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Mementoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada2595 Posts
March 28 2012 12:09 GMT
#2092
^^Ya that makes sense why the description is what it is.

Maybe if installed it gives me the power to be able to make Delicious Cake (Cakes?) or have a similar ability to Delicious Cake (making someone not be able to post for 24 hours). As mentioned earlier in the thread I don't know if its worth the no night action to equip new cores.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu96xMwFVXw
Mementoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada2595 Posts
March 28 2012 23:33 GMT
#2116
So scatter gun they pick two shots, and if the first one is town, and the second one is town, the second one will just be a dud?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu96xMwFVXw
Mementoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada2595 Posts
March 29 2012 11:35 GMT
#2134
@Adam I am not burning.

As for the lynch tonight, since the kita flip, I think its pretty safe to say that we can trust him. I like the idea of going after the rest of Kita's list as we have a 66% chance of getting anti-town player. I will go into the filter of each and see which seems to be the best lynch target for the night. Right now they all seem pretty useless and lynching any of them will provide good for the town.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu96xMwFVXw
Mementoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada2595 Posts
March 29 2012 19:48 GMT
#2157
Ya that scatter shot now sounds brutal. I thought it would be you pcik the first target and if the second one was the same faction, it would be a dud or something of the likes. -_- No risk, but low chance of reward.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu96xMwFVXw
Mementoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada2595 Posts
March 29 2012 23:53 GMT
#2187
Alright im going to let ya know what I think about the 1/1/1

Kenpachi:
Doesn't post often. When he does post it is usually 1 liners. A good portion of those posts are trying to get the town to vote Glados, at this point I don't even know if it's part of his role, or if he's trying to derail the town. Or just plain trolling. Nothing much else to say here, other than if he is town, he is certainly not helpful.

Shitty town, or sleeper cell

BlubbDavid:
Out of the 4 people kita checked. Blubb stated wiggles was clearly the most town, when his play never reflected this. Then he flips cell leader. Then afterwards before Kita died, wanted to use the scatter gun against him, even though it seemed clear he most likely was town aligned, after killing the Mafia GF and also was not lying about the colour radiator. Seems scummy to me, the reasoning didn't make sense and he didn't explain it. His whole filter seems to be him jumping back and forth on people who we should kill. Note there is never a clear target. This seems scummy to me.

Scum or cell (trying to defend sleeper cell leader)

DirkHardpec

Lurks harder than even kenpachi. Pushing for a Nisani lynch. Is currently on fire. Has access to the telepathic QT, which doens't seem like scum ability or flavour per say. Him being on fire could mean he could die tonight. But we cannot know for sure. So if we are not lynching him for this reason alone I think that is a mistake. Is a bit active in the tele QT, but not much. Seems uninterested.

Cell or bad town

Out of those three I think the blubbdavid lynch is the safest as I think he is either cell or scum for sure. I would think dirk is most likely cell, and kenpachi is most likely just playing a bad town game.

However I would like to mention one more case, as we don't have to lynch these people at all. Because foolishness has the scatter shot, I think this would be a perfect spot for him to shoot, as it doesn't work unless he gets 2 oppositely aligned players. Which is guarenteed shooting into this three pack.

Nisani
Ghost earlier brought up an issue, him giving the colour radiator to hassy, coulda been working with scum, letting paperscraps shoot him and aquiring the colour radiator, thus wasting it. Luckily kita go the kill and used the colour radiator accurately. Now he has invented something the town reccomended but in the wrong way. It will either be a good item, or useless. Its a low risk, item, but has a low chance of being good for the town. (if it duds out) Also had a lot of scum vibes coming from him before he even claimed inventor. I also think town is in a good spot right now it seems, and the only thing that can bring it back for scum, is a poorly designed invention in the wrong hands.

Leaning scum inventor to me, that just got caught in the act when kita acquired the colour radiator meant for paperscraps.

I would like a Nisani lynch, and allow foolishness to use his item with no chance of it not working on the 1/1/1.

##Vote: Nisani

Also I have travelling to do tommorrow, so I wont be around all day. Will try to drop in and will switch my vote if its needed for a majority.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu96xMwFVXw
Mementoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada2595 Posts
March 29 2012 23:55 GMT
#2188
EBWOP: Also Dirk invited me to QT for no reason, I'm not even sure why. Questionable.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu96xMwFVXw
Mementoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada2595 Posts
March 30 2012 00:58 GMT
#2190
Well im just saying that it would be the best chance we have of foolishness' item to work. Either that or lynch one of the three and use the item on the other two. Which would guarentee scum kill and cell kill for a sacrificed townie. In that case I guess it doesn't really matter who we kill as long as we trust foolishness. I really don't think hes scum since he was killed early by scum and it seems like an odd early bus.

