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blubbdavid
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Switzerland2412 Posts
March 18 2012 15:23 GMT
#701
JJ54, I think he means that after Draz gets lynched, someone random who has voted for him would get the items. It could be town or scum.

(and it's a reason why I am voting for Draz kekeke)
What do you desire? Money? Glory? Power? Revenge? Or something that surpasses all other? Whatever you desire - that is here. Tower of God ¦¦Nutella, drink of the Gods
Jayjay54
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2296 Posts
March 18 2012 15:23 GMT
#702
On March 19 2012 00:21 Hassybaby wrote:
Jayjay, there's one bit you're forgetting though. If Drazerk is lynched then there is a small chance his items go to scum, just because it a roll of the dice and they could vote him to have a throw

If he's vigged, then a town gets the items


if he is nightkilled the same applies. there is no safe way to claim the items.

I hate kenpachi for giving him an item (if that's true). It made no sense.
Things are laid back in Unidenland. And may the road ahead be lid with dreams and tomorrows. Which are lid with dreams. Also.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
March 18 2012 15:23 GMT
#703
On March 19 2012 00:21 Hassybaby wrote:
Jayjay, there's one bit you're forgetting though. If Drazerk is lynched then there is a small chance his items go to scum, just because it a roll of the dice and they could vote him to have a throw

If he's vigged, then a town gets the items


Small chance?

I guarantee you all the scum / third party are lynching me because of how easy it is
Jayjay54
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2296 Posts
March 18 2012 15:25 GMT
#704
On March 19 2012 00:23 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2012 00:21 Hassybaby wrote:
Jayjay, there's one bit you're forgetting though. If Drazerk is lynched then there is a small chance his items go to scum, just because it a roll of the dice and they could vote him to have a throw

If he's vigged, then a town gets the items


Small chance?

I guarantee you all the scum / third party are lynching me because of how easy it is


if we all vote you then town has like a 65% chance or so.
Things are laid back in Unidenland. And may the road ahead be lid with dreams and tomorrows. Which are lid with dreams. Also.
blubbdavid
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Switzerland2412 Posts
March 18 2012 15:27 GMT
#705
It also could be that Draz gets vigged by scum or third party. If that happens, we're fucked.
What do you desire? Money? Glory? Power? Revenge? Or something that surpasses all other? Whatever you desire - that is here. Tower of God ¦¦Nutella, drink of the Gods
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
March 18 2012 15:27 GMT
#706
Is kill order decided by timing or is there priority? Like does a town vig get prio over scum?
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Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
March 18 2012 15:27 GMT
#707
On March 19 2012 00:25 Jayjay54 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2012 00:23 Drazerk wrote:
On March 19 2012 00:21 Hassybaby wrote:
Jayjay, there's one bit you're forgetting though. If Drazerk is lynched then there is a small chance his items go to scum, just because it a roll of the dice and they could vote him to have a throw

If he's vigged, then a town gets the items


Small chance?

I guarantee you all the scum / third party are lynching me because of how easy it is


if we all vote you then town has like a 65% chance or so.


We don't know how many town there are as it is a closed set up.

4 super third party
4 sleeper cells
4+? scum

Then you have all your lurkers etc and people who won't vote me so your looking at around 10% of them going to someone useful at best
Jayjay54
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2296 Posts
March 18 2012 15:30 GMT
#708
On March 19 2012 00:27 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2012 00:25 Jayjay54 wrote:
On March 19 2012 00:23 Drazerk wrote:
On March 19 2012 00:21 Hassybaby wrote:
Jayjay, there's one bit you're forgetting though. If Drazerk is lynched then there is a small chance his items go to scum, just because it a roll of the dice and they could vote him to have a throw

If he's vigged, then a town gets the items


Small chance?

I guarantee you all the scum / third party are lynching me because of how easy it is


if we all vote you then town has like a 65% chance or so.


We don't know how many town there are as it is a closed set up.

4 super third party
4 sleeper cells
4+? scum

Then you have all your lurkers etc and people who won't vote me so your looking at around 10% of them going to someone useful at best


it's 4,4,2 because 2 third parties are dead.

thus it'll be around 18 vs 10 (assuming everyone is voting you). maybe a little less.

hassy: it's in the OP, it's not random, the items are distributed in a hidden killing order.
Things are laid back in Unidenland. And may the road ahead be lid with dreams and tomorrows. Which are lid with dreams. Also.
Velinath
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States694 Posts
March 18 2012 15:30 GMT
#709
On March 19 2012 00:27 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2012 00:25 Jayjay54 wrote:
On March 19 2012 00:23 Drazerk wrote:
On March 19 2012 00:21 Hassybaby wrote:
Jayjay, there's one bit you're forgetting though. If Drazerk is lynched then there is a small chance his items go to scum, just because it a roll of the dice and they could vote him to have a throw

If he's vigged, then a town gets the items


Small chance?

