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gunman103
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gunman103
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On February 29 2012 07:00 Maverick32x wrote: This is my first game, but I found a lot of information here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=301748 Thanks man, reading it now | ||
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gunman103
United States84 Posts
On March 01 2012 12:14 DimmuKlok wrote: I too feel that we should push for a lynch on day one. Mafia has nothing to lose with with a no lynch on day one, where the town loses the potential for more information with a lynch. That's why it's crucial that everyone posts their opinions on topics and stays active so we can get reads on everyone. I agree. However, we will lose our number advantage more rapidly if we do lynch someone just for the sake of lynching. If there's no potential for information to be gained by lynching him, then we should not do so. | ||
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gunman103
United States84 Posts
On March 01 2012 12:57 Sufficiency wrote: How many townies do we have? We should random lynch if we have a free lynch. 9 townies, 3 mafia atm. Not very good odds for getting a mafia in a random lynch imo. We should play it smart and only lynch to get information or to kill mafia. Not just blindly hope to get a mafia by pure luck. | ||
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gunman103
United States84 Posts
On March 01 2012 13:02 Sufficiency wrote: No. We are better off to RL lynch someone. Town typically cannot kill players, so RL every day is required unless it cannot be afforded. I'm just saying that we should lynch people to get information. RL is fine if we have no suspicions to go on and it should be used as a last resort imo. I'm not opposed to RL, but there are better alternatives. | ||
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gunman103
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gunman103
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#1 Tiystus- He was fine with randomly killing someone early on but then changes his mind later. Seems like one of his scum friends told him what to say. He also never seems to make a decision on anything. #2 Pablols- I think that he overreacted to Mementoss and accuses him with no real reason other than that he was accused by Mementoss. Also, he accuses trackdoor pretty early on in the game with no real evidence against him other than "he is trying too hard to prove his innocence without real proof" a weak argument imo. Mementoss would probably be third simply because he left out a lot of Pablol's statement and left out crucial information. Seems like a scummy thing to do imo. You should never intentionally misquote someone, even though it probably was an accident, you never know. | ||
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gunman103
United States84 Posts
On March 02 2012 12:06 Pablols wrote: Just to clarify I accused mementoss because of the misquote issue, that's it. Other people have called me out but I have had no reason to suspect them and I didn't accuse them. For example, your post, there is no reason to suspect anything. But like I said, misquoting is dangerous play and shouldn't be taking lightly. Even if he isn't part of the mafia, in my opinion, he could be dangerous to the town. Regarding the trackdoor accusation I already took that back, "Regarding my first post, the 2 liner one, I must admit it was pretty bad. It's the first time I play mafia and I am still getting the hang of it. When I posted that I hadn't even finished reading the guide to mafia threads. I don't blame you guys because it does look suspicious. After getting a better understanding of how this works I retract that statement, I do not suspect Trackdoor." I read your post again and I was wrong. Sorry for the misinterpreting what you said. For all it's worth Tiystus is still #1 and mementoss is #2. | ||
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gunman103
United States84 Posts
On March 02 2012 12:45 Sufficiency wrote: I say we lynch OtoshimonoU or gunman103 Can you at least give us a reason for wanting to lynch me and Oto? | ||
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gunman103
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On March 03 2012 08:35 Mementoss wrote: Gunman, did you honestly think this would go un-noticed? I thought I would go eat and give you time to give some time to give reasoning in the thread. Its been a half hour. You'd think you would post reasoning before running straight to the vote thread. You do realize voting without trying to at least convince your case/state your opinions in the thread is very suspicious play? The below is hardly reasoning. This vote seems very selfish, and mafia motivated. Give some more reasoning behind this choice and why is this vote a better vote than OtoshmonoU? Why didn't you like the OtoshmonoU evidence that was given by a couple different people in this thread. It seems like you wanted vote without bringing attention to yourself, and to split the town into a no-lynch situation. You even said it yourself, if your going to lynch you need a strong case. What is your strong case in this situation? Later in the above quote you