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On March 19 2012 09:25 Velinath wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2012 09:15 willz22912 wrote:
My opinion now is that Velinath is now a huge danger to town. We now we have possible evidence from Drazerk's claims that Velinath could be a 3rd party along with his Wheatley ability. Yes Drazerk lied about many things, but he also didn't lie about other parts. What possible motive would he have to have to initiate the election for Velinath and then do a 180 and say "don't vote for him he's a 3rd party" if he didn't run his DT check and it came back great power on Velinath? So based on this, 3rd parties can win with any faction, why does Velinath have to stay town-aligned? He doesn't, and he's a item factory that we cannot control.
I don't know why you're trusting Drazerk on anything given that he was all over the map with his claims. He also claimed that Wiggles was not the same as he was, which would be the use of his power as well. Since from what I can tell of his role PM he could only use this once per day, at least one of those claims is false.
lol, you can't compare him calling Wiggle's not the same as him, to him calling you the planar dragon.
He wouldn't have taken as much shit either if he didn't suddenly switch his view on electing you for seemingly no reason, so it's not some sort of planned out elaborate lie it seems like something he could have found out and posted without thinking of the consequences.
The only thing holding me back is this post : On March 19 2012 06:14 Drazerk wrote:
Here is a list of people who need to die because they are scum but I distracted you all day so you never realized it -
kitaman27
gonzaw
MidnightGladius
People who you should look out for and probably have their own agenda -
Velinath
Jayjay54
People you should trust -
Kenpachi
People you should be voting for -
GlaDOS
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On March 19 2012 09:36 Jayjay54 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2012 09:32 Grackaroni wrote:On March 19 2012 09:25 Velinath wrote:On March 19 2012 09:15 willz22912 wrote:
My opinion now is that Velinath is now a huge danger to town. We now we have possible evidence from Drazerk's claims that Velinath could be a 3rd party along with his Wheatley ability. Yes Drazerk lied about many things, but he also didn't lie about other parts. What possible motive would he have to have to initiate the election for Velinath and then do a 180 and say "don't vote for him he's a 3rd party" if he didn't run his DT check and it came back great power on Velinath? So based on this, 3rd parties can win with any faction, why does Velinath have to stay town-aligned? He doesn't, and he's a item factory that we cannot control.
I don't know why you're trusting Drazerk on anything given that he was all over the map with his claims. He also claimed that Wiggles was not the same as he was, which would be the use of his power as well. Since from what I can tell of his role PM he could only use this once per day, at least one of those claims is false. lol, you can't compare him calling Wiggle's not the same as him, to him calling you the planar dragon. He wouldn't have taken as much shit either if he didn't suddenly switch his view on electing you for seemingly no reason, so it's not some sort of planned out elaborate lie it seems like something he could have found out and posted without thinking of the consequences. The only thing holding me back is this post : On March 19 2012 06:14 Drazerk wrote:
Here is a list of people who need to die because they are scum but I distracted you all day so you never realized it -
kitaman27
gonzaw
MidnightGladius
People who you should look out for and probably have their own agenda -
Velinath
Jayjay54
People you should trust -
Kenpachi
People you should be voting for -
GlaDOS
so why do you want to take this post into consideration? Kenpachi is to trust because he did what draz wanted. I am on the "own agenda" list, because I pushed him. He was also already anti-town frustated when he posted that. more information = better for town. Don't hold back, just because you are afraid of dying. If everybody is active, scum won't know who to shoot...ezpz
My point is If he knew for sure that Velinath was the Planar dragon he probably would have put him in the need to die list rather than look out for list. My mentioning of it had nothing to do with you.
You're probably right though, he was pissed that he was getting lynched so he probably wasn't trying to help town.
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##Grow: Lemon Tree
@Velinath : Are you able to gift yourself items and will you be doing that?
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On March 19 2012 11:43 gonzaw wrote:
@Grack: Please post info about this Lemon Tree.
