TL Mafia LII: JubJub Mafia

On March 12 2012 03:30 jaybrundage wrote:
In response to gumshoe I think withholding information is completely fine. This would mostly affect our blues. If someone is role fishing you and you dont trust them then not giving them information. By ignoring the question or even straight up lying in that instance is fine.

Also I am firmly with the policy lynch all liars however more in the thread then pms. In Arkham City we had Rg lying multiple times in the thread making it hard for the town to get information, and completely discrediting himself. End game the town ended up lynching him Because they could not trust him at all. If he had been gone sooner town would have been better off. Also if we put this policy/guideline in place it will discourage people from blatantly lying, fake roleclaiming, and so on.

Regarding PMs i think that they would be better saved for late game usually. Announcing who you are PMing should be fine. I can see both arguments so it should be up to the individuals discretion although i am leaning on announcing.

This players have not posted in the thread yet. And i suggest we lynch one of them.

Katina
VisceraEyes
Node
[Uon]Sentinel
Pandain
RgTheSchoworz
Curu

On March 12 2012 04:01 Mattchew wrote:
so can someone explain to me why keeping your talking buddies private is helpful to town?

What i want to know is who people were talking to outside of thread before they die. It seems very helpful to scum to not reveal who they are PM'ing and kill them off if they are suspicious of them and we don't want to hold them accountable for being in talks with them?

On March 12 2012 07:22 layabout wrote:

"Hey i think we should share who we PM" - this is dumb pro-mafia sheeping

"I still think that we should announce our PMs but i am less sure than i was earlier because i am not sure if town are buying this crap"

so yeah lets kill Jaybrundage
Vote: jaybrundage

On March 11 2012 15:08 Mattchew wrote:

if i see a good veteran pm a not so good newbie that will raise an alarm really quickly.

On March 13 2012 01:21 Curu wrote:
I also don't buy this "don't lynch him yet, he's a good player etc etc" there is only one person I would extend this rule to and that is Mig because he is a crushing Town player and an awful scum player. You lynch based on who you think has the highest probability to flip scum, way back in the day when I was on the scumteam we were able to pull out a dominating victory because people kept pushing "don't lynch Curu/chaoser/Mig/etc yet because they are good players (we were all scum)," ended up constantly lynching newbies and Palmar, who was the one pushing pretty hard for all 3 of us. was then killed. Palmar's cases faded from memory and we cruised through the rest of the game.

Sentinel's vote is even worse, there are different merits and failures for sharing/not sharing who you are PMing. Neither option is inherently pro Town or pro Mafia, wanting a lynch on him because he advised sharing who you PM with is absurd.

On March 13 2012 06:37 Jitsu wrote:


As far back as I remember it, it is.

On March 14 2012 04:20 gumshoe wrote:


Traitor was brought back wasn't he?

someone ask in green! I dont know how.

On March 14 2012 04:53 gumshoe wrote:


Sentinal I thought we got the traitor back because I pmed syl before the start of the game and he mentioned it had been returned, why did you think the traitor was back?

On March 15 2012 01:14 Caller wrote:

Wait what?

On March 15 2012 02:25 Bill Murray wrote:
yeah sentinel
we expect you to be like HI GUYS IM THE TRAITOR

On March 15 2012 05:22 EchelonTee wrote:

did caller actually pm sentinel, or is someone lying?

On March 15 2012 05:58 EchelonTee wrote:

1. It makes utterly no sense to frame you, and I don't even think scum can frame someone as traitor.
2. Caller is implying that what you said makes no sense, or is false. I'll wait to see what he says

Frame: Cost .5KP makes a player appear as mafia for 1 night cycle.

On March 15 2012 07:02 Mr. Wiggles wrote:

Sentinel, why do you make no sense at all? If Caller believes you're the traitor, it probably means that he thinks you're the traitor based on your behaviour, not because he's a detective/is in contact with a detective. I don't get how you're making the logical leap to that. =/

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Kurumi, you've already claimed, so would you mind explaining exactly how your role works and what it does? I've tried searching it up, but I can't find anything specific, and it doesn't mean your role is the same.

Hi, I rolechecked you last night and found out that you're the traitor. What do you have to say for yourself?