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On March 21 2012 08:47 Jayjay54 wrote:
and before I get a lot of bullshit for defending dirk.
I defended dirk when I read foolishness case, because it took a post straight out of content.
Now, I am defending him, because I know stuff about his role which is a semi-strong - strong towntell.
So, I personally would like a different lynch choice. Right now, Nisani.
Well now I'm intrigued. The way you said that makes it sound like you found something out over the night but you didn't want me to shoot him during the night before any night action would have returned.
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On March 21 2012 09:03 Jayjay54 wrote:
@david: I know that he has an ability which normally belongs to town. It is not sure though. There are other possibilites.
@deadmanwalking: what questions?
Sinani wants to know when hes going to die lol
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I'm town. I didn't think there was a such thing as a 4th party role. (maybe I'm wrong?)
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@Lanaia :
I regret to inform you, but Gonzaw is dead.
You should pretend, to be reading the thread.
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On March 21 2012 09:12 Jayjay54 wrote:
going to sleep now. and I want to stress again, dirk is not confirmed, but his role is townish and the case wasn't as good. I'd like to lynch somebody else. If you think dirk's filter says nothing, look at nisani's.
good night...
I think we should be strongly considering people's previous play.
Take Lanaia here for an example :
On March 21 2012 09:11 Lanaia wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2012 08:18 ghost_403 wrote:
@lanaia: I really want to know who you think is scum. Hard mode: Answer anyone other than Dirk. Again, really sorry for being away. I dunno, looking at blue really makes me feel uneasy. In particular: Show nested quote +On March 18 2012 17:51 Bluelightz wrote:
Seriously Dirk, step up, like others said your analysis post is fluffy as derp and your not helping town in any way. I mean really, this looks like coaching or something, but I don't know why they'd do that here rather than private.
I'm really not liking gonzaw's lists and will be keeping an eye on him. There was someone else I intended to look more closely at but I seem to have forgotten who. Oh right, zelblade. I'm not liking zelblade, but I think i'm reading too much into blazinghand's read on him.
Also srbubbles is taking things far more seriously than needed, but that probably isn't indicative of anything.
All of her reads in this post are completely wishy-washy. If it was another player I would assume that she was scum, but I know that Lanaia often is wishy-washy so it's not a sure tell on her alignment.
If I knew who Dirk was it might help me a lot, but if he was playing when foolishness' game from 8 months ago was going on which is what i suspect than he should be a pretty solid veteran. He has not been playing like a solid veteran.
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I looked through one of Bluelightz recent games (Mr. Wiggles mini mafia 2) and it seemed like he's gotten a little bit better from the games I'm used to playing with him. In that game by the end he was able to correctly identify the scum team, even though his cases in that were always focused on the most useless player.
In this game he looks like the Bluelightz that I'm used to seeing. he's putting even less effort into this game than usual and he has not even given us his usual list of the players in the game with a read of leaning town, null, and occasionally scum. Someone also mentioned that he was posting in a different game but did not come into the thread to vote. I would not oppose lynching BL.
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On March 21 2012 10:50 Dirk Hardpec wrote:
I'm not scum.
Who are you?
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Well... Now that I've realized I'm most likely never going to get another lemon.
Anybody else with a similar role to my own stuck with 1/2 a KP please come out in thread so we can combine our KP and get a day-vig off. There's no reason not to, there's quite a few players I think would be worthy of a vig shot.
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On March 21 2012 15:08 kitaman27 wrote:
I'll give you a lemon if I can choose the target.
Depends, who's the target?
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On March 21 2012 15:10 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2012 15:08 kitaman27 wrote:
I'll give you a lemon if I can choose the target. Depends, who's the target?
I'm not shooting Wiggles for you. (assuming you're going to say that)
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On March 21 2012 15:11 kitaman27 wrote:
How does your role work, you just get a day vig for every 2 lemons that are given to you?
That doesn't sound like a town role.
I'm pretty sure that multiple people have a role like this involving lemons.
Hassybaby for example immediately knew I wanted the lemons for a vig shot.
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On March 21 2012 15:14 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2012 15:13 Grackaroni wrote:On March 21 2012 15:11 kitaman27 wrote:
How does your role work, you just get a day vig for every 2 lemons that are given to you?
That doesn't sound like a town role. I'm pretty sure that multiple people have a role like this involving lemons. Hassybaby for example immediately knew I wanted the lemons for a vig shot. So how does it work? 2 lemons = day vig shot? Hassy, what would you be able to do if I gave you my lemon instead?
lemons take one phase to develop
I could shoot during day/night
If you gave me a lemon I wouldn't be able to day-vig today, if there was somebody else with 1/2 a KP that would work with me than I don't have to wait the extra phase to shoot.
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Now back to you, who were you going to shoot?
