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On March 21 2012 08:41 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2012 08:37 Jayjay54 wrote:On March 21 2012 08:31 Adam4167 wrote:On March 21 2012 08:17 Jayjay54 wrote:On March 21 2012 08:09 Adam4167 wrote:On March 21 2012 07:48 Jayjay54 wrote:On March 21 2012 07:34 Adam4167 wrote:I care here. I am posting my reads. I just do not feel the need to contribute in discussion that I deem pointless. I don't enjoy reading a 10 page filter, and I doubt anyone else would want to read mine if it got that large, either. I am not 'refusing to correct it', I am correcting it by deeming it all irrelevant and posting my reads instead, something everyone should be doing. Look at the tense of my section on Foolishness. I am fully aware that he is dead. I am making the argument that we should follow through on his reads because they are credible regardless of his alignment. The sarcasm is wholly unnecessary. You need to go back and reread Foolishness filter. He doesn't 'post one single read', he also says that Velinath is town because he has nothing to hide and that Zelblade should have a run-in with a vig. On March 21 2012 04:10 Jayjay54 wrote:
I think adam, nisani and blue are all reasonable targets.
I find it interesting, however, that I've jumped to your top 3 scum reads for the reason of 'he doesn't care'. If that is your definition of scum this game, then you've got your work cut out for you, there are plenty of people that fit that bill. I am not one of them. your election post said that you are willing to put in 12 hours to be a hero. Well, you didn't do anything (maybe some light pressure on lightz yay). You don't post your reads, you say you want to sheep forumite's (Your post is still a little confusing, whatever). I just think, you play differently this game. And I posted it already on Sunday. The thing is that you post nothing which isn't approved by town. Dirk and Lights are the targets which can be pushed while blending in. If you'd die right now, I probably wouldn't remember a single of you push posts. Also, It was not all of a sudden. I already called you a vig target yesterday along with Nisani and C_C, bro. I am still willing to put in 12 hours a day, just not discussing pointless shit. I posted my small read on Dirk, and it was only small because his filter is tiny and there is zero substance in it. I've asked him for more content, which is yet to materialize, so I can make a better call. I say I want to sheep Foolishness, for good reasons, reasons I have outlined. I post whatever I feel is right. If that happens to be town consensus, then I guess town is actually playing smart for once. I never said your read on me happened 'all of a sudden', I was attacking the reasoning, saying it applied to a majority of the players in this game. The difference between you and some other lurkers is, that I have seen you play a solid game in AC. This time you don't. I can as easily ask you why dirk above all lurkers. He has at least two posts where he states stuff which isn't popular at that time, even though it might be wrong. he was the second to vote draz, this fluff post had actual relevance at that point. And his concerns about foolishness were valid as well. You on the other hand (again) have not posted a single post actually contributing IMO. BTW: The same applies to Nisani (who had a horrific "defense" as well, while you to your point actually are in here and talk to me) I am not targeting Dirk because he is a lurker, nor do I use that word to describe him once. I am targeting him because he has a filter with zero content, his first post was waffly and his post aimed at Grack was not the reaction id expect from a townie. You seem pretty interested in discrediting anything I say. Why is that? I discredited anyone who sheeped that foolishness dirk push. But I repeat myself here. Let's stop this now, it's getting town nowhere... Give me What makes you think that people who voted for dirk are scummy? Why are you convinced he is town? Drazerk was an obvious liar with no teammates; I don't see why scum wouldn't want to sheep that vote.
calling people out for sheeping and bad logic <> calling people scum
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and before I get a lot of bullshit for defending dirk.
I defended dirk when I read foolishness case, because it took a post straight out of content.
Now, I am defending him, because I know stuff about his role which is a semi-strong - strong towntell.
So, I personally would like a different lynch choice. Right now, Nisani.
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@david: I know that he has an ability which normally belongs to town. It is not sure though. There are other possibilites.
@deadmanwalking: what questions?
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On March 21 2012 09:00 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2012 08:47 Jayjay54 wrote:
and before I get a lot of bullshit for defending dirk.
I defended dirk when I read foolishness case, because it took a post straight out of content.
Now, I am defending him, because I know stuff about his role which is a semi-strong - strong towntell.
So, I personally would like a different lynch choice. Right now, Nisani. Well now I'm intrigued. The way you said that makes it sound like you found something out over the night but you didn't want me to shoot him during the night before any night action would have returned.
are you actually reading my post? I posted exactly why I defended him yesterday. The foolishness case everyone was so obsessed about was not as good. He even said so himself:
On March 19 2012 04:36 Foolishness wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2012 04:12 Jayjay54 wrote:On March 19 2012 04:02 Foolishness wrote:
But there's another thing I must restate,
A defense from Dirk, I still await.
He made one post,
he thinks he can coast?
Watch him closely over the next few dates. hey rhyming bro, why dirk over all the other lurkers? IMO his single post actually made sense at the time. so why pick him over C_C or kita or whatever who had no single sensible post. As I said, his post was one giant ball of fluff To read it, on my eyes, it was certainly rough. Perhaps my suspicion was merely intuition. He can live another day before we put on the cuffs.
