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On April 03 2012 03:29 Nisani201 wrote:
We need to consolidate the votes. Anyone not voting for Maverick or Mementoss should switch now because we don't want a no-lynch.
@Foolishness - I would have made a bulletproof vest if you suggested one. Also I was not informed of taking a hit last night.
how about you switch...I mean we need two switches for mav....
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On April 03 2012 08:43 Nisani201 wrote:
derp
Derp indeed! You once more took an opportunity to screw town. Gratz. As you posted this:
On April 03 2012 03:29 Nisani201 wrote:
We need to consolidate the votes. Anyone not voting for Maverick or Mementoss should switch now because we don't want a no-lynch.
@Foolishness - I would have made a bulletproof vest if you suggested one. Also I was not informed of taking a hit last night.
The vote count was 3-2-1. You could have switched for your (as you indicate in your post) viable target mementoss to get him lynched. Instead you call out "ANYONE NOT VOTING FOR MAV OR MEMENTOSS" (say Maverick only). Nice. What happend this time? Did you again not look at the voting thread?
If you should happen to be town, you play terribly. But I doubt so.
On April 03 2012 10:34 Nisani201 wrote:
all in favor of me making a bulletproof vest say aye.
YAY more good ideas. I can't believe that people actually think this is a good idea (well, I do believe that mementoss thinks it is). Phagga come on, you're better than this.
Let's see. Player Nisani could give the bulletproof vest to: Phagga, Mav, Mem. Even if phagga is town as I think he is, it will easily be fetched by scum....This item is a terrrrrible idea.
Here's a good one. Designed for mementoss / mav:
Cursed Crown: Can't be giving away and only obtained through night kills. Vanished if player dies to lynch. Player can't use any night action whatsover and dies after one whole period.
This item can be given to scum (any good item will be obtained in a heartbeat or gets there rightaway). Make a bad item and give it to mementoss. if you're town, that's your chance to redeem yourself for your "I forgot that I actually can switch" vote...
I'll give Mav the Portal 2 gun on the other hand. It replaces night actions. He claims VT. If he gives it to anyone, he wants to use a night action and is confirmed scum!
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On April 04 2012 01:30 Maverick32x wrote:
I didn't claim VT.. I claimed Cop.. but you're in luck because its a Day action, so I'm good with the portal gun.. sinceI do have it, is there anyone you want me to check with it?
As for your Cursed Crown item, isn't that just putting a death counter on someone? I guess I'm not seeing the usefulness of it....
Ok cool. You can't use it if you don't have an action. This might actually help to prove your innocence...
yes, that's the point, a good item will get into scum hands either way....nisani should give it to memmentoss directly. it's negative and it will kill him. which is good.
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and why didn't you switch your vote away from phagga? that made no sense.
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Foolishness much love <3
On April 04 2012 03:47 Mementoss wrote:
I dont understand the concept of Cursed Crown anyways, So you want to not only make my abilities useless. But you want me to automatically die. Your acting like I am confirmed scum. So by doing this, mafia will not kill me mafia will target someone else, then I die. So worst case scenario 2 town die for the price of one. >_>. I thought we were staying away from potential inventions that could end game the town.
Also it seems weird to me that JJ pretty much single handidly have been deciding which inventions Nisani makes, (colour radiator, scatter shot, attempted Cursed Crown). Also what is the point of giving Maverick the portal gun, its completely random. He can't even use without night action.
It almost seems like your trying to make a game winning move, by saying you have to do this to prove your town. If you don't your not town. While if you were scum and it all went correctly it would almost insta-win the game for you. I still don't think your scum based on these actions alone, as your track record before was pretty good. Aside from Dirk was wonky but I made the same mistake of judging him.
As for my opinion on the invention Im not sure yet. I see your point of bodyarmour being risky in the sense if scum gets it. But it seems hard to make an invention that can't be abuse by scum getting it. IE fake claims n such. Since I don't trust anyone being town 100% its hard to really decide.
paragraph 1) Yes, I do think you're scum and that's the concept of the crown. The thought is that you, if you are scum (which you are), can't use night actions and die afterwards.
2) By the same logic an item goes to Mav which prevents actions. If he holds it and scum kills someone, he's not scum. If scum doesn't kill anyone (this might not apply due to foolishness sacrifice...) he is scum. It's that simple. What's not to understand? Or do you want me to give to who? So he can check whom's action?
