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Qatol
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3165 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-28 01:29:36
February 28 2012 00:11 GMT
#381
Also, FourFace's edits from earlier have been reverted. They should look like they did originally now.

# and # for reference.
Uff Da
Chocolate
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2350 Posts
February 28 2012 00:16 GMT
#382
Well those were certainly...interesting. I don't know if I hope he's lying or if I hope he's telling the truth.
ghost_403
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1825 Posts
February 28 2012 00:16 GMT
#383
On February 28 2012 09:11 Qatol wrote:
Also, FourFace's edits from earlier have been reverted. They should look like they did originally now.


Huh.

# and # for reference.
They say great science is built on the shoulders of giants. Not here. At Aperture, we do all our science from scratch, no hand holding. Step aside, REAL SCIENCE coming through.
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
February 28 2012 00:17 GMT
#384
On February 28 2012 08:51 Janaan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2012 08:29 gumshoe wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On February 28 2012 08:26 Janaan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2012 07:55 Alderan wrote:

Janaan where would you place your vote if deadline was in 5 minutes?


Right now, I'd say it has to be between Chocolate and igabod.
Igabod since he's lurking heavily and it'd send a message not to lurk.

Chocolate, of all the people with cases against them seems the most scummy to me, and I can't quite put my finger on why exactly. But it doesn't make him scum. I think DYH makes a good point about how it's coming together a little too nicely when I can see all of Chocolate's posts from a town perspective.

Unless something else comes up, I think I'll be sticking with ##Vote: igabod




Janaan I ask that you consider voting for ghost,

I really don't like how drastically sloosh's style has shifted, even alderaan who seems like he's playing a convincing town hasn't changed that much in terms of tone from last game when he was scum, sloosh sounds like a different person and I would like to put pressure on him by attacking his potential proxy, ghost.

The problem that I have with this is that if SlOosh and Ghost were both scum, I doubt that SlOosh would be the first to call Ghost out. Maybe it's a bit WIFOM to say that, but all it did was bring more scrutiny to Ghost on Day 1, which is something that no scum team would want to inflict to themselves.

I do agree with SlOosh's change in posting style, though. It's a pretty big change from his previous two games. I can understand him wanting to be a bit less aggressive this game, but it does seem a bit out of character.


I was the first to pressure ghost and then alderaan put some pressure on ghost, if sloosh is scum I think he would've seen the righting on the wall and tried to address the issues ghost had caused by putting a bit of pressure on him, then ghost posts his defence and sloosh just drops his case on him and goes with the other obvious vote of chocolate, suddenly everyones dropped their suspicion of ghost, Sloosh is a clever player, its not impossible that he started the conflict so that he could control it.

All I ask is that we all vote for ghost an already suspicious suspect, to get a feel for what Sloosh is up to, I am not accusing him right now I would just like some answers.

That said I really don't like chocolates posting right now -_- he strikes me as too aggressive. Am open to voting for him if a ghost lynch is unobtainable.
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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
February 28 2012 00:19 GMT
#385
On February 28 2012 09:03 Chocolate wrote:
I would encourage you to vote on steveling, if igabod doesn't post in the next hour I'll change my vote to Steve.


Chocolate what the smuch do you think of ghost?
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Chocolate
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2350 Posts
February 28 2012 00:21 GMT
#386
I had to haul ass to prevent myself from getting banned. I want to be aggressive, I played really passive last game and got lynched for it(I was mafia in that game though). I almost got lynched for it again this game (although this one is also due to inconsistencies). I feel like you're trying to get me to stop posting. Why is that? Do you really think I'm being too aggressive or do you disagree with my choices on who to lynch?
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
February 28 2012 00:29 GMT
#387
On February 28 2012 09:21 Chocolate wrote:
I had to haul ass to prevent myself from getting banned. I want to be aggressive, I played really passive last game and got lynched for it(I was mafia in that game though). I almost got lynched for it again this game (although this one is also due to inconsistencies). I feel like you're trying to get me to stop posting. Why is that? Do you really think I'm being too aggressive or do you disagree with my choices on who to lynch?


