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ghost_403
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Also, lurkers, stop lurking. You're really hurting the town at this point. | ||
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On March 04 2012 03:53 Chocolate wrote: EBWOP those bottom three people (phagga, nightfury, zellblade) are the ones i'm most suspicious of right now. I'll finish my scum team with tessubject803. I think I have at least two right, but I'm on the fence about ghost, the hydras (need to reread their posts because I have them confused a little), and sloosh. @Chocolate What makes you think that neither Alderan or DoYouHas is scum? | ||
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I really don't like lynching people while they aren't here. That being said, I'm probably going to end up voting for either Alderan or DoYouHas. Leaning towards Alderan at the moment. More on this as it develops. | ||
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His voting pattern day 1 left a bad taste in my mouth, he refuses to stick to his guns, and I think he pushes weak cases to hide the fact that he's scum. That, and all the stuff that everyone else brought up. | ||
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On March 06 2012 03:44 DoYouHas wrote: + Show Spoiler + I can't believe you are all willing to ignore the primary suspicion of 2 flipped townies. And ignore both of their town reads on me. And not be suspicious of slOosh who pushed HARD a case that attacked 2 townies. No, he gets away from that mess perfectly clean.... why? slOosh's immediate response to the 'realization' that he had just spearheaded another townie was to blame it on everyone else. And now even though he just incorrectly pegged Alderan, he is perfectly confident that in spite of his own bad scumhunting and Alderan's defense of me, the other half of his initial case must be right. How is anyone possibly buying this? Just as a fun exercise, let's look at slOosh's responses to mislynching in his previous games. + Show Spoiler [SNMM7] + On February 23 2012 01:06 slOosh wrote: Ok. I'm back and catching up with the thread as I have been busy IRL and will be till tomorrow. Hopefully it won't stop me from responding and contributing. My stance on Mattchew - He is probably correct. I went off the assumption that everyone has the same logic as me and if they didn't do what I would do they would be acting illogical hence mafia. I did not consider that people can be inexperienced. I responded negatively to Mattchew because he didn't say why my case was bad and it looked to me that he was distracting my case. I still don't like the basis of his case, that he did some filter pickings and chose 4 people who avoided each other. However, I cannot argue with results - it has promoted discussion and the suspects are posting more content. Objectively he is producing pro town content, even though it is through antagonistic means. I have to say he is leaning town right now. However, I am still waiting for his own reads. Enough content has been flying around and I want to see him to present a good case. The goal isn't content but using it to strengthen a case and lynch the strongest mafia suspect. I'm also going to have to retract my read on Alderan. That was just OMGUS or paranoia, and I can see where he is getting his case on me (even though I strongly disagree with the logic he uses, but as I stated above I'm realizing that not using my kind of logic does not necessarily equate with scum). Following post will address Mattchew's 4. + Show Spoiler [NMM3] + On January 27 2012 14:12 slOosh wrote: After cooling off, I have to reluctantly agree. I don't think me getting tunnel vision and attacking zarepath is helpful to town when there are still so many lurkers in the game. I'm willing to back off in order to punish inactives/lurkers. I do agree with MidnightGladius that Bromancipate is a good place to start. In both of these cases slOosh responds to mislynching by slowing down, reevaluating, and trying to get a better grasp on the game. Also, he tends to do this reevaluation by looking at other people's cases and putting his weight behind them. Does that look anything like his response to this mislynch? no. slOosh's biggest fear this game is that he loses it by tunneling the way he did in his 2 previous games. Does his response reflect that? no. He states that he tried his best to avoid it. Does he slow down? No, he instead throws suspicion on myself, chocolate, nightfury, and testsubject. Does he reevaluate? No, he comes after me with surprising certainty. Just the way he has handled his case against Alderan and me should be enough to get him lynched. But I know you will require more because you all love to frustrate me. So I will put together a bigger case on him. zelblade. I pointed out the fake claim because before it was only your word, now it is fact. That is a very important difference. I really dislike how you seem to be taking cues from slOosh who you also seem to have a town read on. I am confident in my town reads on JekyllAndHyde and NightFury. I lean town with Chocolate as well but that is less certain. I agree with Alderan that k2hd is probably town based off how slOosh used him in his case against us both. That leaves the 4 mafia in this list. 1. slOosh 2. Ghost 3. zelblade 4. Testsubject 5. Phagga Pull your heads out of the sand and let's get to work. Okay. Let's take a moment to compare lists. Between you and phagga, the two of you have managed to list the entire town. I think it's pretty safe to assume that everyone in the town is not mafia. Now, quit posting useless lists and give me a reason to vote for someone. Sloosh has been actively working to focus the town and find scum. If you have a problem with his case against Alderan, or anyone else, point it out. Saying "People who find him fishy end up dead" is 100% WIFOM. | ||
