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On March 24 2012 00:27 Nisani201 wrote:
The problem with your case is that you don't understand that I had 2 scum reads. Yes, two. I didn't vote blue at the beginning because dirk looked like a better target, and because it looked like there would be more votes because of the discussion level.
If dirk was the better target and that's why you stuck to him, what did you say here then?
On March 22 2012 22:52 Nisani201 wrote:
Phagga read again. I was suspicious of bluelightz much before I voted him. As I explained earlier, I didn't vote for him before because I thought there were more votes on Dirk.
You flip and flop, because your explanation was so scummy...
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also, nisani you said you looked at voting thread. not the actual thread...so don't take that for an excuse.
whatever, I think he's scum. Sinani is prolly, too. One of those needs to die...I think it should be Nisani.
Won't be around for the next 10 or so hours. Do the right choice guys!
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On March 24 2012 07:41 Hassybaby wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2012 06:40 Maverick32x wrote:
Hey, I'm going to go with Sinani on this vote I'm pretty sure.
This is due to pretty much all the other reasons I stated before- PLUS, it appears that JJ isn't going to be killing him? Or am I missing something?
If Sinani is going to be killed- Then I'd vote for Hassybaby ... Pretty much TONS of posts.. and 0 content. There were quite a few people that jumped on the "bluelightz" early train- which I think represents some town tendencies.. Hassybaby had very little to say about the situation...
Actually, in looking at the filters, Hassybaby seems more scummy than Sinani.. but I'd lynch either of them
You want to know why I haven't been totally active in my reads and and comments? Because the mods are cheaters! ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/UWKFw.jpg) Yeah, I'm Yugi. Those cards are mine, and my wincon is to beat iGrok in this game. The downside is that the cards have an effect in the game, so I have to be very careful about what i play and when. Then iGrok plays that.... NO MORE BEING CAREFUL I GUESS
yea, I have some questions:
you claim town alignment right? what happens to you / us if you loose?
so this game is being played for like 6 real life days? how does this work?
any idea how the cards effect our game? why only one card per day?
also, I never played yu gi oh. this dragon looks badass though. I figure you're loosing?
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On March 24 2012 15:26 Nisani201 wrote:
Alright since it's very likely I'm going to die soon I'm going to claim.
I am the inventor. I can invent anything and give it to anyone, but I can't give to the same person twice. I gave myself the security camera n1. I won't say who I gave the puppet strings to but I can tell what they do. You target someone and all actions done against you are instead done to the puppet. You can also kill the puppet. It works just like the puppet master role in ptp2.
If you need more confirmation I will let someone else decide what I invent tonight.
hahaha  moooooore scumslips!
it ain't your lucky day bro. I got the puppet strings. Right at dawn. Actually one minute before dawn. So no way anyone passed it on.
this is another reason why I pushed you. But I didn't want to reveal it yet.
a) The ability is far from lame and creative. I imagine the real inventor inventing something different then a watcher/tracker thing.
b) There's no way someone gives the camera to Nisani night one and me the strings night two. Because I've been pushing Nisani ever since.
So Nisani. Why would you give me a powerful item, when I just made a case on you that night?
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I mean, if you're really an inventor. And you want to survive, why would you give an item which basically vigs to a player who posted:
On March 20 2012 03:50 Jayjay54 wrote:
I am not saying that dirk is looking good, but I say that there are better targets. C_C, Nisani, maybe adam. Some more.
On March 21 2012 03:27 Jayjay54 wrote:
Nisani underperforms as hell. Don't like that.
On March 21 2012 04:10 Jayjay54 wrote:
I think adam, nisani and blue are all reasonable targets.
On March 21 2012 08:47 Jayjay54 wrote:
So, I personally would like a different lynch choice. Right now, Nisani.
On March 21 2012 09:12 Jayjay54 wrote:
going to sleep now. and I want to stress again, dirk is not confirmed, but his role is townish and the case wasn't as good. I'd like to lynch somebody else. If you think dirk's filter says nothing, look at nisani's.
On March 22 2012 02:01 Jayjay54 wrote:
Why is Nisani being ignored?
On March 22 2012 02:17 Jayjay54 wrote:
nisani can play much better...which makes me think he is scum...
