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On March 09 2012 01:01 Caller wrote: fuck it i'm bored /in /in Ace Caller Chezinu tntked scum team u_u | ||
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I hit enter too fast. Anyway I don't think Katina is Lanaia and she (Katina) was coached in the recent Arkham. D1 lurker lynch is... well, there's always a better option than a lurker lynch, so I am against it. LAL? Uh, we chant it everyday and nothing happens: see recent Arkham. The real question is about lynching / no-lynching D1 and I am more for a lynch than passing the day. Did You know my Rattata is in the top percentage of Rattata? | ||
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My Rattata is in the top percentage of Rattata... | ||
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Jackal. You were the light in many games I've played and I don't want You gone. Caller should probably be ignored. He is aggressive and troll-like. If he is Mafia he loses thread presence early, if he is Town then he'll step his game up and we'll know what's going on. I agree with Jackal that Caller's case on DrH based on first "pro-town" usage is bullshit. Does this say much? Not that much, but I am more likely to believe that Jackal's town, Caller's tunnel visioned town/mafia and DrH is innocent. Also, I hope someone is making a redo of Operation Honeypot. Thing was amazing. Now let me catch up to the newest things. | ||
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Schworz is away too. Deconduo said he dislikes the way layabout plays and that's it, though he's EU so I think he'll come back in something like 4-5 hours. Bill Murray is playing a good game so far and I am really happy about that. jaybrundage, You voted Schworz really quick, then posted a list with people we should lynch and then voted Jackal, sup? You ask for cases, say other cases are bad and never make one Yourself, what's up man? | ||
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As for people who made cases today, You get something like +1 point for being Town or whatever, I just find it more likely for scum to join on bandwagons than creating cases themselves - I mean, why would they put themselves in a hard situation? We have a lot people who haven't voted(me included). D1 might end in a no-lynch. I'll rethink some things and maybe come up with someone. Even if some extreme lurking happens, I don't want to lynch a lurker, Mafia rarely lurks and if they do, it's because they suck. Thanks jaybrundage. Your response looks really good in my eyes, but I disagree with Jackal as scum. | ||
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On March 13 2012 03:44 Pandain wrote: sorry I've been sick the past 2 days, catching up now. Great! We have a lot of low-activity/no activity players who need to step up their games. My Rattata will defeat You all. | ||
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On March 13 2012 04:02 Jitsu wrote: I thought of the Mason thing. I reasoned that in a game with PM's, I couldn't foresee the need to have Mason's in the game, so I called bullshit. I'm done bringing the issue of lying up, again. If that is all you gleaned from my first ten posts of the game, then nothing I say now will change it. I don't understand You. Everyone is a Mason. PMs: This game has limited PMs. Everyone has the ability to choose to talk to two people for the game. Once you choose someone, you may talk to them in PMs for the remainder of the game. Once you choose someone, you cannot change your choice. If anybody chooses you, that does not count toward your two choices. You can decide who you want to talk with at any point in the game. Just PM me who you are talking to, and I will notify them. | ||
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On March 13 2012 05:22 Jackal58 wrote: Just because I fucking hate having the last post on a page. Hi Jackal. Guess You're aiming for a no-lynch then? | ||
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I am voting for the person who put the least effort into voting Jackal and this is Node. It's D1 and I don't want to lose him. We can verify his claim at any time. Also Jackal's Town: He gets roleblocked. Mafia loses 0.5KP every Night. Jackal's Scum: Thanks to basic math we might work out that he is lying about roleblocks. | ||
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On March 13 2012 06:08 prplhz wrote: Like, Rattata is a pokémon. A rat pokémon. A rat is a traitor. "Me and my Rattata needs friends" sounds a lot like you're the traitor trying to hint to scum that you're the traitor. You see what I'm saying? I'm not willing to consider that you're just saying this because you're insane and polish. I am trainer Joey and my Rattata is in the top percentage of Rattata . You can not even beat it with Reshiram . | ||
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speaking of dicks + Show Spoiler + My Rattata just defeated a Caterpie! It was really easy! | ||
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On March 14 2012 01:42 VisceraEyes wrote: I mean uh... Kurumi stop being unreasonably cryptic and trollish. If you're acting like a Town Jester/VI. Help us find scum or I'm going to either try and convince vigs to kill you or push for your lynch. (sorry GM or Qatol or whoever is about to berate me for my frustration) Penitenziagite! I jestem good ne zły pas! Laudari Kurumi est! | ||
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On March 14 2012 02:32 prplhz wrote: I'm all for a Kurumi lynch/vig. Don't shoot Caller. Być innocent! Hominem te esse memento! Bonitas regarde proszę! | ||