3) It's not a game winning move. If this was bound to be a game winning move, I'd just go with the bulletproove vest and would got it. Why would I suggest otherwise. I do not sheep in mafia games. I know that a lot of people do this. I just thought the flavour didn't match the scum team this game (and not all falvour is irrevelant). If you look at the role, you can clearly see how it differs from other scums...
4) The only way to prevent an item to be abused right now, is to make it a negative effect. Which I suggested.
I do agree with foolishness on the next lynch. Mav get your shit together and vote Mementoss tomorrow. Nisani please do not invent anything which can be abused. Honestly a DT item might might be less abusable right now.
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On April 04 2012 05:27 Nisani201 wrote:
I already gave an item to jk.
I might make a day vig item.
NOOOOO. no nonooooooonooo.
NOOOOOOOO.
This is like the worst idea ever. seriously.
Scum will 100% know where to find it. This idea is soooo anti town. It makes me believe that foolishness is right about you.
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On April 04 2012 05:12 phagga wrote:
As for the item: How about an item that will reveal once the alignement of its owner at the beginning of the day? So if Nisani gives this item to Mementoss, we will know Mementoss alignement. Should Mementoss be killed, the killers alignment will be revealed. Like this, we would know if mementoss is on our side or not.
Also a bit powerfull, but perhaps the hosts allow it?
Or else just a single-use DT item, if possible with Vet-functionality (blocks 1 kp).
Do some of this. Phagga has reason again.
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what for? I mean, what do you plan to achieve with it considering who your options are for giving it to?
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I personally think a DT type of item is less abusable....
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ok I'll go to sleep, but whatever you do nisani. no vig item.
<3, mav
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Posting from phone. sirry for mistakes
Guys. It's kinda clear that everyone surviving is a result of foolishness sacrifice...I kinda expected something like this and indicated it in my last post. He thinks it's 5-1-1 now and I agree.
I also love how mementoss jumps from softaccusing me to "comfirmed town" without me doing anything. Let's honor our fallen friend by lynching the shit out of him! I'll do that once I get home from work.
VOTE MEMENTOSS
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Fallen friend = Foolishness; lynching the shit out off guy = mementoss
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nice...although he should habe died yesterday...
ok, I think it's evident that I am town now...and I have a busy day(again) today tom. I am sorry, but I thin everything has been said...
If I should die today, follow foolishness' lead. He's been right since the beginning of the game.
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Is it possible to invent the actual scattershot now? I mean it's perfect and was allowed before. if possible as a day use.
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On April 05 2012 09:33 Kenpachi wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2012 09:09 Jayjay54 wrote:
nice...although he should hat died yesterday...
ok, I think it's evident that I am town now...and I have a busy day(again) today tom. I am sorry, but I thin everything has been said...
If I should die today, follow foolishness' lead. He's been right since the beginning of the game. fixed 
You can sense that I had one or two beers :-)
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Well. the item can hardly be abused and assuming there is no night kill today, night use will suffice.
The portal 2 gun will serve as a town confirmation as well at this point. you should keep it one more night mav, ok?
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Hey guys, sorry I've been really busy.
First of all congrats town. With this game I am 4-0 in TL mafia  yaaay. I also reached endgame in all four games. I don't really get why I wasn't killed night two though...maybe just because of my dirk defence.
Some random thoughts to sum the game up.
My general play was ok and I think I at least gave some good inventions which helped winning the game. I talked a lot, too. My reads were OK in general...I fucked up dirk. Now that I we know Nisnai is scum two, most people I really pushed turned out scum.
veli: Impressive reads, seriously! I didn't think you were actually scum when I targeted you with the strings. I thought you at least got a vet ability or were totally bulletproof. I also thought it might come in handy.
dirk: His role was confusing flavour wise, thus I am still puzzled that he was scum. This was a real misread and probably my biggest mistake in this game. Will learn from that.
david: I loved how convinced you were in the obs QT that I am scum Still aren't over the Kaller game are you?
e: Why was gonzaw doublestacked? I mean he played well, but still...
Foolishness and kita also kudos for an amazing game.
Hosts: This has been an amazing ride. I loved this game a lot. Also props for punctuality. Thanks for making it happen.
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