I guarantee you all the scum / third party are lynching me because of how easy it is


if we all vote you then town has like a 65% chance or so.


We don't know how many town there are as it is a closed set up.

4 super third party
4 sleeper cells
4+? scum

Then you have all your lurkers etc and people who won't vote me so your looking at around 10% of them going to someone useful at best

And if you have an item that kills 2 random people that vote-lynched you, and it's mostly TP/scum voting for you as you're theorizing...well, personally speaking I'm fine with losing 3 non-town-aligned people early (assuming your theory's true which I honestly doubt)
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
March 18 2012 15:32 GMT
#710
Oh right, I see it. Go confused with the lynch rule as well.
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Jayjay54
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2296 Posts
March 18 2012 15:35 GMT
#711
screw items and stuff.

there just will never be a better time to get rid of third party then D1. If we ever have a lack of good candidates (other than lurkers) it is now.

if he (as he claimed) has 3 items, he will most def fire into town tomorrow to fulfill his wincon as fast as possible (if he didn't lie). He will then hope that gandalf has an item and begs for another.

so even if he tells the truth about his wincon, he will shoot into town tomorrow.

nuff' said. he's a good D1 lynch.
Things are laid back in Unidenland. And may the road ahead be lid with dreams and tomorrows. Which are lid with dreams. Also.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
March 18 2012 15:38 GMT
#712
On March 19 2012 00:35 Jayjay54 wrote:
screw items and stuff.

there just will never be a better time to get rid of third party then D1. If we ever have a lack of good candidates (other than lurkers) it is now.

if he (as he claimed) has 3 items, he will most def fire into town tomorrow to fulfill his wincon as fast as possible (if he didn't lie). He will then hope that gandalf has an item and begs for another.

so even if he tells the truth about his wincon, he will shoot into town tomorrow.

nuff' said. he's a good D1 lynch.


I can't shoot tomorrow

Stop being an idiot and actually read the thread

I have already said I will wait for scum / third party to kill him so no I won't as YOU ALREADY KNOW MY KILL FLAVOUR ARRRRGH

I honestly believe you are scum the way you are pushing my lynch atm because really you are refusing to read and not looking at the bigger picture and this will catch up with you in a few days time.
Jayjay54
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2296 Posts
March 18 2012 15:49 GMT
#713
On March 19 2012 00:38 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2012 00:35 Jayjay54 wrote:
screw items and stuff.

there just will never be a better time to get rid of third party then D1. If we ever have a lack of good candidates (other than lurkers) it is now.

if he (as he claimed) has 3 items, he will most def fire into town tomorrow to fulfill his wincon as fast as possible (if he didn't lie). He will then hope that gandalf has an item and begs for another.

so even if he tells the truth about his wincon, he will shoot into town tomorrow.

nuff' said. he's a good D1 lynch.


I can't shoot tomorrow

Stop being an idiot and actually read the thread

I have already said I will wait for scum / third party to kill him so no I won't as YOU ALREADY KNOW MY KILL FLAVOUR ARRRRGH

I honestly believe you are scum the way you are pushing my lynch atm because really you are refusing to read and not looking at the bigger picture and this will catch up with you in a few days time.


I did read the thread and I understood that you can shoot if you get items, which you did.

We know you're not town and you have to kill (one) town. That by itself is enough to justify a lynch. We can't afford having you around at lylo. It's just the way it is. So why not kill you D1?

also, did I mention I don't buy your wincon?

I am no scum, but I assume that's another card you have to draw leading the vote after doing anything else like threatening town by an item which happens to kill people who vote you or giving away items to "scum", saying you don't shoot no more and letting scum kill your target.

This is my last post here on your case bro, I think you're dead and honestly I am looking forward to your flip. I still think you're third, but I'd love to read your role PM. This will also give us additional input about this superfriendly gang (which may be anti-town too)
Things are laid back in Unidenland. And may the road ahead be lid with dreams and tomorrows. Which are lid with dreams. Also.
zelblade
Profile Joined December 2011
Australia901 Posts
March 18 2012 16:05 GMT
#714
I need to go sleep since I have school tomorrow (and thus cant post till quite a few hours after deadline), which kind of sucks since I am unsure on who I want to lynch as of now =/

Quite a few players are lurking rather actively - Dirk, rayzor, cwave, kita etc. I do think that a decent portion of these lurkers are probably scum, and dont think that lynching into them would be a bad idea. Personally I had to choose one of these it would be cwave - his lack of posting doesnt help, and I really do not like his ninga vote.

