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Alderan
Profile Joined September 2010
United States463 Posts
February 27 2012 16:28 GMT
#297
Obviously we need to hear more from everyone, but here is who I'm specifically looking forward to:

- Igabod
- Chocolate
- Janaan (In that, I would like to hear who you want to vote for)
- Ghost_403
- Steveling

I still like Chocolate as the lynch candidate for today, but I'm going to hold out as I wait for a response.

Also I have more reads on Ghost, but again, I'd rather wait for him to respond so as not to jump the gun with divulging information.

A note on Steveling. Last game he played a very "I'm a noob town don't lynch me" game as stated in one of his first posts in the scum qt. He obviously can't do this again if he's scum, because he knows I'm town, and I'll call it out. After playing a game with him it seems like he is a person who would use a shtick as scum. Steveling I'm telling you now, if a lurker scum is your thing, I'll find you.

Alderan
Profile Joined September 2010
United States463 Posts
February 27 2012 17:27 GMT
#300
...

I don't even know what to say....
Alderan
Profile Joined September 2010
United States463 Posts
February 27 2012 17:28 GMT
#301
He edited his post now? Or was that a mod?
Alderan
Profile Joined September 2010
United States463 Posts
February 27 2012 17:29 GMT
#302
He edited both posts. Jesus christ.
Alderan
Profile Joined September 2010
United States463 Posts
February 27 2012 17:30 GMT
#303
FourFace should be replaced immediately.
Alderan
Profile Joined September 2010
United States463 Posts
February 27 2012 17:40 GMT
#307
This is for the best.
Alderan
Profile Joined September 2010
United States463 Posts
February 27 2012 17:52 GMT
#314
On February 28 2012 02:47 FourFace wrote:
This game man, it's not for me. I can't sleep because it messes with my head. Check this out: what I do regret right now is editing those last two posts instead of making 2 additionaI posts and editing them into nvm and what? That would have been awesome so you can appreciate the mood that came out of it. Nah things are getting too messy in my head I can't sleep. I'm not joking I have issues. Sorry for putting everyone through this.. it was juvenile and you came here to have fun. I had my fun but now it's like I pissed my pants. I do hope that Day 2 will start making for a good game afterall




Can we take this as a request for a replacement?
Alderan
Profile Joined September 2010
United States463 Posts
February 27 2012 19:03 GMT
#326
If FourFace doesn't get a replacement I say we lynch him day 1. Who knows what role he is but he is cluttering up the thread so much that he's doing more harm alive than he is dead.
Alderan
Profile Joined September 2010
United States463 Posts
February 27 2012 22:09 GMT
#342
@Steveling have you been actively pursuing getting a replacement or no?

@Chocolate aside from igabod who are you thinking is appearing scummy? Are you really getting a null read on everyone?

To anyone who cares, I don't think Ghost_403 is that suspicious anymore. I realized that it is more likely that either Ghost or Chocolate are scum, Chocolate strikes me as someone riding the middle and keeping his head down.
Alderan
Profile Joined September 2010
United States463 Posts
February 27 2012 22:37 GMT
#347
Do you find no one else suspicious besides lurkers and 4F?

We're trying to build as many cases as possible and put pressure on every one we find suspicious.

The hypothetical Jeckyll vote thing was just something that popped into my head when making my case on you and I used it to push you both and see how you respond.


Sorry if you think I tried to make you look dumb, that was not my intention.
Alderan
Profile Joined September 2010
United States463 Posts
February 27 2012 22:48 GMT
#348
Gumshoe, where you at?

Chocolate or Ghost?
Alderan
Profile Joined September 2010
United States463 Posts
February 27 2012 22:55 GMT
#349
On February 28 2012 06:49 Janaan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2012 06:32 Chocolate wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On February 27 2012 14:22 Janaan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2012 14:06 Alderan wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On February 27 2012 13:59 Janaan wrote:
One thing that stands out most to me about Ghost's posting is this gem right here
Show nested quote +
Another way to look at that is if you are still left during day 3 after 2 mislynches. There are 6 townies and 4 scum. The scum are either (1) forced to work together to stay alive, and are pretty easy to spot or (2) are going to sacrifice one of their own. Unless something goes horribly, horribly wrong, the worst case scenario for day 4 is 5 townies to 3 scum. No problem.


He seems to think that it's perfectly fine for us to go 3 days without lynching a mafia, which would put us in a MYLO situation. Not exactly what I'd call a pro-town position to be in. His justification for saying this is pretty weak I think.
1. If the game gets to this point, scum obviously haven't been easy to spot, and it doesn't really get much easier. Sure, the "odds" might be more in your favor, but if you're in this situation, scum probably are pretty good at hiding in plain sight.
2. Yeah, scum might sacrifice one of their own. But 5 town/ 3 scum is still MYLO. I don't see how a townie could say that this is "no problem".



Janaan, talk to me about Chocolate.

I agree that Chocolate does seem a little wishy washy, saying stuff like
Show nested quote +
Our vote will probably end up being a lurker
then he seems to say at least slightly differently in his next post
Show nested quote +
I'm not sure we will lynch a lurker on Day1


It seems to me that for the most part, though, his posts are fairly consistent with the idea of lynching lurkers in mind.

I don't really know what
Show nested quote +
That sounds like a good idea. I really can't see any problems with that tbh, and it works well for me because in the event of a massive vote swing I probably won't be online to provide input.
was about, and it does seem like he could be just trying to cover for himself so he can justify not being active near the voting deadline. Particularly when he did say that he'd most likely be online
Show nested quote +
7:30 EST 17-21 EST
. 17-21 EST is the hours before the deadline, so he may've contradicted himself there.

There's not really enough for me to call him scum right now, but he looks like he could be potentially.