I think your in a bad spot, and you need to start offering new possibilities or provide some evidence we haven't heard yet, the case against steven is threadbare at the moment, advocating his lynch makes you sound desperate to get the pressure of you and onto someone who isn't that obvious. Come back with something substantial because this game isn't about just not getting lynched, its about being able to convince town what the right decision is, and right now I see no reason to respect your opinion as much as I would some one else's, so you need to start making some headway for town.

Now what do you think of ghost? I'm not going to ask you again -_-
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Chocolate
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2350 Posts
February 28 2012 00:30 GMT
#388
On February 28 2012 09:19 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2012 09:03 Chocolate wrote:
I would encourage you to vote on steveling, if igabod doesn't post in the next hour I'll change my vote to Steve.


Chocolate what the smuch do you think of ghost?

I agree with some of his views on lurkers, i.e. if we can't find anyone scummy we should lynch them. However, I disagree with
If we can't find scum, we should instead lynch people who are not useful to the town. Lurkers fit the second criteria perfectly.
because we shouldn't kill them for not being useful, but for possibly being hiding scum.

FourFace, I have no idea what game you're playing here. Your rants about insanity are baffling to me even on repeat readings. The only thing worse than scum in a game are townies that waste other peoples time while they are looking for scum. Instead, we have to identify and ignore your madness, which is insanely counter productive. As far as your trap, still don't know what you're going for there. Once the game starts, people have a responsibility to actually be playing. If they can't make it, they tell the GM and he replaces them; not a big deal.

My head still hurts.

Agree

As I said before, I am happy to lynch lurkers...
--UNLESS--
...there are scum. Oh boy, are there scum in this thread. I'm not down with an Igabod lynch (at the moment. Igabod, post more.) simply because there are scummier targets.

On February 28 2012 06:37 Chocolate wrote:
Right now I'm looking at igabod because he has almost no posts, and because I'm not getting strong reads on anybody else at the moment. I'm looking at some of the people who seemed to be bandwagoning/sheeping on to me, but I do realize that you all want a lynch to gain info, and I may represent the best case to you.


Tells us not to jump on the bandwagon.
Immediately jumps on the bandwagon.

Also, he's posted very little content up til now. His post history is "let's lynch lurkers, let's not lynch lurkers, let's lynch lurkers who don't post in the next hour, let's lynch phagga for lurking, sorry for jumping on the FourFace bandwagon, let's lynch Igabod." Chocolate's Filter

And now, his most recent post is "Alderan used an OMGUS sort of, FourFace is fishy, and here's another lurker." Not impressed.

Scummy lurker >> regular lurker.

##vote chocolate

Just as an aside, did you know that out of the 14 people playing this game, only 4 of them agreed to a no-lynch on day 1?

Kinda hypocritical, he "Tells us not to jump on the bandwagon. Immediately jumps on the bandwagon."
The bolded part isn't entirely true, voting for someone that early and w/o evidence does not equate to lynching. Also criticizes me for wanting to lynch igabod, but he is happy to lynch lurkers. Dismisses my own cases.

If push comes to shove I would vote for him to avoid my own lynch or a no-lynch, but if I had my druthers I would lynch someone else.
k2hd
Profile Joined February 2012
Cayman Islands78 Posts
February 28 2012 00:31 GMT
#389
Changing vote to igabod for reasons stated in my Previous post.
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
February 28 2012 00:32 GMT
#390
+ Show Spoiler +
On February 28 2012 09:30 Chocolate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2012 09:19 gumshoe wrote:
On February 28 2012 09:03 Chocolate wrote:
I would encourage you to vote on steveling, if igabod doesn't post in the next hour I'll change my vote to Steve.