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Penitenziagite! | ||
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On March 14 2012 02:39 prplhz wrote: Can Kurumi please get a warning/modkill for repeatedly writing posts in Polish? It's polish-french-latin-english and one word in italian. Well, I hope it's enough though for You, since You don't want to understand me. | ||
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On March 14 2012 02:44 Katina wrote: <3 I haven't technically been absent. I have been reading through everything and you my dear sir looked worthy enough to say something to. Cool story, bro. You never mentioned me until I called you out. Was I bringing some unwanted attention towards you that made you feel the need to try and flip it back onto me? Are You getting coached this game? If yes, penitenziagite! Burn the heretics! | ||
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On March 14 2012 02:45 prplhz wrote: I don't really give a shit what it is, it's not English so you are deliberately making yourself impossible to understand to a lot of people in this game. This game is in English and you should be warned/modkilled for repeatedly writing posts in whatever language that was, you know this. I'm completely fine with you trolling around in English but you know not to speak Polish, especially when there's another Pole in this game though that doesn't affect how I feel about a warning/modkill. Caller is not Polish, afaik he changed his country because potatoes became a staple in his diet. AKA Caller trolling in real life. Prplhz, I think we should at least lynch a lurker tomorrow. Another no-lynch is bad. I wasn't quite supporting it D1, but as I did not want anyone to die from top3 candidates I think I was in favour of it, which in retrospective is dumb. | ||
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On March 14 2012 04:54 Ver wrote: Yes this is unacceptable. Please keep your posts on topic and in English. Are encrypted post OK? | ||
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On March 14 2012 19:19 Palmar wrote: No. Then I have no idea. | ||
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On March 15 2012 00:15 Caller wrote: You guys are having fun, so I'm going to focus on the real issues. Kurumi, you are an insult to Poles everywhere. The only thing you had to contribute in the past 24 hours was how I was not actually Polish. How dare you. More importantly than that, you pull this random trolling shit every time I've played with you for the last like 4 games. And you've also been mafia for those 4 games. I don't even need to cite evidence-people should perfectly understand how terribly you've been playing. If you have anything to say for yourself you should say it. Damn scum. tldr FOS KURUMI Caller, I gave You a free pass on Day 1 because of my Closed Casket memory. Please, stop trolling. You look like a 3rd party, but guess what, there's none in this game. That means You're either Traitor or Scum. The sad thing is, I saw how good You can play in PYPI and I don't see it there. That leaves me with You as the Traitor. Maybe You're self-proclaimed Village Idiot, huh? The only saving grace I see is Your claim, but I haven't seen the flip yet, so guess what? As long as I don't see the flip(and I think I won't see it) You're anti-town. Voting Caller. Can't wait to hear about shady Iraqis, really. irony | ||
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That's why Rattata and no other pokemon. Because trainer Joey in Generation II brags about his Rattata in phone calls. That's it. Also, I guess my play worked. I guess You're mad, jaybrundage? Tried to recruit it me but it failed? Got'cha, scum. I trolled on Day 1 on purpose: I wanted to attract scum to use their traitor guess on me and fail. The top percentage Rattata is a joke in the pokemon communities. Look it up. I could've picked pretty much any Dark-type pokemon or Ghost-type. Maybe even Psychic. Although not of this type, there's a great pokemon suitable for such a crumb if I would like to do it: Sudowoodo because it's "Imitation Pokemon" as a species, it mimics a tree. Or even freaking Ditto, the Transform Pokemon. There was no reason for me to go for Rattata other than trolling purposes. There are dozens of better pokemon for this. I am not scum/traitor. Since Caller has proven to be indeed the Day Vigilante, I am unvoting him, as my theory falls apart. Too bad for regular scum member, trolly enough for Traitor. Yes I am indeed a Dreamer. Yes, there's a person that I've told what was my plan during D1 today. Yes, I got the info about Dreamflower role being in-game. I guess it was my first clue, probably the most accurate one I am going to have, comparing it to the second one. If someone is wondering, my gibberish was inspired by Salvatore from Name of the Rose. He used to be a heretic, but then became a monk to save himself after the main group was crushed. It was a hint that I know more about things because I've seen a lot(and that it might be useless, because of clues). I have given everything I know here but the second clue. That's what I've got to say. I am innocent, just as my Salvatore-style gibberish said. I can't do fireworks here, I am really sorry. I am a passive role. I am voting jaybrundage. His reason is terrible and could only be scum-driven. I have told all of You some time ago that I won't let my lynch ever happen early into the game. I am Town. Jaybrundage and his team are mad about me not being the traitor, so they picked me as the lynch target instead, saying I'm traitor. I have given scum such a chance, but I am not going to let them use it. You could have pushed me Day 1, but You didn't. Guess, You were still wondering about me, huh? | ||