That had nothing to do with the role.
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going to sleep now. and I want to stress again, dirk is not confirmed, but his role is townish and the case wasn't as good. I'd like to lynch somebody else. If you think dirk's filter says nothing, look at nisani's.
good night...
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On March 21 2012 20:39 phagga wrote:
@Jayjay, you look pretty townish to me, but you understand that you are stretching the credibility people give you? First you say Sinani206 will die, you just can't tell when, but therefore we should ignore him. Then you come and claim Dirks abilitities look townish. So you just took two of the more favoured lynch candidates off the chopping block, and there is no way for us to verify your claims.
I am aware of that. There's not much I can do, though. I would have never announced my shot, but there was a misunderstanding in my role pm. If you look at my filter, you'll see how I am among the first persons to push him. Than he *magically* disappears from my list on night 1 (I had already used my ability then). This makes no sense as scum, does it?
I am sorry, but other than that you'll have to take my word. I won't be lynched today and there will probably be better candidates the next day. And afterwards, he will have flipped.
And it's too bad that I try to take away a lynch candidate literally EVERYBODY want kill for now, but that doesn't mean it's bad for town.
To clarify (I don't everyone to ask me for checks next day), I AM not a detective or sorts. There's a different mechanic, why I know one of Palmar's abilities. I am definitely not willing
On March 21 2012 22:55 blubbdavid wrote:
And JJ shooting someone who just didn't want to die also happened in Kaller o_O
The difference is that I didn't really shoot him. It's a "blast from the past". You'll notice the flavour. I used my ability and he'll have a blast in the future. I am NOT claiming, he is untouchable or anything. He is just marked for death and can't do anything about it.
I'll look into Ghost again, he is pretty fluffy. For now, I'll vote bluelightz for the sole reason that I don't want to kill Palmar right now.
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On March 22 2012 01:48 kitaman27 wrote:
I also dislike ghost_403 as a lynch candidate today. I don't think there is a very good case at all for him to be considered.
considering this a mayority lynch, there are just two candidates right now, imo...
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On March 22 2012 01:48 kitaman27 wrote:
I also dislike ghost_403 as a lynch candidate today. I don't think there is a very good case at all for him to be considered.
well, if you look through his filter, it is all cotton candy. He literally posts no single read. It's fluff.
then again, I learned he is a new player...
memmtoss, david, mav and shrubbles too I think. This doesn't make things easier...
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On March 22 2012 01:55 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2012 22:16 Palmar wrote:
Posting without fear is actually one of the strongest towntells. But there is a difference between being fearless and feigning fearlessness. The worst thing for scum to do is to be in the spotlight, to be the ones leading lynches, to have lots of attention on them by posting controversial and aggravating stuff.
The best thing is to quietly go along with the flow of the game as long as it suits the, for an example, re-read my case on kitaman, that's hardcore posting without any intention of pushing his lynch.
What makes you think Kita is town? What makes anyone think Kita is town?
About Grackaroni I'm just not sure. It'd be incredibly stupid to shoot me like he threatened, but it seems like an odd mafia gambit to announce one of their hits, especially since we have no clue how many night hits mafia has. I went after him because I wanted to make sure he couldn't shoot me, I still stand by that notion, when I flip town, if some asshole claims to have shot me, that asshole is almost guaranteed to be scum. But yeah, it still doesn't fit with how I'd expect mafia to play to threaten/claim that shot. So I'm not sure on his alignment.
I very much like the fact JJ54 says sinani206 will flip. He is one guy I feel strongly is scum. JJ54 looks very town to me.
lazy scum Palmar pretending to be a new player Were lynching you
so you ignore completely ignore his ability?
I might add that his abilty is probably town favoured regardless of his alignment.
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On March 22 2012 01:59 kitaman27 wrote:
Why isn't anyone even willing to consider Wiggles. If people think he is town, please at least say so and explain why. He is being ignored right now.
Why is Nisani being ignored?
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On March 22 2012 02:07 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2012 01:59 Jayjay54 wrote:On March 22 2012 01:55 Grackaroni wrote:On March 21 2012 22:16 Palmar wrote:
Posting without fear is actually one of the strongest towntells. But there is a difference between being fearless and feigning fearlessness. The worst thing for scum to do is to be in the spotlight, to be the ones leading lynches, to have lots of attention on them by posting controversial and aggravating stuff.
The best thing is to quietly go along with the flow of the game as long as it suits the, for an example, re-read my case on kitaman, that's hardcore posting without any intention of pushing his lynch.
What makes you think Kita is town? What makes anyone think Kita is town?
About Grackaroni I'm just not sure. It'd be incredibly stupid to shoot me like he threatened, but it seems like an odd mafia gambit to announce one of their hits, especially since we have no clue how many night hits mafia has. I went after him because I wanted to make sure he couldn't shoot me, I still stand by that notion, when I flip town, if some asshole claims to have shot me, that asshole is almost guaranteed to be scum. But yeah, it still doesn't fit with how I'd expect mafia to play to threaten/claim that shot. So I'm not sure on his alignment.
