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On March 10 2012 10:02 Probulous wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2012 09:18 deconduo wrote:
If it was a normal player, he would be 2nd on my scumlist after paper1. However its Pandain who rolls a dice to decide what to do each day:
1. Claim mafia
2. Claim tracker
3. Lurk
4. Spam
5. Lose the game
6. Win the game
I've never been able to read him properly, its what makes him a meh town player but a deceptively dangerous mafia player. If I was to go with my gut I'd say town2. However the only way to know for sure is when he flips. What happened between 1 and 2? You do realise you read is useless right? You're basically saying he is a "meh" town player but if he is mafia we should watch out. Your gut says town but your head says scum. You couldn't be more diplomatic if you tried. I find it really odd that he has made a concerted effort to buddy with you. You have no opinion on this? You're a fat null for me right now and that is not good enough on Day 3. I had you pegged as town but you are not helping us, so please try and provide something useful.
Its not a read, I'm telling you Pandain is unreadable. He does crazy shit all the time, it has no bearing on his alignment. His fake Tracker claim, him disappearing for a day, him buddying me. That's all typical Pandain play, whether town or mafia.
If you want useful reads:
-Paper is SK.
-Probulous, Toast are town
-Snarfs, Blue, AKCT are scum.
If only one person dies tonight then that will change as it would probably mean no SK and Paper is telling the truth about being vig.
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Also I really hate talking during the night, it only helps mafia.
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On March 10 2012 10:42 Probulous wrote:
Those are very strange reads. If I had pick one townie out of everyone here it would be Snarfs.
Why? He has flip flopped the whole game. Look at this post:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=315210¤tpage=25#495
Then this quote:
On March 09 2012 07:19 Snarfs wrote:
While I know there are a few people who I've pointed out as being shady, Paperscraps right at the top of the list.
The just two hours later, he defends Paper and pushes the lynch on Adam instead:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=315210¤tpage=35#681
Also this comment of his annoyed me:
On March 07 2012 04:04 Snarfs wrote:Show nested quote +Not sure, what you are trying to get at here. You are saying that my voting of Decon is unjustified. Then Decon foses me with very little reasoning and that isn't OMGUS? Double standard. No comment here. I agree, Decon FoSing you was silly.
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On March 10 2012 10:25 Snarfs wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2012 10:16 deconduo wrote:
If you want useful reads:
-Paper is SK.
-Probulous, Toast are town
-Snarfs, Blue, AKCT are scum. Yikes! Does this mean I'm dying tonight and you want to look like you had no clue when I flip, or do you have something to back that up?
Its posts like this that make me think you are scum.
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-There are 3 town, 2 mafia and 1 SK alive.
-Mafia have a medic.
-If we lynch the SK we lose, unless there is a town vet or medic around to absorb a hit.
-Bluellightz is scum: He jumped on the Sandroba BW when it was over. He posts this which is completely untrue:
On March 10 2012 12:34 Bluelightz wrote:
After counting math, today, we NEED to lynch the SK
3-2-1 split isn't good.
Here is the possible resuslts if we lynch scum today
1-1-1(1 kp town, 1 kp scum)
2-1-0(1 kp scum, 1 kp SK{but if the sk has not been shot yet it will be 2-1-1}
If we kill the SK we are almost guaranteed to lose. The only way we can win is if the SK kills a mafia tonight, which can't happen if he's dead.
##Vote Bluelightz
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On March 10 2012 21:02 Bluelightz wrote:
Yeah decon I realized it but didnt bother to correct sorry :|
How does Mafia have a medic(the sandroba hit?)
Explanation for all that:
-11 town + 3 mafia would be very townsided, unless mafia had 3 PRs. As sandroba flipped goon this is not our setup.
-10 town + 4 mafia is a more balanced setup, but then it would be 3-3 and the game would be over.
-11 town + 2 mafia + SK would be too weak for mafia
-Therefore it must be 10 town, 3 mafia, 1 SK.
-Mafia must have a medic as SK hit sandroba night one and was saved. He didn't flip vet and no town medic has come forward to claim the save.
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On March 12 2012 01:11 Bluelightz wrote:
I am now going to vote TheToast cause I think he is scum.
##Vote: TheToast
I think that TheToast and deconduo are trying to make a web of lies (Make town think there is a mafia medic/vig)
Please explain the following if there isn't a mafia medic:
-There has to be a Serial Killer
-There is absolutely no reason for Mafia or the Serial Killer not to have shot night 1
-Sandroba claimed hit
-No town medic has claimed saving Sandroba
-Sandroba wasn't a vet
-Therefore, a mafia medic MUST have saved Sandroba.
Also Toast is arguing the exact opposite of me, saying that there isn't an SK, and that Sanroba could have lied. I'm not so sure he is town anymore.
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On March 10 2012 12:54 TheToast wrote:
Again, what makes you so sure SK double stakced on Jakal or Palmar? If the SK exists, they could have chosen to not submit a night hit. Strange that you would jump to conclusions....
That's a really bad assumption. There is almost no reason for an SK not to shoot.
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If we lose to a modkill this will be utterly depressing.
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On March 12 2012 10:29 Probulous wrote:Given he hasn't posted since the 9th I don't have much confidence in him  Show nested quote +On March 10 2012 10:16 deconduo wrote:
If you want useful reads:
-Paper is SK.
-Probulous, Toast are town
-Snarfs, Blue, AKCT are scum. Do you stand by these reads? Obviously not Paper but they others.
Not so much anymore. I was most confident in you being town and Paper being SK. The fact that Paper flipped vig has fucked with my confidence a lot. I'm also worried about the complete lack of resistance to the bluelightz lynch, though a blue+AKCT scumteam would explain that a lot.
If that's the case, it would mean that the SK lies between you snarfs and toast. Now, an SK can play just like a townie, and they tend to be a lot harder to catch. I've been flippping through filters and Toast's last couple of posts seem off to me.
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##Unvote
##Vote Probulous
Sorry prob
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That was closer than intended 
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On March 12 2012 12:01 Probulous wrote:You assholes We played, game over guys. One time, just one time I would like to win and I got so close 
Were you SK?
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On March 12 2012 12:03 Probulous wrote:
Yup, I am indeed the SK
Sweet, I was worried there for a minute that we fucked up. We were fairly confident though.
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Finally, something good happened in this long and terrible day. Well played guys, its always nice to have a game that goes right down to the wire. Now I can get some fucking sleep
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