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On March 15 2012 05:49 Jackal58 wrote: [image blocked] Probably said too much about Pokemon, but it's relevant! | ||
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On March 15 2012 06:10 prplhz wrote: Also, jaybrundage said yesterday that he thought it looked like a traitor hint and that we should lynch you. Why the hell would he not just shut the hell up if he was scum and he really thought it was a real traitor hint? 1st: He was after Jackal58 day one. He believed he was scum. He dropped him, without any mention on D2 and jumped on me without any strong evidence. He's now gone too. I have no idea what's going there, but I think it's scummy. I don't know how his team decided to play it out. They were probably convinced I am really traitor so they made Jay go for easy cred in case I die or something and try to recruit me and go from there. But it failed, because I am not the traitor. But thanks to my trap they can use it to push my lynch, I knew it could backfire on me. I took the risk for the greater good. Hey Jackal, did You get roleblocked tonight? You haven't said anything so I guess no. | ||
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I saw the moment he called me traitor. Also, the "me and Rattata need friends" is about me not having anybody to pm. So I made the first step to making friends and used my two PM rights on Jackal and then on Palmar. I was bored. | ||
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"he" = jaybrundage | ||
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I am Town. I am Dreamer. I am passive informative role goddamnit. I trolled on purpose (but pokemon references have nothing to do with hinting traitor, it was PURE TROLLING) so scum would think I am traitor. I thought it was very strong to go for such a gamble when I can deny additional 0.5KP for a loooooooooooong long time. | ||
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I don't say it's scummy to think I am traitor. It means I've done good job. The problem with Your case is that You point out the "Pokemon hint" while it's not related to my traitor plan(it was just me roleplaying a Pokemon Trainer Joey). I understand people could get suspicious because of my trolling, but not because I was talking about Rattata damnit. That's I think it's scummy. It's like taking one word out of entire case and saying it's wrong. What I think: If I were really the traitor, I would've picked different thing to roleplay. It wouldn't be Pokemon Trainer Joey and Salvatore but someone like Illidan or Team Rocket Member(and probably go for a Zubat). I trolled to make me look like a traitor. I haven't done it subtle or correctly: character's I've played were neutral or stupid. If I were the real traitor I'd probably try to stay hidden and hint things from time to time, not risk my damn Blue life and troll hard. I thought Caller was Traitor but he proved he's Day Vigilante. I posted my reasoning already. You dreamt about mysterious figure watching people pass by during the day. You couldn't recognize their sex. When the night came, the person you saw before was busy searching for something. Suddenly, you were reading a book in your own bed with "Secrets are being unveiled" title. As soon as you read the title entire scene disappeared. You were once again on pitch black street and couldn't find the man or woman working secretly here before. A while passed with you standing just right in the middle of the street. You were sure it's not 21st century. While your thoughts were troubling you, an angry man showed in front of you out of nowhere, saying: - You have been warned before about violating our privacy! After that, you regained your consciousness. | ||
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On March 15 2012 07:34 DoctorHelvetica wrote: interesting how protactinium or ver wrote it stilted english similar to that of a non-native speaker Sandroba capitalizing "You" in my role pm once was so wrong. | ||
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XLIV I think. Hosted by GMarshal with Paladin theme. U_U | ||
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On March 15 2012 23:22 Curu wrote: Oh if there really is a Kingmaker then I think we can throw all assumptions of Normal game boundaries out the window -_- Kurumi's role is beyond belief still though. Additionally if he was Town and knew about the setup why wouldn't he post that information for all of us? It's already stated in the OP that Mafia has that information. No reason to keep it to himself. Die Kurumi die! SOME information. That means one thing, two things, three things maybe not the exact setup! (unless You're scum and know more than me, of course, then please go ahead and tell us Your secrets.) You would have lynched me Day 1 if I said "Guys stop voting Jackal, I know there's Dreamflower present in the game and I trust him". Your cases are laughable and make no sense. I did everything I could to defend Jackal from getting lynched. It's not the first I've defended someone hard D1. My defence of Schworz was the same thing, I was 3rd party back then, but I would've done that no matter what. Guess what happened after my death? Lynching him decided the game. I wanted to look as traitor D1 to deny Mafia their guess on gaining 0.5KP. You picked up on this, but did nothing till Day 2. It makes no sense. It's obvious this lynch is scum driven. It's obvious they've tried to recruit me and it failed, so they now want to get a free lynch. I was hinting it was a plan. My role is weird. I know that. Curu himself said that the Dreamflower role is weird but remember: role is not equal to alignment! I wanted to play without lying. Figures, it would have been better if I claimed Detective and said I had a Town check on Jackal, right? My lynch is pathetic. There's only Jackal and Katina semi-defending me. Don't You think it's weird? Doesn't it ring some bells? I did not lie. But I guess.. it probably doesn't matter. Jackal, I hope Palmar isn't serious about this lynch thing... When is it possible for Mafia to use Hide Flip mechanic? Can they sacrifice their KP in advance to hide lynch flip?(Like, they use it on D2 and lose KP on N2?) Please answer no to the second one. If they hide this flip they won not only this cycle, but another one too. | ||