said lynching a lurker would be better than lynching without a strong case, however your reasoning behind voting tiystus didn't mention anything about you thinking him, because he was a lurker. And if you were to vote for a lurker, wouldn't Beorn be a better case as he has the least amount of posts, and has given no kind of read yet? Your move gunman. Alright, I'll change my vote. I suppose I didn't really get a good enough read on oto and focused to much on lurkers. Now that I look at his posts, he does look suspicious. I suppose I thought that lynching a lurker would be better than killing a potential town because lynching a lurker wouldn't actually hurt us all that much because they don't add anything to the discussion, where as if we he turns out to be town, we wouldn't get his input. | ||
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gunman103
United States84 Posts
On March 03 2012 09:05 Mementoss wrote: Im not trying to post this in an aggressive way, although it sounds that way. You don't have to change your vote im just saying it seems suspicious and you should back up your actions, while or before you take them. I guess I should stick to my guns more. But you did bring up a good point and I did contradict myself now that I look back on it. And thanks for bringing oto to my attention. I guess I just got sloppy and let him slip by without getting a decent read on him. | ||
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gunman103
United States84 Posts
On March 03 2012 09:10 trackd00r wrote: Wow, nice find mementoss. Gunman, now tell us why you want to lynch oto. You haven't given a reason why yet. The main reason I am voting for him is because of what he said in this post + Show Spoiler + Just a small opinion, Mr.Maverick and Mementoss are controlling the game and thoughts of the game in the Town's perspective. It's possible that they are using an aggressive method of mafia using long persuasive paragraphs . I read Maverick's post and feel he has absolute trust and certainty in Mementoss's accusations and posts. Maybe they just have a connection and my theory is wrong. It's true that they do have a connection and it does to me, seem very strong even if they might be just fellow towns that understand each other's logic. I don't feel the suspicion from neither lurkers nor the accused, they are just new and will not be able to write long constructive ideas without a single clue of evidence nor understanding the underlying message of people's posts. So what I see Mementoss has been giving pressure and Maverick is the back up. As scums they have nothing to gain by saying nothing and not gaining the control of the situation whenever. Those two have most likely the highest amount of posts that will swerve opinions over people. Also Maverick, you need to write something about your own behaviors in your own organization sheet or you just seem to avoid any fault in your own posts. "Mr.Maverick and Mementoss are controlling the game and thoughts of the game in the Town's perspective. It's possible that they are using an aggressive method of mafia using long persuasive paragraphs" It seems to me like he was trying to turn the town against the ones who were directing and keeping the town on track at the time. It seemed like he was trying to destabilize the whole town by getting rid of Maverick and Mementoss, allowing the mafia to just lurk as we fought among ourselves. "I don't feel the suspicion from neither lurkers nor the accused, they are just new and will not be able to write long constructive ideas without a single clue of evidence nor understanding the underlying message of people's posts." It seems as though he is defending his mafia friends using the argument that they are new and will naturally stay quiet, a weak argument imo. Even if he is town, I don't follow his logic because lurkers are almost always bad and usually shouldn't be tolerated because they add nothing to the game. | ||
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gunman103
United States84 Posts
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gunman103
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On March 06 2012 11:41 Maverick32x wrote: So I'll stick to my theory that Sbrubbles and Sufficiency are probably not mafia based on their opportunity to kill Oto on the first night and passing it up.. that leaves: trackd00r Rainmaker5 Maverick32x DimmuKlok gunman103 As some of our *active* possible culprits...Obviously the lurkers make it difficult... but there's some thoughts!! Out of all of the people you listed, Rainmaker is definetly most suspicious and the most likely to be scum. I propose that we lynch rainmaker when day 3 comes around. Even if he is town, which he probably isn't, what are we really going to lose? A useless lurker who hasn't posted anything in almost 3 real life days, who also promised an analysis that never came. I really doubt that trackdoor and maverick are scum. If we lynched either of them, it would be a loss for all of us. It is possible that dimmuklok is scum, but again, it's doubtful compared to rainmaker. As for me, make up your own mind, but I think rainmaker should certainly be the next person to look hard at. | ||
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gunman103
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