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@Kitaman :Am I correct in saying that the reason you think Wiggles is scum is because he is a veteran and that he has been under-performing by not giving strong reads? (as opposed to newer players in here who are also not giving reads)
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On March 21 2012 16:33 zelblade wrote:
If bluelightz has rolled scum before can someone point me to it?
Bluelightz was scum in student mafia but he replaced in for hassybaby and it was his first game.
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On March 21 2012 16:41 zelblade wrote:
Oh ok thanks I'll take a look when I get home.
And grack, any particular reason to believe that others have 0.5 kp besides hassy mentioning lemons? He could easily need them for something else. Seems weird to claim now...?
I guess it's more of a hope combined with the fact that I wasn't going to get another one.
Cyber Cheese also might have understood that the lemons would be used as a vig shot.
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On March 21 2012 22:16 Palmar wrote:
Posting without fear is actually one of the strongest towntells. But there is a difference between being fearless and feigning fearlessness. The worst thing for scum to do is to be in the spotlight, to be the ones leading lynches, to have lots of attention on them by posting controversial and aggravating stuff.
The best thing is to quietly go along with the flow of the game as long as it suits the, for an example, re-read my case on kitaman, that's hardcore posting without any intention of pushing his lynch.
What makes you think Kita is town? What makes anyone think Kita is town?
About Grackaroni I'm just not sure. It'd be incredibly stupid to shoot me like he threatened, but it seems like an odd mafia gambit to announce one of their hits, especially since we have no clue how many night hits mafia has. I went after him because I wanted to make sure he couldn't shoot me, I still stand by that notion, when I flip town, if some asshole claims to have shot me, that asshole is almost guaranteed to be scum. But yeah, it still doesn't fit with how I'd expect mafia to play to threaten/claim that shot. So I'm not sure on his alignment.
I very much like the fact JJ54 says sinani206 will flip. He is one guy I feel strongly is scum. JJ54 looks very town to me.
lazy scum Palmar pretending to be a new player
Were lynching you
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On March 22 2012 01:59 Jayjay54 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2012 01:55 Grackaroni wrote:On March 21 2012 22:16 Palmar wrote:
Posting without fear is actually one of the strongest towntells. But there is a difference between being fearless and feigning fearlessness. The worst thing for scum to do is to be in the spotlight, to be the ones leading lynches, to have lots of attention on them by posting controversial and aggravating stuff.
The best thing is to quietly go along with the flow of the game as long as it suits the, for an example, re-read my case on kitaman, that's hardcore posting without any intention of pushing his lynch.
What makes you think Kita is town? What makes anyone think Kita is town?
About Grackaroni I'm just not sure. It'd be incredibly stupid to shoot me like he threatened, but it seems like an odd mafia gambit to announce one of their hits, especially since we have no clue how many night hits mafia has. I went after him because I wanted to make sure he couldn't shoot me, I still stand by that notion, when I flip town, if some asshole claims to have shot me, that asshole is almost guaranteed to be scum. But yeah, it still doesn't fit with how I'd expect mafia to play to threaten/claim that shot. So I'm not sure on his alignment.
I very much like the fact JJ54 says sinani206 will flip. He is one guy I feel strongly is scum. JJ54 looks very town to me.
lazy scum Palmar pretending to be a new player Were lynching you so you ignore completely ignore his ability? I might add that his abilty is probably town favoured regardless of his alignment.
I haven't read yet. I just saw his name and got excited.
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On March 21 2012 23:55 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2012 15:39 Grackaroni wrote:
@Kitaman :Am I correct in saying that the reason you think Wiggles is scum is because he is a veteran and that he has been under-performing by not giving strong reads? (as opposed to newer players in here who are also not giving reads) Yes.
Now, I would rather lynch Palmar because he is a massively underperforming smurfing veteran. The only reads he gave us before I called him out a bunch of times as a veteran were omguses, and he only showed up in the thread when he wanted to defend himself.
Did you see the way he walked into the thread 1/2 way through the day, offered nothing new to the discussion, jumped on the obvious 3rd party bandwagon, then disappeared again. This seems like Palmar's scum laziness to the max, only really starting to give off reads after I make it clear that he's not a new player.
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On March 22 2012 02:25 Jayjay54 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2012 02:19 Grackaroni wrote:
Did you see the way he walked into the thread 1/2 way through the day, offered nothing new to the discussion, jumped on the obvious 3rd party bandwagon, then disappeared again.
See? This is the foolishness case. It is wrong! He was the second player after me to vote Drazek. He didn't join the bandwagon. He started it with me. That post at that time was completely appropriate. He voted Draz for the right reasons way earlier than most of you guys. I don't know why everyone thinks that this post didn't add anything... This is what happens when you take posts out of context. Also palmar: it's sad that I have to defend you here, because you don't care.
I don't care if he was the 2nd person on the bandwagon of a claimed 3rd party, he didn't give a shit about scumhunting.
If you think he doesn't care then there's probably a reason for that.
I was actually hoping that Palmar would be in this game to help lead the town, not anymore.
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