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On March 16 2012 03:10 prplhz wrote: Post both dreams and an account of how and why you claimed. My first "dream" was info given to me at the start of the game saying that Dreamflower role is present in the game. The second dream I've posted already, it's indeed a dream and looks like a clue. I can't get much from it. I didn't want to post it so people would try to crack it, while I could dream about roles once more and get something better. I have claimed because I am the leading lynch candidate and I am Town so I want to avoid getting lynched obviously. "An account of how" what does it mean? Needs some help here. | ||
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On March 16 2012 03:17 layabout wrote: jitsu, since he replaced into storm on day 3 or 4, storm is perhaps not the best example of is town play. Instead look at games like thishttp://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=2this54174&user=68386 and other games here http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/search.php?q=mafia&t=c&f=-1&u=Kurumi&gb=date&d=&p=2 If you want to get an idea of his typical day 1 town play. You might want to take a look at his scum play too, and realise that this doesn't look much like it. You forgot this great game Rolling Vet is so cool in a PM game. | ||
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On March 16 2012 03:29 prplhz wrote: Tell me what you did and how, a lot of it happened in PM land and it's hard for people to follow unless you say what actually happened. Like, to my knowledge you actually claimed during night1 but now you're saying that you claimed because you are up for lynch which doesn't make much sense because you weren't up for lynch night1. Can you copy paste both dreams again, just for my convenience? Ask Palmar and Jackal. I hinted being an informative role. 1st clue/dream There's Dreamflower role present in the game. 2nd clue/dream You dreamt about mysterious figure watching people pass by during the day. You couldn't recognize their sex. When the night came, the person you saw before was busy searching for something. Suddenly, you were reading a book in your own bed with "Secrets are being unveiled" title. As soon as you read the title entire scene disappeared. You were once again on pitch black street and couldn't find the man or woman working secretly here before. A while passed with you standing just right in the middle of the street. You were sure it's not 21st century. While your thoughts were troubling you, an angry man showed in front of you out of nowhere, saying: - You have been warned before about violating our privacy! After that, you regained your consciousness. | ||
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On March 16 2012 04:06 Mattchew wrote: it has been brought to my attention that kurumi doesn't speak or type well enough in english to fake that dream. its too bold of him ##unvote People whole look really bad to me Abenson, Bill Murray, Curu, Sentinal, All are lurking and scummy EchelonTee, Gumshoe, Wiggles, Jaybrundage are also lurking but are slightly less scummy Uh, thanks I guess. I agree with a lurker lynch given our lack of time. We probably should aim at people like Abenson, EchelonTee or Schworz. Why Abenson: filter -His posts are one/two liners. -His cases start and end with a single adjective -Obviously lurks -Voted for Jackal D1 On March 15 2012 22:57 Abenson wrote: I'm kinda worried that the mafia will kill Caller tonight. That post makes no sense. He does not say "Hey guys, Caller might get targetted by scum tonight, we should get a medic to protect him" or "Caller is a good player this game, I think they might want to kill him", it's just like: Oh, Caller might die. Oopsies. Why EchelonTee: filter -Still has to voice his opinion on D2 lynch -Obviously lurks -His behaviour is different from D1 Saving grace: He was one of the few people to actually post a case and push it D1. He attacked Jitsu and got into an argument with him for a bit of time. Why rgTheSchworz: filter -1 post so far Saving grace: He actually defended Jackal who I think is Town and said he was busy travelling or something. Vote count D1 I hope more of You change the view on me. I am innocent. I want to help. | ||
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On March 16 2012 05:42 DoctorHelvetica wrote: I already know what's gonna happen someone is gonna say "kurumi is too easy of a lynch" that's how scum saved RoL for like 3 days in Storm Mafia. Wrong. He was left alone because of his low post count and incoming modkill for not voting. I am not going to flee away, because I will stand here and defend myself. I am not scum. I am the Dreamer. I am Town. You're tunelling me for some reason, why? I tried to explain it already that Rattata is not any "traitor hint". I was "fake claiming" through trolling. If I were traitor I'd use people like Illidan or Team Rocket Member, maybe Dark/Ghost-type Pokemon, Guy Fawkes, MAYBE EVEN TALK ABOUT FREAKING TEA. But I did not talk about that because I am NOT the traitor. | ||
