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EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5262 Posts
March 17 2012 23:14 GMT
#1304
On March 18 2012 06:40 Mattchew wrote:
Caller is good lynch I'll switch my vote tomeroq happy at Patricks day

Yaaaaaaaaaaa

caller doesn't rly give any good leads after this b/c of his chaotic posting though -.- his connections to people seem to have swapped at his random whim. I guess VE had a correct read way back when. Should look at palmar 's reads, cuz, you know he's flipped town.
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5262 Posts
March 18 2012 18:24 GMT
#1315
@wiggles i wouldn't initially say anything against ur list (except for the fact that it is a list and lists suxxors), but i don't like how u presume that decon is town. he's leaning on the scummy side of things for me; is there any reason that he looks better than the other people on your list?
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5262 Posts
March 19 2012 02:05 GMT
#1354
On March 19 2012 10:27 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
I forgot to vote. T.T


Obviously scum who tried to resist caller lynch


+ Show Spoiler +
jk <3
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5262 Posts
March 19 2012 02:13 GMT
#1357
On March 19 2012 08:34 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
As scummy as JB is he does have a point. Only because there was obvious resistance to the Kurumi lynch (scum) which was even more convincing than this one which has basically no resistance at this point.


I don't get how you can say with a straight face that kurumi was more obvious than caller. Kurumi trolled, did a weird traitor thing, and had a botched role claim, which sufficiently distracted town, but in a confusing manner only. Caller up and shot palmar with no provocation, which was blatantly against town in Egbert sense of the word. I have a hunch that scum went all in b/c they knew they had to take down palmar now or never.

All we have to do is wait for this flip.... THs cycle is critical for town
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5262 Posts
March 19 2012 02:18 GMT
#1359
Egbert = every, THs = this
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5262 Posts
March 19 2012 03:25 GMT
#1362
woot!

guess we can't play the "you didn't vote for caller you're scum!!!11!!" game
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5262 Posts
March 19 2012 03:28 GMT
#1364
people should finish claiming who they pm'd and why by tonight, imo
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5262 Posts
March 19 2012 04:18 GMT
#1373
On March 19 2012 13:07 Mattchew wrote:
also decon, you may want to think of checking the PM's of caller or kurumi

can you check pm of dead people? also decon ur list has Node on the living portion
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5262 Posts
March 19 2012 05:13 GMT
#1380
On March 19 2012 13:51 Bill Murray wrote:
I KNEW IT, CONFIRMED TOWN RIGHT HERE


gawd not this confirmed town nonsense again -_-
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5262 Posts
March 19 2012 05:16 GMT
#1381
On March 19 2012 13:30 jaybrundage wrote:
Nice, Towards the end of the day i was skeptical we would killing a townie. Glad to see i was wrong.

androba is looking pretty townie atm wouldn't be surprised if scum tried killing her.

Rofl kinda sucks for scum. The two people that replaced into this game are town powerhouses Palmar and Sandroba.

I still think Katina is a good lynch. I dont like how many lurkers we have had this game.

Im gonna be going thru filters and try to find more scum.

why exactly are u saying sandroba is pretty townie at this point when it's not under discussion? there's no reason to bring that up; calling people townie if they are green juts puts a target on their back (scum want to shoot people already think are town, not people who have suspicion), and if they are red, then ur juts giving them cred for free.

i hope u legitimately go thru filters and scum hunt; I'll be posting my reads right before deadline
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5262 Posts
March 19 2012 05:19 GMT
#1382
On March 19 2012 12:44 Jitsu wrote:
I'm not entirely surprised by the flip. After looking at the way the roles worked, it seems there is a negative to balance out the positive aspect of the role.

Jackals role was a vig that died if he chose poorly.
Deconduo is a Detective that checks PM lines.

It would make sense since the numbers seemed to favor town that the more vanilla type roles without the down side would be scum based. IE: day vig with two bullets.

Any thoughts on lunches tomorrow? I'm partial to Katina at the moment, still.

I agree with what ur saying; this also means we should avoid making undue assumptions about the setup. it is a closed setup after all, we should focus on case building / reads until it comes to a mass claim stage.

for lunch i'd like a burrito. miss mexican food
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5262 Posts
March 19 2012 19:22 GMT
#1399
On March 20 2012 03:43 sandroba wrote:
So did decon claim anything useful about his powers so far? There was supposed to be 2 kills ytd right? I don't think scum would trade 1 kill for a .5 power so something is off.

it looks like he claimed that he can check someone for who they pm'd, and who is pming them. it's a pretty weak role, but his info doesn't seem like it could be faked.

if someone was shot, it could've been helpful to claim it (not the medic obvi), bit late for that. imo it's kind of wifom-y to worry about that too much; scum could've used cover, RB, anything.
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5262 Posts
March 19 2012 19:48 GMT
#1400
On March 20 2012 02:14 sandroba wrote:
I can't really buy into the idea that all mafia bussed kurumi and caller opted not to enjoy the free town cred.

caller being off kurumi means he doesn't get free town cred yah, but when he shot palmar any remaining he cred 0'd out. maybe scum bussed kurumi, leaving caller off just incase it ended up nolynch, knowing that they were going to use caller as a suicide bomber
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5262 Posts
March 20 2012 03:00 GMT
#1414
My 2 main mafia suspects have been posting in quite a different manner, but the common thread between them is their apathy. There have been a number of lurkers in the game, but these two in particular have tried in different ways to remain under the radar and not stick their necks out, while town shouts at itself into chaos.