Chocolate what the smuch do you think of ghost?

I agree with some of his views on lurkers, i.e. if we can't find anyone scummy we should lynch them. However, I disagree with
Show nested quote +
If we can't find scum, we should instead lynch people who are not useful to the town. Lurkers fit the second criteria perfectly.
because we shouldn't kill them for not being useful, but for possibly being hiding scum.

Show nested quote +
FourFace, I have no idea what game you're playing here. Your rants about insanity are baffling to me even on repeat readings. The only thing worse than scum in a game are townies that waste other peoples time while they are looking for scum. Instead, we have to identify and ignore your madness, which is insanely counter productive. As far as your trap, still don't know what you're going for there. Once the game starts, people have a responsibility to actually be playing. If they can't make it, they tell the GM and he replaces them; not a big deal.

My head still hurts.

Agree

Show nested quote +
As I said before, I am happy to lynch lurkers...
--UNLESS--
...there are scum. Oh boy, are there scum in this thread. I'm not down with an Igabod lynch (at the moment. Igabod, post more.) simply because there are scummier targets.

On February 28 2012 06:37 Chocolate wrote:
Right now I'm looking at igabod because he has almost no posts, and because I'm not getting strong reads on anybody else at the moment. I'm looking at some of the people who seemed to be bandwagoning/sheeping on to me, but I do realize that you all want a lynch to gain info, and I may represent the best case to you.


Tells us not to jump on the bandwagon.
Immediately jumps on the bandwagon.

Also, he's posted very little content up til now. His post history is "let's lynch lurkers, let's not lynch lurkers, let's lynch lurkers who don't post in the next hour, let's lynch phagga for lurking, sorry for jumping on the FourFace bandwagon, let's lynch Igabod." Chocolate's Filter

And now, his most recent post is "Alderan used an OMGUS sort of, FourFace is fishy, and here's another lurker." Not impressed.

Scummy lurker >> regular lurker.

##vote chocolate

Just as an aside, did you know that out of the 14 people playing this game, only 4 of them agreed to a no-lynch on day 1?

Kinda hypocritical, he "Tells us not to jump on the bandwagon. Immediately jumps on the bandwagon."
The bolded part isn't entirely true, voting for someone that early and w/o evidence does not equate to lynching. Also criticizes me for wanting to lynch igabod, but he is happy to lynch lurkers. Dismisses my own cases.

If push comes to shove I would vote for him to avoid my own lynch or a no-lynch, but if I had my druthers I would lynch someone else.



Thank you very much.
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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
February 28 2012 00:32 GMT
#391
On February 28 2012 09:31 k2hd wrote:
Changing vote to igabod for reasons stated in my Previous post.


iga's getting modkilled -_- if he pops up before vote then we can lynch him, please consider someone else.
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
Alderan
Profile Joined September 2010
United States463 Posts
February 28 2012 00:36 GMT
#392
As for FF's edited posts... the first one is actually not exactly what the original post was, but it get's the point across. He said some really weird convoluted stuff that if were true would be grounds for a ban.

I saved reporting the second post to you guys for obvious reasons, didn't want the scum to see it before it was time. No reason to suspect it's true in all honesty. I don't even know what to think about it.

It's getting about that time. Odds are good that either both Steveling and igabod will be replaced, or just Steveling will be replaced as he asked first, and igabod will be modkilled.

The question now is, do we want to go for an additional lynch or not?

gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
February 28 2012 00:38 GMT
#393
On February 28 2012 09:36 Alderan wrote:
As for FF's edited posts... the first one is actually not exactly what the original post was, but it get's the point across. He said some really weird convoluted stuff that if were true would be grounds for a ban.

I saved reporting the second post to you guys for obvious reasons, didn't want the scum to see it before it was time. No reason to suspect it's true in all honesty. I don't even know what to think about it.

It's getting about that time. Odds are good that either both Steveling and igabod will be replaced, or just Steveling will be replaced as he asked first, and igabod will be modkilled.

