Aperture Mafia - Page 28

On March 18 2012 00:56 Dirk Hardpec wrote:
No matter how much I think about it, Drazerk's successful shooting says nothing about his alignment. It is a reasonable approach for almost every faction except for town, and town is the faction most prone to take unreasonable approaches to the game.

What I find more interesting is the fact that he claims to be third party. No matter how you look at it, the only faction I can possibly think of benefitting from being thought of as third party is mafia. It is strictly inefficient for town to be thought of as third party as that will lead to an eventual lynch of that person, you cannot go into situation where one lynch will lose the game carrying a claimed third party on your back. This is however perfectly acceptable for someone who just wants to extend his life cycle for a while, ie: mafia.

I guess it is also possible that he is indeed a third party and is trying to make an alliance with us, but it seems very unlikely as most third parties tend to be at severe disadvantage when they get figured out.

In sense, it makes no sense from a balance standpoint to create a third party in a game, and then make it possible for us to leave that third party alive, might as well be town then.

This is why I don't believe his claim, I think Drazerk is scum and I want to lynch him. I guess I can't say I disbelieve his role claim as the flavor fits, however I do disbelieve his alignment claim.

##Vote Drazerk

On March 18 2012 03:26 MidnightGladius wrote:
@gonzaw:

Kenpachi's also been scattering the town's concentration with his glados voting and the nonsensical party with blazinghand. I don't like that at all, but I take it that this is what he usually does, and I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. If he doesn't actually start contributing soon, or continues to attempt to derail, then that could quickly change.

Wiggles is making decent sense to me, but I wish he'd read a bit more carefully. He's already slipped up once in terms of comprehension (thinking Drazerk had given an item instead of using it). His latest analysis is solid.

On March 18 2012 03:31 Foolishness wrote:
On Wiggles you must keep your eye
So hard to tell when he is to lie
He's a powerful player
Do not make him mayor
It's hard to read him, but give it a try...

On March 18 2012 03:16 gonzaw wrote:
I think this Drazerk thing is distracting us too much.


I'll just ask this to Drazerk, and hopefully nothing more so we can continue trying to hunt scum:

-Can you tell us your EXACT process of thought in every action you've taken?
As in, what you were thinking when you shot VE, what you were thinking when you chose to elect Velinath, what you were thinking when you decided to post that you wanted items, etc. Explain those inconsistencies found in your posts
-How exactly does your day-shot work? Will you let us control your shot on D2-D3 and so on? If your role can't do that, state the exact reasons for doing so, and state EVERY restriction your role has.
-If you want to live, I suggest you let town control the use of your DT item
-What item did you use on Wiggles? Explain that thoroughly, and explain your thought process as well (which relates to the 1st point). For instance, why did you choose to use it on Wiggles?

If you don't give us ALL the info we want, stop cloggin up the thread, stop confusing town, and let us control your shots/items, then you should die.
If you DO everything of the above, I think we could give you the useless items (like those lemons people are talking about) every once in a while, like a treat.

You do know that if you don't do everything we tell you to, we lynch you right? You will have to hope scum kill Gandalf for you, and that you behave well enough to receive the useless items.

On March 18 2012 03:34 Jayjay54 wrote:
@foolishness: there's a lynch AND an election.

On March 18 2012 03:28 Drazerk wrote:
sigh...

I have the anger core two random people who are voting for me when I am lynched will die

I will not be passing it to someone so you can lynch me so if you are going to kill me do it via a bullet.

On March 18 2012 03:50 Hassybaby wrote:
@jayjay: I agree that its not a bad lynch choice. I just hate that all discussion is about Drazerk. We need a second candidate, or we're wasting an entire day. I'm gonna read through every filter and try to find another option.

Also, is Foolishness supposed to be Edward Lear?

On March 18 2012 03:20 Foolishness wrote:
Drazerk is certainly playing the fool
Do not elect him! That would be uncool,
Velinath is a good choice
and from it we will rejoice
Cause Drazerk will use us like tools

##Elect: Velinath

On March 18 2012 03:28 Mr. Wiggles wrote:

That wasn't me, that was Gonzaw. Ironic.

Can someone explain to me why people want to vote in Velinath as Wheatley? He was the target initially proposed by Drazerk, and that's where the votes started, but I have no idea why they continued.

On March 18 2012 03:33 Jayjay54 wrote:This already contradicts itself. You say don't want discussion on Drazerk and then go on and make a huge paragraph with questions generating discussions. Your "this is why Drazerk is town" post was just so naive. Think a little. Finally you say, you'd rather lynch third or scum than town. Well guess what, Drazerk indicated quite clearly he is not town.

Other than that you just ask questions to EVERYONE. It's freaking day 1. You imagine everybody already has like 3 scum reads?

On March 18 2012 03:48 Jayjay54 wrote:


now it's just getting sad. You already had a DT item, now you have a second one which happens to kill people lynching you? really? try to be more creative.

On March 18 2012 03:55 Foolishness wrote:
Though it may be strange how this appears,
I think so far I have been quite clear.
I speak my thoughts,
don't be such a snot.
I assure you that you have nothing to fear.

On March 18 2012 04:08 gonzaw wrote:


That doesn't mean you give any valid reasoning behind your "thoughts".
You may "speak your thoughts"; but you won't make cases, you won't make analysis, etc.


Your only reason for voting Dirk was "He tries to blend in", nothing else.
I can see what would make Dirk suspicious though, but you won't do shit by posting like you are. It also makes it easier for you to hide if you are scum.


I want you to give more reasoning behind your posts, not just "speak your thoughts".

Also another thing is that I get the feeling your post restriction is bullshit (I think the mods even acknowledged that by giving you points, I doubt they will give someone points for just following their post restriction, since the alternative is a modkill).