I never said I was final on that vote, I said if I seen any better reasoning/plan I would change. And who is this "confirmed scum" you speak of? Only scum would know who scum are. I don't understand what you are talking about here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu96xMwFVXw
Mementoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada2595 Posts
March 30 2012 01:01 GMT
#2191
EBWOP: In the case we just kill of the whole list this cycle I like the BlubbDavid lynchthe best>Dirk>Kenpachi , as I am fairly sure Blubb is either scum or cell, a lynch on which either benefit the town.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu96xMwFVXw
Mementoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada2595 Posts
March 30 2012 02:00 GMT
#2196
Oh I completely misunderstood -_-. I thought it only worked if they were two different factions.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu96xMwFVXw
Mementoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada2595 Posts
March 30 2012 02:03 GMT
#2197
EBWOP: I thought that the mistake was it wouldn't kill anyone if he targetted 2 of the same faction. And would kill both if they were different faction.

Rather than I thought the orginal idea was it would kill one regardless and if the second shot was fired on the same faction only the second shot wouldn't go through. So that we could at least confirm the second shot, without risking killing two townies.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu96xMwFVXw
Mementoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada2595 Posts
March 30 2012 13:00 GMT
#2201
Since scatter shot doesn't work at all like I thought, I will change my vote to someone in the list as we should take out the list until the one townie remains. I still think we should start with Blubbdavid, as I think he is either cell or scum. I am travelling in 5 hours so I wont be around for a while after that. Hopefully will be able to get one post off in the night phase.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu96xMwFVXw
Mementoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada2595 Posts
March 31 2012 15:18 GMT
#2243
Sorry guys away from home for the day will not be posting during the night phase will post tomorwowo.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu96xMwFVXw
Mementoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada2595 Posts
April 01 2012 21:22 GMT
#2285
@Maverick - I can confirm I have the "factual core" as stated before I don't know what it does until I equip it. Flavour just states cell phone gives cancer. Probably a quote from the game not very telling. Might need to equip some new cores, as medic this late in the game is tough its hard to trust really anyone and I wouldn't mind figuring out what cores do what.

Damn that Kenpachi situation sucks. I was so curious to what it did, but damn the timing really puts the town in an awkward situation. But, a win is a win for him I guess QQ.

That being said, since I have a condition that is not told to me about acquiring all the cores, I would like people to refrain from giving me them so I dont collect them all, in case its similar to a Kenpachi win con.

I have been gone that last couple of days so i need to re-read the last few pages to try and figure out using the newly acquired information from the night kills, and re-examine the filters of remaining players. Will try to get a post tonight, at latest tommorrow mornin.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu96xMwFVXw
Mementoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada2595 Posts
April 02 2012 12:40 GMT
#2305
Alright, I am going to post my general thoughts right now. From my perspective I am town, I also think JJ is town because of how he has consistently been scum-hunting/being pressuring actively, I think foolishness is not mafia because of the way he was brought back to life, leaning town, but there is a possibility he is cell.

That leaves, Nisani, Maverick, and Phagga.

Nisani: Currently reading Null for me. As stated before many times, Role=! alignment. People are saying this towards me, along with well if he is town wouldn't he have been night killed already? The same exact case could be made against Nisani. Except stronger because he has a more powerful power. His colour radiator turned out great for town, but looked weird how it paper (mafia) killed hassy to obtain it, and it was only by luck Kita got it through night shot.

Then the scatter shot was created wrong, and given to foolishness (who seems okay in my books). I don't think it was used last night, or did not go off judging there was no 2 flavours the same.

Then the one-shot detective was invented and given to Kenpachi. This seems reasonable as he was confirmed town, from the colour radiator. However, since he was confirmed town he coulda easily been a target of Cell/mafia. Wasting the item. Now kenpachi wins and is ejected with his item. Wasting the item. There was no way anyone coulda guessed this so I am not putting Nisani at fault.

In conclusion it seems that Nisani is listening to the towns suggestions and is trying to work with the town. However, some questionable mistakes make him seem not completely okay. Last 2 items have effectively done nothing, and the colour radiator in the hands of mafia coulda really shook the town in the wrong direction luckily it went to kita.

Maverick:
Note his filter is very short, (barely longer than mine despite me missing a lot of the start) Alot of his filter is based on asking who has what item, and claiming roles, and trying to figure out roles, rather than scum-hunt or even pressure. Ocassional posts his opinion on people but he is never the first on this and usually just takes the general idea others have given. Consistently tries to confirm his night actions (his tracking item/giving me the core) to show hes not lieing, in a desperate attempt to prove his innocence. Along with his general lurkiness this just feels really scummy to me.

Voted GlaDos. Which is not very telling as a lot of people voted for Glados. I just want to mention that town was in a seemingly good position. Voting GladoS imo, seems risky and a desperation move as noone knew what it did, and since the number of scum is probably really low, a risky action could bring them back in the game. Which getting rid of kenpachi and lowering the town number really gave scum a better chance now.

On April 01 2012 11:56 Maverick32x wrote:
Phagga- No good read on this guy.. makes list.. bandwagons.... not a whole lot of 'pro-town' going on there...