Saying something is probable and that I'm not sure of it doesn't seem contradictory to me at all. Isn't that what you mean when you say probably?

17-21 EST is right before the deadline except the last hour, so I'm notcontradicting myself. Honestly if your case on me is because of these that's pretty fishy, either you're sheeping or you're voting along with the mafia (possibly both).



To me Probable is more strong than saying you're not sure of it. But I could just be arguing semantics here.

Also, if I was merely sheeping/voting with mafia like you suggest, I would've voted for you. As it is, I just found a couple things I felt were a bit odd and commented on that.



Janaan where would you place your vote if deadline was in 5 minutes?
Alderan
Profile Joined September 2010
United States463 Posts
February 27 2012 23:29 GMT
#363
On February 28 2012 08:04 DoYouHas wrote:
Anybody else think that this bandwagon is forming a little quickly on Chocolate? It wouldn't be so odd to me, but when I see a post like NightFury's which attacks Chocolate with points that are not very conclusive I start thinking that people are talking themselves into a Chocolate lynch instead of being objectively convinced. If you thought that he was our best lynch candidate because you found a few of thing things he said fishy and did not like his early lurking/middle of the road posts, that is one thing. But when you invent fairly invalid points to convince us that you aren't just sheeping the vote, it is very bad for town.

Right now I am very comfortable with my igabod vote. With how the conversation is being directed towards either a ghost lynch or a Chocolate lynch, I think igabod has a better chance of flipping scum than either of them.


I almost made literally the exact same post. The Chocolate thing is coming along too easily, I would have expected at least a case made against someone else. That in combination with his mildly sufficient answers have me reconsidering my vote.

I would love for a case to come a long that was better, which is why I was asking everyone to come up with an opinion?

I think Steveling is acting very suspiciously. I've found that after playing as scum, town is much more relaxing and less time consuming. I find it strange that he finds it the opposite.

Alderan
Profile Joined September 2010
United States463 Posts
February 27 2012 23:32 GMT
#366
Reason I don't vote for igabod is as of now he stands to be modkilled, correct?
Alderan
Profile Joined September 2010
United States463 Posts
February 28 2012 00:36 GMT
#392
As for FF's edited posts... the first one is actually not exactly what the original post was, but it get's the point across. He said some really weird convoluted stuff that if were true would be grounds for a ban.

I saved reporting the second post to you guys for obvious reasons, didn't want the scum to see it before it was time. No reason to suspect it's true in all honesty. I don't even know what to think about it.

It's getting about that time. Odds are good that either both Steveling and igabod will be replaced, or just Steveling will be replaced as he asked first, and igabod will be modkilled.

The question now is, do we want to go for an additional lynch or not?

Alderan
Profile Joined September 2010
United States463 Posts
February 28 2012 00:44 GMT
#394
On February 28 2012 09:38 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2012 09:36 Alderan wrote:
As for FF's edited posts... the first one is actually not exactly what the original post was, but it get's the point across. He said some really weird convoluted stuff that if were true would be grounds for a ban.

I saved reporting the second post to you guys for obvious reasons, didn't want the scum to see it before it was time. No reason to suspect it's true in all honesty. I don't even know what to think about it.

It's getting about that time. Odds are good that either both Steveling and igabod will be replaced, or just Steveling will be replaced as he asked first, and igabod will be modkilled.

The question now is, do we want to go for an additional lynch or not?



I do, read my joint case on ghost and sloosh.


Problem is, I initially pushed Ghost as well and came to the same conclusions that Sloosh did, prior to his posting.

I had a quote that I was going to wait for him to respond because "I had a hunch", that's what I was referring too, that I didn't actually think Ghost is the scummiest player in the game right now.

Currently I find k2hd questionable as well, but I don't have a concrete case and it's too late in the voting period to be discussing a brand new case I feel. Will be a good one fore tomorrow, especially if igabod flips green.
Alderan
Profile Joined September 2010
United States463 Posts
February 28 2012 00:49 GMT
#399
On February 28 2012 09:45 ghost_403 wrote:
@alderan We can't double lynch this game. Majority+1 for lynch.


I think you misunderstood. If igabod get's modkilled, and we lynch someone, two people will die this day period.

I just realized though that there is a brand new newbie game starting up, which I'm sure the mods will use to get a player to fill in, considering there is only one sub. Because of this, our chance at a mod kill seems minimal to me.

I'm torn.
Alderan
Profile Joined September 2010
United States463 Posts
February 28 2012 00:51 GMT
#400
I honestly get the feeling Steveling is more likely to be scum than igabod, It's only on't a gut feeling, but let's be real, we're lynching lurkers, we don't have much else.

##vote: Steveling
Alderan
Profile Joined September 2010
United States463 Posts
February 28 2012 01:02 GMT
#404
I might have lied to you. I just went back to the voting thread and here is what I saw:

igabod - 5
k2hd
DoYouHas
Chocolate
Janaan
Steveling

Chocolate - 5
phagga
JekyllAndHyde
slOosh
ghost_403
NightFury

Of the 5 voting igabod I have suspicions of 4 of them.
k2hd
Chocolate
Janaan
Steveling

Of the 5 voting for Chocolate I have town reads on 3 (and a half) of them. Obviously not going to list them.


The way this looks to me, without one clear bus target is that we might be right. I think Chocolate may actually be scum. I think they are in a position where they have to stack on the inactive so as to save their team mate.

Potentially changing my vote, what does everyone think?

Alderan
Profile Joined September 2010
United States463 Posts
February 28 2012 01:04 GMT
#408
On February 28 2012 10:02 Chocolate wrote:
still no post, switching to steve. Steve, could you please post any and all reads you have at the moment?



Me being someone you find suspicious, I find it odd that you switched to my target so quickly.
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