If you do change cores, don't tell us. It would be better to keep the scum guessing which power you have at the moment.

I agree with phagga that tonight's invention should be something to tell us how many threats to the town are still in this game. I would word it that way so that we can distinguish between greater powers and greater powers aligned with the town, should those indeed exist.

ghost_403

United States1825 Posts

March 28 2012 14:29 GMT

#2097

@JJ: The problem with that is there aren't a lot of not townies with the same alignment left in the game. We have one or two cell, one or two scum, and up to three third parties left. Chances of hitting two people with the same alignment is pretty low.

ghost_403

United States1825 Posts

March 28 2012 14:45 GMT

#2100

I would much rather have some kind of invention that knocks one of the factions out of the game. If we could eliminate either the scum team or the sleeper team, we can limit the number of KP against us during the night. Either that, or something that helps us to identify anti-town third parties. We have no tools to find them at the moment, and this is going to become a problem soon.

ghost_403

United States1825 Posts

March 28 2012 16:40 GMT

#2103

That's actually a really good point. I fully support any invention that gives the town more lynches/kp/dead scum. Dragon is going to be hard to hunt, as he hasn't done anything yet, best of my knowledge. I would assume he has at least 1 kp. Perhaps he is also looking for the dEngine, like Draz, and was waiting for a good time to strike?

ghost_403

United States1825 Posts

March 29 2012 11:39 GMT

#2135

@blubb: You're arguing that Kenpachi is a sleeper because he identifies with scum? What?

I believe that Dirk is the mason, which makes it more likely that he's scum aligned than cell aligned. That leaves Blubb as sleeper (I don't buy his claim) and Kenpachi as town. I don't think that kenpachi would have been trying to get us to vote glados all game as some sort of ruse.

According to last nights flip, the sleeper team still has a KP, while the mafia team has access to the black market. I'm more scared of the market than the sleeper KP, so I think Dirk is a better lynch at the moment.

ghost_403

United States1825 Posts

March 29 2012 11:53 GMT

#2137

Oh yeah, whoops. Still thought, if Kenpachi was a sleeper, he wouldn't have known who the cell leader is.

Kenpachi identified Wiggles as town back on Day 1. I kinda doubt he would have been able to figure out that Wiggles was cell at that point.

ghost_403

United States1825 Posts

March 29 2012 11:54 GMT

#2138

EBWOP: Still though, if Kenpachi was...

I hate typos.

ghost_403

United States1825 Posts

March 29 2012 14:35 GMT

#2143

Just like Dirk said, role != alignment. We've bent Nisani to our will at this point. He's being forced to help town. In addition, remember that he gave the color radiator to Hassy. Without kita's vig shot, we never would have gotten it in the first place. Food for thought.

ghost_403

United States1825 Posts

March 29 2012 14:41 GMT

#2145

Here's one possibility: You and paper are both scum. You give the color radiator to Hassy knowing that he is going to be killed that same night by paperscraps. Without kita vig's shot, the town never would have gotten the color radiator.

ghost_403

United States1825 Posts

March 29 2012 18:17 GMT

#2150

Foolishness, Dirk is on fire at the moment, which leads us to believe that without intervention, he will die tonight. Why are you pushing for a Dirk lynch when he's going to die anyway?

ghost_403

United States1825 Posts

March 29 2012 18:36 GMT

#2152

On March 28 2012 17:59 kitaman27 wrote:
I won't be around for the rest of the day, but I would advise not visiting Mementoss or Palmar unless you want to end up like willz.

I'm assuming that this means he lit Dirk on Fire, but he didn't explicitly state that this is his night action. Not sure how to interpret the Mementoss part of that comment.

ghost_403

United States1825 Posts

March 29 2012 21:13 GMT

#2171

@JJ: Nisani and Foolishness can't both be scum. We've already killed two sleepers and two scum. Kita's list had two sleepers on it, one scum and one townie. We killed one of those sleepers, leaving 1/1/1. Assuming there are four scum in total, one of the two of them have to be on that list. Therefore, Foolishness and Nisani are not both on the same scum team.

ghost_403

United States1825 Posts

March 29 2012 21:40 GMT

#2174

Yeah, that's a good point.

Should that be the case, I can definitely see Foolishness and Nisani on the same scum team.

ghost_403

United States1825 Posts

March 29 2012 21:50 GMT

#2176

...I don't follow.

ghost_403

United States1825 Posts

March 29 2012 21:56 GMT

#2179

Yeah, just figured that out. Gotcha.

Too bad, that would have been a nice package.

I don't think Blubb is a bad lynch, but it's way too early in the day for me to cast a vote.

ghost_403

United States1825 Posts

March 29 2012 22:52 GMT

#2181

That's not what I'm saying at all. What I'm saying is let's not agree on a lynch candidate now and scrap the rest of the day.

Also, food for thought: sleepers have a KP, scum have access to the black market.

Which is too bad, because my gut tells me Dirk is scum, and I think it would be wiser to leave him to die to kita's flames. I don't think a mason would have any kind of inherent ability to negate KP, and I don't think the KP have a medic. Last time Dirk was protected from the flames was due to mementoss, and I don't see him doing that again.

Mods: Can you add Mementoss' filter to the OP? Mementoss' Filter

ghost_403

United States1825 Posts

March 29 2012 23:14 GMT

#2185

I'm fine lynching the scum in front of us. The thing is we have two scum, which leaves us the responsibility of lynching the best scum in front of us. We know Dirk is the mason, which means he most likely has no other powers. Blubb, on the other hand, could be anything.

I would guess that it's the scum on the black market, as the sleepers killed someone last night. I would guess that the scum used their item from the blackmarket yesterday instead of their KP. Also, Midnight told us that there weren't too many people on the black market. Since the scum used the black market item (again, I'm guessing), I'm assuming it's them that has access to it.

ghost_403

United States1825 Posts

March 30 2012 16:09 GMT

#2203

I'm pretty happy with what Nisani said.

Blubb, you've acted scummy all game and I don't buy your claim.

##vote Blubbdavid

For the record, I've got my money on him flipping sleeper. Anyone else want in on this action?

ghost_403

United States1825 Posts

March 30 2012 16:45 GMT

#2206

Well, blubb, you've still got some time left to change my mind.

Kita used the color radiator on Kenpachi, Dirk and you. I would say it's pretty well established that Dirk is scum. In order to convince me not to lynch you, all you have to do is convince me that Kenpachi is scum as well.

Side note: while no one has asked you to do this, I think any reasonable townie in your situation would have done that starting when Kita revealed those results. Instead, you claimed more or less VT and told us that JJ has to be scum. Not impressed.

But! You still have time. Good luck!