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On March 16 2012 05:56 prplhz wrote: I still don't get your pokémon dreamer shit. Rattata was trained by Joey who is a dreamer or something like that? I'm not really into pokémon so you'll have to excuse me here. Pokemon have nothing to do with anything but trolling. There's one trainer You fight at the beginning of the game and his name is Joey. He only has a low-level Rattata. If You let him have Your phone number, he will call You from time to time bragging about his Rattata being in the "top percentage" of Rattata, thus one of the best, but Rattata is like one of the first Pokemon You can get and a very weak one. | ||
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On March 16 2012 06:13 prplhz wrote: So what? Why are you talking about that in a mafia game? Are you actively trying to mislead people? I am trying to explain why it was Rattata and no other pokemon. That's how it started. You said Rattata means rat and rat means traitor. I disagree. If I were traitor and wanted to hint that I am one I'd use a pokemon like Ekans or Seviper, the Poison-type snakes. Maybe Zoroark, a Dark-type Pokemon which disguises as others. There are a lot of pokemon which would do the job better if I were real traitor. But I am not. I just wanted to troll and bait with a theme. I picked Trainer Joey and played as him. I need to go soon. I'd really, really like You to rethink this entire situation. I haven't lied to You. I wanted to look like a traitor D1 to deny Mafia's guess on traitor, I later hinted this plan to Jackal in PMs. Before the lynch situation arose I gave him insight on the plan I had. I knew that Dreamflower existed from the very beginning. I got a clue-dream D2. Also Mafia might hide today's flip and they'll WRECK the Town because of that. I hinted being a blue "knowing more than others" in PMs to Jackal and Palmar. It makes perfect sense for Mafia to go for me on D2. I knew it was a risk, but I thought You'll see how I have planned it out. I thought You'd understand. I am not a mastermind of things such as Operation Honeypot, but I think my plan was good. | ||
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On March 16 2012 06:46 prplhz wrote: You knew there was a dreamflower and no one had counter claimed Jackal58 so you knew he was the dreamflower. dreamflower is a town role so you knew he was town. Why didn't you just trust him completely and tell him about your crazy plan instead of just hinting it? It still doesn't matter, you hinted it after people had already called you out for it. If you really thought it was a good idea to try to hint that you were the traitor in the thread then you really need to start thinking things over. There are 18 townies looking for people trying to claim traitor and only 4 scum, who do you think is likely going to see it first? I'm not really worried that there are other types of pokémon, because I don't know those other types. You are probably the only one in this game who knows so much about pokémon so it makes perfect sense to use Rattata because it looks like you're the traitor while you can just make up some excuse if people call you out. It's also weird that you're trying to implement crazy plans when you have a potentially very powerful role. Good luck on your geography test. http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Rattata_(Pokémon) http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Normal - type Rattata is http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Dark_(type) - type of pokemon I'd use as a traitor(I repeat: I am not scum. I am not traitor. I am the Dreamer. I am Town.). Look closely at Japanese meaning. Maybe You'll understand why. Thanks. | ||
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And my lynch was stupid. Besides couple of people saying that it's been written in terrible english many started chanting "kill him" and the entire case started on D2 instead of D1 with quote of my post saying about Rattata and me needing friends (I though about PM buddies there, lol) as it was an alegory of Traitor trying to find scumbuddies, because rats are traitors. So stupid. | ||
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On March 29 2012 02:14 Curu wrote: Kurumi your entire claim was so unbelievable and obviously made up that it should have been obvious to everyone you were 100% Mafia. A Town role that just receives info about the setup? Really? And it just happened to give you stuff about Dreamflower who was being discussed? A Coroner spin-off. Considering it was a half-flip game, an information role checking dead people was likely(or, in that case confirming roles being present). The Dreamflower knowledge was logical - I defended Jackal D1 without a claim and backed it up D2. Nothing wrong here. | ||
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On March 29 2012 05:48 DoctorHelvetica wrote: it was a bad claim and the poor english made it more obvious, should have went with my DT mason plan English mine good is. Go suck lollipopers. Yeah I probably should go with "You get role every day" thing, would've been easier. | ||
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On March 29 2012 05:53 VisceraEyes wrote: First we make expand. Then we defense it. Nonono, First we defense expand, then we make it. | ||
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