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On March 06 2012 05:06 DoYouHas wrote: Ok Ghost, thanks for making it clear that you are scum too. Your two posts reek of feeling threatened by my post. "slOosh has been actively working to focus the town and find scum." "I am 99% sure that one of the two of you is scum, and I haven't decided which one it is yet." "@sloosh Stop tunneling DoYouHas." Oh the contradictions. First you hard defend slOosh, saying that he has been very pro-town (meaning you have a town read on him). Then immediately change that stance by saying that 1 of us MUST be scum and you aren't sure which yet. And you give advice to slOosh to stop tunneling me. You don't give advice to someone you don't have a town read on. Or in your case, someone who isn't your scum buddy. You want to appear on the fence between me and slOosh, but it is abundantly clear where your loyalties lie. Our medic is gone. We have no guarantees that we have a vet. We are about to walk into LYLO. That means that in order to lynch scum, without scum bussing one of their own, every single townie will have to line up behind a scum candidate. That makes this on the fence stance of Ghost's exceptionally anti-town. I was already pretty confident that I had all 4 scum in my list. Your posting has just made me more so Ghost. Correct me if I'm mistaken, but I believe that your case against me rests on a single point: "Oh the contradictions." you took the liberty of summarizing the offensive posts, but I would like to take a moment to direct the audience to the specific posts in question. Here they are. (I included a bonus one for free.) I submit to you, there are no contradictions in my posts from where I stand. First of all, my comment on your list. Between your list and the list that phagga presented earlier, nine people have been deemed scummy between the two of you. Chocolate is the only one missing between the two lists, and that's because phagga spent the previous post claiming that he was scummy. Congratulations! That portion of your post does nothing but spread confusion in the town. That is inherently scummy, but certainly not enough for me to vote to lynch you. We only have one chance to get this right, and I don't want to do anything to screw this up. (By the way, the only person that the two of you agree upon is NightFury.) "Hard defense of Sloosh" - yeah, no. Just because I think "Sloosh is working to focus the town and find scum" does not mean that he's a townie. My previous game, Werewolves 2, featured Palmar doing that exact same thing. He actually found out who the detective was first day and decided not to kill him the entire game to build town credit. I don't trust sloosh in the slightest. However, regardless of his alignment, if he's going to find scum, I'm going to let him. I just showed you my views on Sloosh, so reiterating them here doesn't make much sense. Trying to prove that DYH is scum instead of hunting the low hanging fruit at the moment is not the least bit helpful. As for my final comment, I stand by it. After tonight, unless we get crazy lucky (I'M NOT BLUE FISHING I SWEAR), we'll be down to 5 townies and 4 scum. What we need most right now is time. By staying calm and not jumping to conclusions, we can make sure we get a scum lynch tomorrow. Instead, you are accusing me of being scum when all I'm trying to do is trying to keep tomorrow from being DYH v Sloosh. I'm trying to buy the town more time. We need more time so we can get a series of successful lynches, and win this game. | ||
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Two quick notes. First of all, this post is my favorite post in the thread this far. On March 07 2012 02:34 DoYouHas wrote: Seems the battle lines have been drawn. Me, k2hd, NightFury, Chocolate vs slOosh, Ghost, Phagga, Testsubject. Jekyll, I don't know what you will end up deciding. But if I read the sides on this as clearly as I think I do, your decision is going to be the difference between an all townie lynching of scum and a bus. ##Vote: slOosh I love it because it so perfectly paints me, phagga and test into the corner. So beautifully scummy. Second note: in my opinion, this is a scum slip on DYH's part. On March 07 2012 09:50 DoYouHas wrote: zelblade is the perfect hit for framing me as scum. It discredits my case on slOosh, discredits my scumlist, and removes a townie voice that was opposed to me. Why would I do that to myself if I am indeed scum? So that I can make this exact defense? That is a pretty low reward for drawing suspicion back onto myself. + Show Spoiler + Of course, you all could decide that this is speculation into why zelblade was hit and therefore WIFOM and moot. As for Alderan, he did post the first PBPA on Chocolate, but if memory serves, he was not the one that pushed Chocolate's lynch in the end. He was, however, the one who speculated that mafia would push the case of a townie over one of their own day1. And would ya look at that, 3/4 of the people I suspect to be mafia are on that list. I really should be thanking you slOosh, in your desire to discredit me, you narrowed my list to 4. Townies don't think like this. Townies wait until someone accuses them of being scum and use the night kill as part of their case against them to make the claim that they were framed. I don't remember that happening. Scum, on the other hand, sit around worrying about how the night kill looked to the town, worrying if it somehow implicated them. A final thought for free. I'm okay with a Chocolate lynch. Unlike DYH, I haven't deemed him a townie because other people think he's scum. | ||
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If we lose, I blame the town. If we don't, whoo! I get a whole 'nother day to convince DYH not to lynch me. | ||
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