On March 19 2012 09:15 willz22912 wrote:
Gonzaw, since you're around, do you have a specific question you want me to answer? You put me in your post but you don't say what you want from me. If you want a general read on everyone, I came in late as a replacement and I didn't have any interaction with anyone to build reads on. Also do you realize that there are 29 other people still playing this game?
It's exactly for that reason. You came in late so you need to contribute for all those hours lost, and for all those "interactions" you couldn't have made.
Just read the thread and filters and give me your "not null" opinion on people, and give me your thoughts on Lanaia and Zephird, and anything else you find interesting.
Also why should Drazerk be banned? He wasn't playing against his win-con, he wins with any faction, he just needs to have another 3rd party dead first. I believe his reasoning on shooting VE as a strong player, and everything else snowballed because he claimed when he didn't have to.
I assumed he lost when he died.
If he couldn't get Kanti killed before being lynched, then he was going to lose.
However if what he said was true, then he would be going to lose, but tried to help another faction before dying, which wouldn't have anything to do with his win-con since he would already be going to lose.
Anyways, perhaps he can still win if he's dead, the moment Kanti dies.
However, that makes his role so easy. He can do whatever he wants, get lynched, get killed, etc; and he will win 100% of the time unless Kanti lives at endgame. That seems VERY unbalanced, so I assume he has to live to win as well (at least until Kanti dies).
Do you want the easy cases? How hard is it to point out the other lurkers and say "look at them" Dirk, Kita, CC, Sinani, etc. Do you really think putting pressure on me wouldn't be easily deflected by pointing to the other lurkers? If you compare my posts to theirs you can at least see I've contributed with longer responses then one sentence.
I'm putting pressure on everybody, not just you.
Also, since making "cases" against lurkers (at least by N1) isn't that helpful, I'd say I prefer your thoughts on the more active people
Regarding you Gonzaw, do you not fear for your life by being the most active poster? If you keep asking everyone questions and you are personally keeping track of everyone, why wouldn't you be the first one killed this night? Do you think scum have already found out blue roles, I don't think so. If you are town, you should back off and not present yourself as a target with your activity. If you are scum, you would just keep posting because you know you won't be a target. Do you have any response to this logic?
Why would I fear for my life?
Great, I'd like to play this game some more time, but if scum decide to shoot me, well, what can I do?
I won't back off and play sub-optimally just to "convince" scum not to kill me.
Also, perhaps I could get some medic protection (medics WIFOM about it), or not, so it wouldn't be too bad in the end if that happens (a scum KP would be wasted).
About Velinath (again):
First, I expect the mods to answer to Velinath about what he can reveal or not.
Just in case Velinath lies to us, I'll ask too:
Are elected roles allowed to reveal ALL information from their elected role?Is Velinath allowed to reveal ALL information about his Wheatley role?Second, I expect Velinath to tell us, right before the deadline, what item he will create and who he will give it too.
Then, on Day 2, I want that player to confirm that he got that exact item. This will confirm Velinath's ability, or at least part of it.
Third, I expect Velinath to follow town consensus regarding what he invents, and if the situation arises and he's under suspicion, he SHOULD repeat the same step from the second point I mentioned (i.e reveal what item he's making and who he's giving it to before the deadline).
However, I'd want you to truthfully answer us this question:
Are you really Planar Dragon?If you are 3rd party, and depending on your win-conditions, we could make a deal with you. I see you somewhat care about this game, so I don't see you doing the retarded things Drazerk did if you were indeed 3rd party.
For instance, you give us ALL info about your role, about the Wheatly role, etc; and maybe we keep you medic-protected and try to fullfill your win condition (if it's not an anti-town one, for instance like Drazerk's one, killing another 3rd party) if you play along.
I gave Drazerk this option, and the fool refused it, so if you are 3rd party I'm giving it to you as well.
If you do not do this, and you are in fact 3rd party, you risk dying soon, considering a lot of people are doubting you already because of Drazerk's claim, and because of your powerful Wheatley abilities.