The question now is, do we want to go for an additional lynch or not?



I do, read my joint case on ghost and sloosh.
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
Alderan
Profile Joined September 2010
United States463 Posts
February 28 2012 00:44 GMT
#394
On February 28 2012 09:38 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2012 09:36 Alderan wrote:
As for FF's edited posts... the first one is actually not exactly what the original post was, but it get's the point across. He said some really weird convoluted stuff that if were true would be grounds for a ban.

I saved reporting the second post to you guys for obvious reasons, didn't want the scum to see it before it was time. No reason to suspect it's true in all honesty. I don't even know what to think about it.

It's getting about that time. Odds are good that either both Steveling and igabod will be replaced, or just Steveling will be replaced as he asked first, and igabod will be modkilled.

The question now is, do we want to go for an additional lynch or not?



I do, read my joint case on ghost and sloosh.


Problem is, I initially pushed Ghost as well and came to the same conclusions that Sloosh did, prior to his posting.

I had a quote that I was going to wait for him to respond because "I had a hunch", that's what I was referring too, that I didn't actually think Ghost is the scummiest player in the game right now.

Currently I find k2hd questionable as well, but I don't have a concrete case and it's too late in the voting period to be discussing a brand new case I feel. Will be a good one fore tomorrow, especially if igabod flips green.
ghost_403
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1825 Posts
February 28 2012 00:45 GMT
#395
@alderan We can't double lynch this game. Majority+1 for lynch.
They say great science is built on the shoulders of giants. Not here. At Aperture, we do all our science from scratch, no hand holding. Step aside, REAL SCIENCE coming through.
ghost_403
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1825 Posts
February 28 2012 00:47 GMT
#396
EBWOP: But I wouldn't mind taking a look at k2hd tomorrow. Hardcore lurking not cool.
They say great science is built on the shoulders of giants. Not here. At Aperture, we do all our science from scratch, no hand holding. Step aside, REAL SCIENCE coming through.
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
February 28 2012 00:47 GMT
#397
so were no lynching? Do I have to vote for CHOCOLATE RAIN or something? Cause I feel like he getting bussed.
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
DoYouHas
Profile Joined November 2008
United States1140 Posts
February 28 2012 00:47 GMT
#398
We don't know igabod is getting modkilled. There is every chance that he will be replaced. Because of this I still think that he is our best lynch option. Chocolate would be my distant second. Ghost made me suspicious for the same reasons as he made everyone else suspicious. I just think that he is on the chopping block because he is the easy target, not because he is scum.

Gumshoe, I do agree with you about slOosh's attitude this game, it isn't helpful. However, I do genuinely think he took quite the blow with the endgame of SNMM7. His passivity does not condemn him for me yet. I would like him to get more involved, but I'm not going to vote him yet.

I do have another suspicion after going through the thread again. However, it is more that this person has tingled my spidey sense, I don't really have a case yet. I will wait until night 1 to bring up those things because I don't have a strong enough case to push him and I don't want us to lose focus.
Guts? Determination? $5?
Alderan
Profile Joined September 2010
United States463 Posts
February 28 2012 00:49 GMT
#399
On February 28 2012 09:45 ghost_403 wrote:
@alderan We can't double lynch this game. Majority+1 for lynch.


I think you misunderstood. If igabod get's modkilled, and we lynch someone, two people will die this day period.

I just realized though that there is a brand new newbie game starting up, which I'm sure the mods will use to get a player to fill in, considering there is only one sub. Because of this, our chance at a mod kill seems minimal to me.

I'm torn.
Alderan
Profile Joined September 2010
United States463 Posts
February 28 2012 00:51 GMT
#400
I honestly get the feeling Steveling is more likely to be scum than igabod, It's only on't a gut feeling, but let's be real, we're lynching lurkers, we don't have much else.

##vote: Steveling
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