On March 23 2012 01:13 Jayjay54 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2012 00:26 Nisani201 wrote:On March 22 2012 00:01 Adam4167 wrote:Nisani, when I compare your filter in this game to your filter in NMM1 ( Nisani in NMM1), its like two different people. Nisani in NMM1 is also lurking and has a small filter, but you can see he genuinely cares about the direction the game is heading. He is also supremely confident in his reads. Now comparing that to this game, you seem disinterested, your reads are lacking in confidence, and you seem to be happy just to let things unfold however they do. Can we expect a case that requires some form of actual effort? such as: This CaseYou played well in NMM1, even if you were lynched by town. If that nisani doesn't come back soon, I will happily vote to see you swing. I am off to bed, its 1:30am here. Ill set my alarm so I am here before the lynch to put my vote somewhere meaningful. My play in this game is different for a lot of reasons. Mainly because I'm more active in mini games because the thread is shorter. Also, there's not much to talk about this game-- as I've mentioned earlier, this is pretty much a repeat of Day 1 because it's impossible to draw information from Drazerk's lynch. Recently I've been trying to avoid analyses in big games because most of them suffer from confirmation bias; it's very easy to take anyone's filter and twist what they say to get an analysis (read TL Mafia XLII if you want to see a game where this happened a lot). On Dirk: he's posted his read, which is what I was looking for before, but the analysis seems butchered like I mentioned above and it seems like he picked a random filter and pointed at random flaws in it. I'm going to trust that Palmar revealed himself by accident and it wasn't a trick to get us to pull votes off of him. I'll keep my vote on him for now, but I'd like to see a votecount to see if a switch to Bluelightz is still viable. I would be ok with lynching him instead of Dirk. At that time the vote count was: Lightz 5 Dirk 3 (including himself and Sinani) Kenpachi 2 Kita 1 Ghost 1 Wiggles 1 When Nisani voted he tied the vote count 2-2. He MUST have seen that this is a close one. You make a big post like that and ask for a vote count? I want you guys to look at the voting thread around 00:00 march 22. Just take a brief glimps, 10 seconds, you immediately see that the vote is nowhere near decided. What you don’t see is a stong mayority for dirk. The last 5 votes at that time were NOT dirk. This is bullshit. You mention that the only reason that you don’t voteswitch is that you don’t know if a switch is viable? With like 10 hours to go? This is already not towny. And you take the time and make a larger post like you did (which took at least 5 mins to write) and never mind to justify your reason by looking at the voting thread for 10 seconds? Really? I don’t buy it. You just want to avoid lynching your GF. Your posts have been oneliners all over the place, your accusations are week. Your answer to me calling you a vig target is “Why am I a target” and then you disappear again? You say you are suspicious of lightz early on? Show nested quote +On March 21 2012 09:33 Nisani201 wrote:
Kenpachi you are right. Bluelightz does not look town either. And in the past, I've found that chainsawing Sinani has been really useful for finding scum so he goes on my scum list.
I still want to lynch Dirk though. This is the only time you mention him. That’s randomly dropping a name. That’s not pushing or anything. No one even read that. The last line is your real intention. Remember this post if I die tonight. Nisani needs to be vigged or lynched.
On March 23 2012 01:44 Jayjay54 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2012 01:40 Nisani201 wrote:
Just because I wanted to lynch Dirk more than Bluelightz doesn't mean I'm scum. I'm not trying to take credit for the Bluelightz lynch. Would you still think I were scum if I had kept my vote on Dirk? I wanted to kill you before and now I caught you lying. Your defense on somebody else's post on you was something like I was suspicious of blue before, so you try to get towncreds for that. yes of course, I'd still think you're scum, if you had your vote on dirk. But the excuse for not voting lightz was a blunt lie and that's why I am even more certain now.
^^ both posts BEFORE I got the item.
There are like 10 posts in which I mention that Nisani is a priority to me. Tell me guys, is that the one. you give your powerful item WITH VIG ability to? No? Damn right, he's (once more) lying!
you, sir, are no inventor. you just happen to have a portal gun and used it on me.
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On March 24 2012 20:41 Adam4167 wrote:
OK. If Nisani is not the inventor, where did the security camera go that was created on night 1? I find it hard to believe the Inventor gave him the camera if he himself was not the Inventor. I'm trying to find any mention of it, but all I can see is Velinath purchasing one off the black-market and giving it to ghost.
I don't know, maybe given to BH. Do you really think Nisani would give his item to me?
where are palmar and foolishness btw?
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ok let's make this simple:
Nisani, I already claimed, I have the strings. Did you give them to me? If so, why? Weren't you afraid, I might use them on you?
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On March 24 2012 21:15 Adam4167 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2012 20:44 Jayjay54 wrote:On March 24 2012 20:41 Adam4167 wrote:
OK. If Nisani is not the inventor, where did the security camera go that was created on night 1? I find it hard to believe the Inventor gave him the camera if he himself was not the Inventor. I'm trying to find any mention of it, but all I can see is Velinath purchasing one off the black-market and giving it to ghost.
I don't know, maybe given to BH. Do you really think Nisani would give his item to me? where are palmar and foolishness btw? Yeah, I don't get that one. Hes never called you scum, but surely there are better options when it comes to giving someone a gun then the guy that's campaigning for your death. As zelblade said, it really makes no sense regardless of alignment. I don't know where the hell everyone has disappeared to. The activity level has been non-existent today. The thought that we actually have close to TWENTY people still in this game is mind-boggling. I can only take your word on the stuff Dirk is saying in the QT. As it looks from an outsiders perspective, hes made one post today consisting of 4 lines and a vote. I don't like that.
Well, it makes no sense from either perspective if he'd actually be an inventor. If there's another inventor out there, than this is just a fakeclaim to make sure he doesn't get lynched.