Abenson

On March 11 2012 13:42 Abenson wrote:
Alright, checking in to the game.
Goal #1: Make all my post contain 3+ lines.

For the day 1 lynch I think we should just lynch the lurkers to force them to talk.


Abenson opened the game saying that he would try and post longer/with more content (3+ lines). quite obviously, he has not done so this game, but unlike other lurkers that come in and state strong opinions on things from time to time, Abenson has literally said nothing all game long.

For every lynch, he has simply agreed with whatever following had the most votes, completely and utterly taking away any responsibility he could have in these lynches. Not only that, but in this post he puts his suspicion on both of the leading candidates, so that no matter what happens or who flips what, he was there, by not being there.

His words on caller have been equally strange. He earlier simply says caller is "trolling" and we should ignore him, then N2 (when caller openly says he will shoot palmar), Abenson states "im worried mafia will shoot caller". This encourages people to see caller as not being serious about claiming a future shot on palmar, so that caller can make it to the day and pow pow palmar. then in the day, he leaves one post: "caller looks the best. voting him. toodles~"

This level of active lurking should not be ignored anymore.

Mr. Wiggles

I've been pming wiggles for a while and I thought he was town for a while, but the more I think about it the more I do not like him. His initial post was pretty strong and logical, but for the rest of the game he does nothing to match this. Wiggles has been in a position of knowledge (able to talk to palmar, myself, a bunch of others through pm network) and has had several days to form opinions and stuff. I hate it when people on D1 say stuff like "oh foolishness ur scum because you haven't exposed the entire scum team yet, GO TO WORK", but by D3/4, known players like Wiggles should have taken a strong stance somewhere.

wiggles has not provided any direction, only asking questions of others to appear like he is being pro-town. The only time that wiggles ever takes a stance of any type is when he posts this list, where he also randomly calls deconduo town based off of pms. I wouldn't mind this kind of post D1. On D3/N3, wiggles is essentially saying "lynch into this list and we will strike scum. but uh don't lynch me", while not giving any reasoning whatsoever.

The kicker, for me, comes from my conversation in PMs and Wiggles' stance on Palmar: Wiggles and I talked about a number of thread topics, and he always replied with a fairly consistent post length, in terms of content and depth (standard paragraph)
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5262 Posts
March 20 2012 03:02 GMT
#1415
1 min before deadline have to post now, will elaborate if im still around. but both of these ppl vote without taking any responsibility, letting other people take the falls for them. they be scummin
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5262 Posts
March 20 2012 03:08 GMT
#1417
EBWOP: Guess post isn't going up yet, last paragraph from my big one should be this:

The kicker, for me, comes from my conversation in PMs and Wiggles' stance on Palmar: Wiggles and I talked about a number of thread topics, and he always replied with a fairly consistent post length, in terms of content and depth (standard paragraph). but on the topic of palmar (and mattchew), wiggles posted wayy more analysis and reasoning about why he felt palmar was suspicious, especially considering jackal's town flip.

The fact that he put a lot more on this (pm was 2.5x length), while ignoring the fact that palmar took out kurumi, and other aspects of the game in general, makes me feel that he was tryign to get me to push palmar (i had earlier said I would push palmar if jackal flipped green). It's weird that he would put a lot of effort into that push, a push made out of thread and towards a newbie, and if I had gone for it and palmar flipped green, I would take the fall for him completely.

overall wiggles don't take responsibility. yah.
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5262 Posts
March 20 2012 03:16 GMT
#1418
I didn't get the time wrong right? deadline is around now?
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5262 Posts
March 20 2012 03:33 GMT
#1424
On March 20 2012 12:24 sandroba wrote:
I'm waiting to see if I'll have to read 70 pages of stuff or not.

looks like ur still in for the long haul brudder

@layabout any scumhunting yet?
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5262 Posts
March 20 2012 07:53 GMT
#1429
Mattchew, can you post the pm logs I sent you btwn me and wiggles, shared as google doc maybe? Don't have access to cpu atm.

I'll respond to wiggles tomorrow.

Did everyone glaze over palmar's dt check?
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5262 Posts
March 20 2012 22:29 GMT
#1506
On March 20 2012 18:56 Bill Murray wrote:
Sandroba and Mr. Wiggles, thanks for being obvious scum pushing an easy mislynch on me
Expect a big post about these two and EchelonTee tomorrow; i've got you guys, take off your hats, royalty is entering the room

....what?
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
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