If it were up to me to vote right this second.. I'd go with Phagga.


His reasoning for voting on phagga is because he doesn't have a good read, and he makes lists and bandwagons. Problem is this is right after Mavericks list, oh and also, maverick has been bandwagoning his votes all game.

Maverick is the last scared scum.

Phagga:
Reason he seems suspicious is because he puts a case on me, that could easily be said about Nisani as well, yet he doesn't say it about Nisani. Says Nisani seems pretty town to him. Also, bases me on not giving my reads. Well recently I have trying to give my reads/opinions on whatever I think/ lynch candidates. Keep in mind I was a replacement 60 pages in. That is more I feel you could say about Maverick who has been here all game. I would re-look at his filter.

He makes a good point that the gun might not have been used last night. (coulda been a dud too) And that foolishness could be a cell trying for an insta-win with the gun. This could just be a ploy to get the attention of cell off his own back as well. Although, he generally seems to have the same thoughts as me with what I am thinking about certain townies.

Leaning cell, or town. At this point I think cell is either him or foolishness.

However, I think is more important to kill off the mafia, as we are not even sure if sleeper has KP left.

##Vote: Maverick32x
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu96xMwFVXw
Mementoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada2595 Posts
April 02 2012 14:39 GMT
#2314
^^Wouldn't foolishness be on fire if he shot Dirk and Nisani.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu96xMwFVXw
Mementoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada2595 Posts
April 02 2012 14:59 GMT
#2319
What? This was before Kita's role was revealed. As far as I knew at the time I protected Dirk from a regular vig shot.

I feel right now that I am getting targeted for being bad town, rather than being scummy. The votes are all easily floating to me, as the remaining scum (most likely a mafia and a sleeper) would rather not use a night KP on me, when they can just bandwagon me out on the lynch. Most people aren't even explaining how I am more suspicious than anyone else that should be on the radar. There just like Mementoss? Seems like a decent lynch tonight.

Probably looking to get rid of me now than ever, since the last 2 nights Nisanis haven't worked/couldn't be used, I am now more favourable to the town. Also I have just come into possession with new cores (equipped last night as action), Factual and Intelligence. Which just by name seem a lot more powerful than the medic/track I had before (haven't used very successfully). So if I die, I will most likely be the towns last blue, and it will be 3-1-1. If sleeper has KP left this game could be over after the night cycle.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu96xMwFVXw
Mementoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada2595 Posts
April 02 2012 16:31 GMT
#2321
Well, your aggressive tunnelling towards me has successfully wasted a good part of the last half of the day cycle. Basically you've allowed no discussion at all otherwise today. No one has been pressured to talk and therefore, most haven't said much of anything except me and you. So what if your wrong Phagga? What direction can the town go in?

At best another townie will be killed, at worse its end game. Also you lose my DT for the night, if mafia decides not to kill me. (Factual core anyone?) At least you make mafia decide between me soaking a shot because im blue, or killing someone with town cred on the right track.

If your mafia congratz on leading the whole town down shit creek. If your town, you should really take a look at your game-play again, as the day where the lynch is most important has been wasted on tunnelling rather than discussion/analysis of everyone.

That being said, I'm back to work and off to dinner afterwards. So I might not be able to further post after this, if I end up dead. GL town I think your gunna need it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu96xMwFVXw
Mementoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada2595 Posts
April 03 2012 11:26 GMT
#2333
I approve bulletproof vest.

Advice taken.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu96xMwFVXw
Mementoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada2595 Posts
April 03 2012 18:47 GMT
#2341
I dont understand the concept of Cursed Crown anyways, So you want to not only make my abilities useless. But you want me to automatically die. Your acting like I am confirmed scum. So by doing this, mafia will not kill me mafia will target someone else, then I die. So worst case scenario 2 town die for the price of one. >_>. I thought we were staying away from potential inventions that could end game the town.

Also it seems weird to me that JJ pretty much single handidly have been deciding which inventions Nisani makes, (colour radiator, scatter shot, attempted Cursed Crown). Also what is the point of giving Maverick the portal gun, its completely random. He can't even use without night action.

It almost seems like your trying to make a game winning move, by saying you have to do this to prove your town. If you don't your not town. While if you were scum and it all went correctly it would almost insta-win the game for you. I still don't think your scum based on these actions alone, as your track record before was pretty good. Aside from Dirk was wonky but I made the same mistake of judging him.

As for my opinion on the invention Im not sure yet. I see your point of bodyarmour being risky in the sense if scum gets it. But it seems hard to make an invention that can't be abuse by scum getting it. IE fake claims n such. Since I don't trust anyone being town 100% its hard to really decide.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu96xMwFVXw
Mementoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada2595 Posts
April 03 2012 22:44 GMT
#2362
Now that Foolishness is dead I think Nisani is definitely cell, not sure about who is scum yet.

Also I got the space core after foolishness self sacrificed himself. He either just sent it to me, or it automatically went to me cause its useless to everyone else.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu96xMwFVXw
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