Did someone give you more lemons? What does the Lemon Tree do (apart I guess from just giving you more lemons)?
I'm a 4th party role. I am unlynchable, bullet proof and I win with all possible roles/factions. Once per day/night cycle I must plant a lemon tree. My win condition is that I must collect the entire game's supply of lemons. My only weakness is that I am susceptible to poisoned lemons....
In reality, MidnightGladius said that people looking for lemons should grow a lemon tree... so i grew a lemon tree. It did nothing, and has no meaning. I haven't gotten anymore lemons but it's no big deal... unless of course I was telling the truth about my above role.
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Because MG is masoned with me and has a similar role.
He is trying to collect potatoes.
he just posted the bit about the lemons to make my lemon tree planting seem less suspicious
Anyone trying to get potatoes? grow them.
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On March 19 2012 12:12 MidnightGladius wrote:
Gonzaw, I wasn't being serious about telling people seeking lemons to grow lemon trees :D. I was just poking fun at the idea of there being a black market trade in lemons, of all things.
Grackaroni, now you're being a bit too silly :D.
there's not much going on the thread anyways.
Besides I'm pretty sure there are a few players in here who aren't bothering to read the thread so it might actually help me get one 
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On March 19 2012 12:21 gonzaw wrote:
@Grack: Is this a joke then? Are you fake-claiming for shit and giggles?
yeah, I wouldn't even consider it fake claiming its a pretty ridiculous role.
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Now back to serious thoughts, Transparency for the black market is not always a good thing. The OP itself explicitly mentioned the fact that there could be roles capable of stealing items. I can only imagine those being scum roles if they exist so you could end up gifting a powerful item to scum rather than the townie player the item was originally made for.
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On March 19 2012 13:41 Lanaia wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2012 13:35 gonzaw wrote:
There's a very simple way to determine if Drazerk lied or not about giving his items to someone else (Cell Leader or not) now that I think about it:
-If you got the "Portal Gun", "Maia Gun", or "Angry Core" once Drazerk was lynched, then claim you got it.
If this was the case, then Drazerk was indeed bullshiting about that and we can just forget about it.
If nobody claims, then perhaps he did give his items to someone else, but it's also likely the items went to scum/3rd party.
The point is that Drazerk's role made his items obsolete, so there's no harm in claiming you got them, right?
(Unless I'm missing something). He claimed the angry core would take two people down with him, no?
It was a lie. Kenpachi gave him an item, which made him bulletproof.
Just a desperate attempt to make town decide they would rather shoot him than risk lynching him.
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@Foolishness : is there any games that showcase what your town play normally looks like? You've got such a reputation but the game I found was personality mafia and it did not help me in the slightest lol
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A Tribute to Foolishness
Your need to speak poetry must surely be fake
but an anti-town player that does not always make.
you seemed too content to sit back and read
as if you were waiting to watch us all bleed.
(and we really could use a strong townie to lead!!)
New players ignored you, this is probably rare
your lynch target survived but you did not care.
I have now looked through four of your games
and they have confirmed the great town claims
Unlike most vets you do not use much pressure
you wait for scum to jump out at your own leisure
Your number one read has always flipped scum
Not lynching Dirk Hardpec seems pretty dumb
If somebody gives me the lemon I continue to seek
I promise to end the life of that scummy geek
If scum wants to kill me they can go right ahead
In fact I'll be pleased; no tears will be shed.
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Why don't you care about this game Cwave?
Your filter is empty.
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On March 19 2012 17:57 phagga wrote:
I think claminig items is not a good move at this point. As Drazerk's role showed there are 3rd parties and perhaps even scum out there that are dayvigs, it will be easy for them to get certain items if they need them. So I'd rather if people hold back with their item claims for now.
I can agree with that, Drazerk's flip already showed a 3rd party that needs Gonzaw's item, we'll have to hope that he was the only player that needed it. Pretty bad move by Gonzaw, nobody was going to kill him before he said that lol.