Also, if you invent an item for yourself, you don't make it as weak as a watcher / tracker thing. You at least give it DT power or hell you combine stuff! That's the worst invention for yourself ever.
This whole story is just fake. Just like the reason for not voting lightz was fake. He's scum.
Dirk has disappeared from the QT after I was invited. 2 posts after that. He talked quite a bit with BH, though.
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On March 25 2012 00:33 Nisani201 wrote:
Alright mementos analysis is the biggest ever but I won't respond to it now because I'm on my phone.
Yes I gave the strings to jayjay on purpose, because he has the case on me. If I had given them to someone else and they had claimed an item, jay would think that that person was lying.
It's absurd to think that I was able to correctly redirect those items two nights in a row. If you need anymore confirmation, as I said, I'll invent whatever you want tonight.
I'd much rather not lynch Sinani since he's the guy we're supposed to lynch when there aren't any other candidates. I'll look into it once I'm off my phone.
wait what? you give it to the person who can might kill you just because the one person who already did make a case on you might think you lie? I don't even...
he simply checked me with the portal, because I pushed him really hard. If I had a portal gun, that's what I would do.
forumite: how are you going to figure out who gets the item? This role is, in fact, not as easy to control.
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On March 25 2012 05:44 Foolishness wrote:
The votes are close, we are in a tough spot.
To lynch someone, we must take a shot.
People are dying very fast
who knows how long we'll last.
It is much better to lynch than it is to not!
that doesn't even make sense, there are just two candidates, a no lynch is not possible, if I am not mistaken...
hassy has double vote, good for him!
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also I can't believe that we leave Nisani alive after the bilion lies he did. His explanation for giving me the strings was so ridiculous, why would anyone believe that? Like seriously? He is NOT the inventor. He lied about other stuff as well and his defense posts actually don't explain anything.
The case against Sinani is pretty thin in comparison...
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On March 25 2012 05:53 Nisani201 wrote:
I stand by my explanation. I gave it to you so I could confirm to you that I am the inventor.
but why me? why not give it to someone else you got a townread on? This might not convince me, but certainly all the others.
Actually I'd be a lot more convinced if I heard it from someone else.
Now it looks as if you checked me out with a portal gun and then claimed...
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also why didn't you invent a much stronger item for yourself?
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On March 25 2012 06:19 Nisani201 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2012 05:55 Jayjay54 wrote:On March 25 2012 05:53 Nisani201 wrote:
I stand by my explanation. I gave it to you so I could confirm to you that I am the inventor. but why me? why not give it to someone else you got a townread on? This might not convince me, but certainly all the others. Actually I'd be a lot more convinced if I heard it from someone else. Now it looks as if you checked me out with a portal gun and then claimed... You think that I correctly guessed who the inventor target was-- two nights in a row, without even knowing that an inventor was in the game?
every day post contained "X was invented" which is why everyone knows there's an inventor.
you didn't guess the first one, you either claim to be it yourself (the scum alternative would be, the someone on your team got it or you killed the one who got it...), you didn't guess mine either, it was the portal gun. At least that's what I believe. seems like you'll pull through though. let's see what you do at night.
also, a scum inventor is (at least do scum wiki) a common variation of the role. but I don't think that's the case here, I wouldn't got the item, if he was a real inventor, regardless of alignment.
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On March 25 2012 05:50 Hassybaby wrote:
I had to use it. One downside is that once I play a monster, any use it has must be done that day.
Glad people are here though, but where'd DirkPalmar disappeared to?
what did your first card do? the celtic guardian?
also, if you're town, please say more than "I think the x lynch is fine" or " I agree with lynch x" that's not helpfull...
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^^ that last sentence was to everyone and not to hassy...
why is nobody here to discuss 
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On March 25 2012 07:19 Adam4167 wrote:
At a guess, Hassy and the Celtic Guardian are responsible for the D1 no flip.
The smarter play here is to lynch Sinani. Nisani can attempt to prove his role overnight. If he fails at that, we have our day 2 lynch all sorted.
Sinani has done nothing this whole game. After being shot by your 'blast from the past' he posts 'still alive', taunting you that hes still here. He has produced nothing of worth, and has shown no indication that that is going to change any time soon.
On the other hand, Nisani was producing a similar effort, so we prodded him, and he brought up a case on ghost. At least hes given us something. I cant be sure that inventor is a town role, but lets give him the chance to use it in a town way overnight, then deal with him tomorrow if he does not.
celtic guardian being the janitor is actually a valid assumption. interesting.
I guess that's reasonable. That's mostly what's going to happen. Sinani is a lurker and especially his few post d1 looked bad (=> his "reaction test was ridiculous) and conveyed insecurity. So I am fine. Still think Nisani is lying on various points and I'll be very watching the inventor thing very closely. This will be interesting. Leaving my vote as a statement since a no lynch won't occur...
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well, dirk is about to be modkilled. that'll be interesting, too.
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hmm. I was afraid of that.
also, way to go palmar, dropping your vote, posting nothing at all and not using the qt...if you're town, you're not really helpful.
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