other games too. just before sloosh made his vote for no-lynch. It just seem to fit. VE: Option 2? Maybe you wasn't asking me? =) | ||
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On March 21 2012 07:13 VisceraEyes wrote: Also I was roleblocked. Apparently having massive thread-presence is some kind of blue-tell. lmao Got to go now, but bringing this back to light! 2 roleblocks now... | ||
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On March 21 2012 16:01 xsksc wrote: Two roleblockers AND a framer? Doesn't sound likely.. two roleblockers and a framer on the scum team does seem unlikely. It could be 1 town roleblocker and 1 scum, but I still find this unlikely. Sloosh wants us to look into the people bandwagoning Jackal (and now himself). This doesn't really make sense since Jackal was scum and we only just got him lynched. If we had 10 people on jackal I could agree that some might be scum but with only 7 votes the scenerio just fits better that scum voted elsewhere. | ||
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I'm also quite confused about where to vote. I think probulous is making sense in what he is saying. I see the difference between VE's town read on Jackal and TIPD's non-read on jackal. Its NOT the same as xsksc and VE is tryign to make it appear. I still think at least 1 scum is on the "non jackal vote" list, but I'm more and more inclined to believed we had scum voting jackal. Be that TIPD or another I don't know. I just always second guess. | ||
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##Vote slOosh I won't be back before lynch so this will be it. If you decide to lynch Probulous I see no problem. | ||
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I'm sorry I wasn't here for the lynch but I put my vote where I thought it would find scum. Many of you were in doubt aswell. Anyway.. Nemesis is someone who has to die before lylo. Blue roles do your job! Btw this doesn't confirm slOosh in any way really. If both probulous and slOosh are scum it would make perfect sense to just bus eachother. Whoever gets lynched the other gets a lot of towncred. slOosh was fast to point to himself as confirmed town (or 99%). Just saying. A thing talking against this theory is that they might have tried to push the lynch towards nemesis more? | ||
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On March 23 2012 07:56 johnnywup wrote: Show nested quote + On March 23 2012 07:52 Dirkzor wrote:Nemesis is someone who has to die before lylo. Blue roles do your job! what? we're no where NEAR lylo...quite the opposite really.. I know. But my statement is still valid. Even is Nemesis is town how can you justify lynching anyone else then him giving how day 1 + 2 went down? | ||
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On March 23 2012 08:02 Toad_in_Pink_Dress wrote: Is it bad that i'm annoyed at how dumb that switch was? Oh well, time to go 3/3. and kill Nemesis Show nested quote + On March 22 2012 05:15 Toad_in_Pink_Dress wrote: I am about to take a trip to indonesia and slap my other head across the face with a wet fish for out-lurking me when i am still alive in another game. Nemesis what is your current stance on VE? I wish i could have had an answer to this earlier. Show nested quote + On March 23 2012 07:52 Dirkzor wrote: How did I become a suspect? O_o I'm sorry I wasn't here for the lynch but I put my vote where I thought it would find scum. Many of you were in doubt aswell. Anyway.. Nemesis is someone who has to die before lylo. Blue roles do your job! Btw this doesn't confirm slOosh in any way really. If both probulous and slOosh are scum it would make perfect sense to just bus eachother. Whoever gets lynched the other gets a lot of towncred. slOosh was fast to point to himself as confirmed town (or 99%). Just saying. A thing talking against this theory is that they might have tried to push the lynch towards nemesis more? Dirkzor, do you still think that slOosh is scum? Im on my phone in bed. Just going to answer this fast. He isn't shiny green to me right now but he looks better with the probulous lynch. I just wanted to point it out before everyone started threading him like confirmed town. | ||
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March 23 2012 07:44 GMT
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March 23 2012 09:57 GMT
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VE played well. Establishing himself as town early while finding scum! Sandroba did little posting but still controlled the town. Vets gets so much cred here, but its works =) I think it went easy for town due to the "towny" incident. With that we suddenly had, in my mind, 4 confirmed town people with the mason claims. Thats 5 with myself. So a few town reads and we could lynch into the rest with a good outcome. My vote for jackal day 1 wasn't really because he looked scummy (he looked like jackal). It was just that he made it to the list of those who wasn't town. + Show Spoiler + On March 20 2012 05:20 Dirkzor wrote: Hokay.. I'm down with lynching any of the following due to the power of elemination: Sloosh xsksc Jackal Probulous TIPD Nemesis (in no particular order) Are there 3 or 4 scum this game? Or don't we know? We already have a bunch of "confirmed" townies. These combined with my town reads give me this list. I wasn't as active this game as i wanted to be. Spring came and so did a lot of social stuff. But none the less I shoot the last scum so I win =) The scum team got unlucky but also played really timid. You culd have avoided the jackal lynch without really looking super scummy. going into day 2 with a no lynch would make some chaos in town and much can happen even if you were the reason the no lynch happened. | ||
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March 24 2012 12:03 GMT
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Why did I push xsksc? Because he was one of the six guys left on my list. It was kinda tunnelling. My "read" wasn't really heartfelt. I just hadn't found anyone I found really scummy yet and I was sure that scum were on my list, so i just picked one guy and called him scum. Thats also why i could vote jackal without really thinking about it. I did not have the time I usually have to read the thread. I usually have 3 hours at work to just read the thread and filters and then post longer cases when I'm home. But weird workdays and social shit meant I had little time to the thread. I also think I relaxed more because sandro called me confirmed town :D I though about shooting sloosh N1 just because he seemed he would get lynched anyway. I decided against it because even if he was scum I wanted to see who would vote him and how the defence would be. I've been vig 2 times (and 1 time suicide bomber) and I always wait with my shot. I see no reason to shoot to early. If you're wrong and shoot a townie the best outcome is you confirm yourself. If you are right and shoot scum you take info away from the thread. All in all I think my scum reads were off but my deductive skills were on point. | ||
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