I very much like the fact JJ54 says sinani206 will flip. He is one guy I feel strongly is scum. JJ54 looks very town to me.
lazy scum Palmar pretending to be a new player Were lynching you so you ignore completely ignore his ability? I might add that his abilty is probably town favoured regardless of his alignment. Could you clarify what you are talking about? I'm not seeing any description of an ability in his filter. Show nested quote +On March 22 2012 02:01 Jayjay54 wrote:On March 22 2012 01:59 kitaman27 wrote:
Why isn't anyone even willing to consider Wiggles. If people think he is town, please at least say so and explain why. He is being ignored right now. Why is Nisani being ignored? Not sure, his posts have all been mostly spam and he is going to be a headache to deal with during late game if he doesn't change his play.
yea, I didn't really put that well. I say his role is good and town favoured regardless of alignment, which is why I want him to be alive.
nisani can play much better...which makes me think he is scum...
and your first case on wiggles was just bad reasoning...he is not looking exactly strong, but he has at least put a little effort in it. there are better targets tbh.
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On March 22 2012 02:19 Grackaroni wrote:
Did you see the way he walked into the thread 1/2 way through the day, offered nothing new to the discussion, jumped on the obvious 3rd party bandwagon, then disappeared again.
See? This is the foolishness case. It is wrong!
He was the second player after me to vote Drazek. He didn't join the bandwagon. He started it with me.
That post at that time was completely appropriate. He voted Draz for the right reasons way earlier than most of you guys.
I don't know why everyone thinks that this post didn't add anything...
This is what happens when you take posts out of context.
Also palmar: it's sad that I have to defend you here, because you don't care.
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On March 22 2012 02:31 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2012 02:25 Jayjay54 wrote:On March 22 2012 02:19 Grackaroni wrote:
Did you see the way he walked into the thread 1/2 way through the day, offered nothing new to the discussion, jumped on the obvious 3rd party bandwagon, then disappeared again.
See? This is the foolishness case. It is wrong! He was the second player after me to vote Drazek. He didn't join the bandwagon. He started it with me. That post at that time was completely appropriate. He voted Draz for the right reasons way earlier than most of you guys. I don't know why everyone thinks that this post didn't add anything... This is what happens when you take posts out of context. Also palmar: it's sad that I have to defend you here, because you don't care. I don't care if he was the 2nd person on the bandwagon of a claimed 3rd party, he didn't give a shit about scumhunting. If you think he doesn't care then there's probably a reason for that. I was actually hoping that Palmar would be in this game to help lead the town, not anymore.
It is kind of obvious to anyone that he doesn't really care about this game.
however, like I said, his posts about draz and foolishness were both completely understandable to me. And he actually did stuff other than sheeping...Even if I don't agree with the kita case, he still at least provides stuff others don't.
And again, his ability is townish and I want to keep him around.
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yes I know stuff about his role, I posted that like three times now.
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On March 22 2012 03:17 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2012 02:50 Jayjay54 wrote:
yes I know stuff about his role, I posted that like three times now. I'm asking you to clarify how, if you're going to use it to soft defend him. I'm heading out to a Sabres game so I won't be around for the lynch tonight. -_-
a softdefend is all I can offer you. even, if you knew his entire abilities, you still can't know his alignment.
I am not claiming to know his alignment, but his ability is kinda townish.
I also believe that his role is townfavoured regardless of his actual alignment...
If you don't believe me, what would be the use of giving you all the indicators. I might be lying afterall. This doesn't render me more believable than I am now, but scum would def know all the information too and can play accordingly (obv).
no, I won't give you any more than this, I probably already gave away too much.
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On March 22 2012 08:13 Companion Cube wrote:Hello.
aaaaaw <3
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also, nice we lynched the godfather. what I find interesting is that the scum team seems to be aperture themed.
So I guess the burned to death thing might refer to the incinerator at the end of portal 1.
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On March 22 2012 08:21 Companion Cube wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2012 08:15 Mr. Wiggles wrote:On March 22 2012 08:14 Jayjay54 wrote:On March 22 2012 08:13 Companion Cube wrote:Hello. aaaaaw <3 Friend? I like making friends. jayjay can be my friend. You can be too. There is also people here who are not our friends. We should watch out for them.
yaaaay! happiness!
@grack, my kills take a while, they're called blast from the past for a reason :D
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On March 22 2012 08:34 Hassybaby wrote:
## Throw Companion Cube in Aperture Science Emergency Intelligence Incinerator
I'm so sorry!
you are kidding right?
expect a policy-blast-from-the-past soon
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On March 22 2012 08:39 Companion Cube wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2012 08:34 Hassybaby wrote:
## Throw Companion Cube in Aperture Science Emergency Intelligence Incinerator
I'm so sorry! Sorry will never repair the rift you have decided to tear between us. We are not friends.
don't worry cube, I got your back <3
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