I have stated many times that I would rather not lynch drazerk due to various reasons I have already stated, though it does look like we will not be able to achieve a majority on anyone else today. I dont think hes a bad lynch to be honest - JJ makes a good point in that the chance of him flipping town = 0%, and whilst I dont think he would be a threat for now, he could very well be one later. I highly doubt we can find a better lynch today either way, besides the standard lurker lynch which honestly is more likely to hit town than anything else.

As such,

##vote: Drazerk

I might be around before the deadline to change my vote but dont count on it.

When is the deadline? Is it 07:00HKT?
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-18 16:18:13
March 18 2012 16:17 GMT
#715
the day ends Sunday, Mar 18 11:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)
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Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
March 18 2012 16:21 GMT
#716
I've traded the items to the cell leader who nicely contacted me.

See what you have done
Velinath
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States694 Posts
March 18 2012 16:22 GMT
#717
On March 19 2012 01:21 Drazerk wrote:
I've traded the items to the cell leader who nicely contacted me.

See what you have done

Excellent now we have absolutely no reason not to lynch you
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
March 18 2012 16:31 GMT
#718
On March 19 2012 01:22 Velinath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2012 01:21 Drazerk wrote:
I've traded the items to the cell leader who nicely contacted me.

See what you have done

Excellent now we have absolutely no reason not to lynch you


Nope but you've killed an entire days discussion and guess what I know your the dragon ^^
Barbiero
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Brazil5259 Posts
March 18 2012 16:32 GMT
#719
On March 18 2012 17:58 Paperscraps wrote:
Foolishness is a boss. Definitely a good target to be saved tonight.

Velinath continues to impress upon me he should be elected.

I am also ok with lurkers being shot in the night. Just make sure you claim before you do so.




Show nested quote +
On March 18 2012 17:40 Bluelightz wrote:
On March 18 2012 17:33 Dirk Hardpec wrote:
Why are people giving me their votes?



What is this... I don't even...



Show nested quote +
On March 18 2012 17:51 Bluelightz wrote:
Seriously Dirk, step up, like others said your analysis post is fluffy as derp and your not helping town in any way.


This looks like buddying to me. Bluelightz or Dirk are a good lynch. I will keep my vote on Bluelightz for my reasons stated earlier.


> Directs blues
> Asks for blue claims

Yeah, I'm electing BH and I got my scum right here.

[b]##Elect: BH[/b
##VoteLynch: Paperscraps



Extras for his case:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=319120&user=62048

> Unnecessary clarifications
> Finds a lurker to park his vote in
> Keeps saying how good Velinath is, even though it was suggested by the one player he wants to lynch
> Wants to lynch Bluelightz because Bluelightz is Bluelightz; Never has a solid target

And most importantly, a very low activity as to be very careful with his own posts.

If anything, I'd say Veli is scumbuddy with Paper; However I am not sure about that at this point. Still, it's pretty clear that all Paper has done is to try to buddy up with a relatively well accepted player(as in, many people want him elected) while staying wishy-washy with his lynch targets. Oh, and of course, blue fishing.
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Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
March 18 2012 16:34 GMT
#720
On March 19 2012 01:32 Zephirdd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2012 17:58 Paperscraps wrote:
Foolishness is a boss. Definitely a good target to be saved tonight.

Velinath continues to impress upon me he should be elected.

I am also ok with lurkers being shot in the night. Just make sure you claim before you do so.




On March 18 2012 17:40 Bluelightz wrote:
On March 18 2012 17:33 Dirk Hardpec wrote:
Why are people giving me their votes?



What is this... I don't even...



On March 18 2012 17:51 Bluelightz wrote:
Seriously Dirk, step up, like others said your analysis post is fluffy as derp and your not helping town in any way.


This looks like buddying to me. Bluelightz or Dirk are a good lynch. I will keep my vote on Bluelightz for my reasons stated earlier.


> Directs blues
> Asks for blue claims

Yeah, I'm electing BH and I got my scum right here.

[b]##Elect: BH[/b
##VoteLynch: Paperscraps



Extras for his case:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=319120&user=62048

> Unnecessary clarifications
> Finds a lurker to park his vote in
> Keeps saying how good Velinath is, even though it was suggested by the one player he wants to lynch
> Wants to lynch Bluelightz because Bluelightz is Bluelightz; Never has a solid target

And most importantly, a very low activity as to be very careful with his own posts.

If anything, I'd say Veli is scumbuddy with Paper; However I am not sure about that at this point. Still, it's pretty clear that all Paper has done is to try to buddy up with a relatively well accepted player(as in, many people want him elected) while staying wishy-washy with his lynch targets. Oh, and of course, blue fishing.


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