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You guys waste time discussing why foolishness speaks in rhymes.
I don't want to hear his my posts are clear poem one more time
Whether foolishness is scum or town, I cannot say.
but one thing for sure is he'lll be dead either way.
I can only imagine that he writes limericks for fun.
but who cares about his methods if he gets shit done.
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If you read my other poem, you really could know.
but since you did not, the truth I will show.
If given another lemon, I will be able to kill
one of the players, with whom I've had my fill
If you do not read the thread, I will be quite annoyed
to repeat this again, I would hope to avoid.
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On March 20 2012 03:26 Jayjay54 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2012 03:07 Grackaroni wrote:
If you read my other poem, you really could know.
but since you did not, the truth I will show.
If given another lemon, I will be able to kill
one of the players, with whom I've had my fill
If you do not read the thread, I will be quite annoyed
to repeat this again, I would hope to avoid. so who'll be your shot? dirk?
yes
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On March 20 2012 03:26 Jayjay54 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2012 03:07 Grackaroni wrote:
If you read my other poem, you really could know.
but since you did not, the truth I will show.
If given another lemon, I will be able to kill
one of the players, with whom I've had my fill
If you do not read the thread, I will be quite annoyed
to repeat this again, I would hope to avoid. so who'll be your shot? dirk?
unless some people who I actually trust complain.
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On March 20 2012 03:33 Jayjay54 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2012 03:29 Grackaroni wrote:On March 20 2012 03:26 Jayjay54 wrote:On March 20 2012 03:07 Grackaroni wrote:
If you read my other poem, you really could know.
but since you did not, the truth I will show.
If given another lemon, I will be able to kill
one of the players, with whom I've had my fill
If you do not read the thread, I will be quite annoyed
to repeat this again, I would hope to avoid. so who'll be your shot? dirk? unless some people who I actually trust complain. I don't know how you feel about me, but I do think that there are better targets. The only reason he is prefered over the other lurkers is foolishness who I don't trust yet.
I'm feeling pretty good about you so I'll consider it. (I don't have a lemon anyways lol)
Foolishness #1 suspicion is almost always right as town.
This is a multi-factional game, if he actually is scum it doesn't make the shot bad.
Scum have an even easier time identifying scum teams because they already know their own team.
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Yesterday you were in the thread but you were being silent.
(when you were asking about veli's roles) that's not like yourself.
FYI, people have said that this game is full of blue roles so that won't be a valid excuse for you to be holding back on us.
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On March 20 2012 03:50 Jayjay54 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2012 03:46 Grackaroni wrote:On March 20 2012 03:33 Jayjay54 wrote:On March 20 2012 03:29 Grackaroni wrote:On March 20 2012 03:26 Jayjay54 wrote:On March 20 2012 03:07 Grackaroni wrote:
If you read my other poem, you really could know.
but since you did not, the truth I will show.
If given another lemon, I will be able to kill
one of the players, with whom I've had my fill
If you do not read the thread, I will be quite annoyed
to repeat this again, I would hope to avoid. so who'll be your shot? dirk? unless some people who I actually trust complain. I don't know how you feel about me, but I do think that there are better targets. The only reason he is prefered over the other lurkers is foolishness who I don't trust yet. I'm feeling pretty good about you so I'll consider it. (I don't have a lemon anyways lol) Foolishness #1 suspicion is almost always right as town. This is a multi-factional game, if he actually is scum it doesn't make the shot bad. Scum have an even easier time identifying scum teams because they already know their own team. I don't follow, I don't think scum will bus on d1 considering how few members they prolly have...foolishness isn't even sure himself:
I'm not implying that scum would bus their own team.
What I was saying is that he would have an easier time figuring out the other scum team.
Ex: In purgatory Palmar was a demon and he was able to call out my entire Angel team day1 in one post.
It was actually easier for him to do so because he had more information than the rest of the town.
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