The important facts of how the endgame played out.

1. JayJay and I are the only 2 scum left starting on day 5.
2. JayJay used his DT ability on Bill Murry that night and found out that he was a cult recruiter and informed me of that.

*at that moment, I, having play'd with cults before, began to completely play with the mindset of winning as a cultist.

3. I sent a PM to BM saying that I wanted some punch basically, he recruits me right then.

At this point, the game is as follows:
Liquid`Sheth
Bill Murray
Ciryandor
Jayjay54
Nisani201
vaderseven
Bluelightz

4. With myself being recruited, the cult now knew the alignment of every single player left in the game.
5. I knew JayJay had potentionally 2 KP because of his role so I began a very long a elaborite set of lies to him. I claimed cult to him and said I was sorry for joining. I set him up so he would believe he had found a way to still win as scum. I told him dont worry I'll make the cult recruit you. You can still win etc etc!
6. The next day, I PMed him and informed him that if BM dies (remember he knows thats the recruiter), another cultist takes up the role and he therefor can not win as scum. I instructed him to change his vote to Bluelightz and to not roleblock BM on the next night.

Now when I PM'd BM asking to be cult I assumed there would be 4 total cultists including myself. The fact that his role specificly stated that recruiting mafia didn't kill them (not a killer cult) led me to believe that no matter what my chance of winning was highest on the cult side.

If BM had recruited JJ the game would have ended the next night and I would have been at the mercy of the cult. If BM didn't recruit me or JJ and we killed a townie instead of the mafia, we would be left with 4 cult and JJ and I left. At that point the cult controls the game and I lose control over the ability to win.

The lesson from all this is if you ever learn of a cult (especially a BP recruiter) and you are the scum, you should begin playing to win as cult that second no matter what. Yes its not fool proof, but your chance of winning is SIGNIFICANTLY higher if you do so.

@JayJay- Sorry to play you. I was playing to win 100%. I haven't had to lie like that in a mafia game in a very long time, I felt like a bad person. I 100% didn't really care about you winning... I was doing the set of actions that had the greatest chance to create the situation in which I was most likely to end the game on a winning team. FYI, if BM had died, there was no other recruiter. This wouldn't have really mattered if there was 4 players on the cult but kinda mattered because there was only 3 (including myself).

vaderseven

United States2556 Posts

March 13 2012 22:20 GMT

#1950

About the play leading up to when JJ informed me that BM was a recruiter-

Me and JJ are a fucking sick scum team that was leading the game around on useless chases both in and out of the thread. Amazingly fun to be a dito that can copy unlyncable/BP role and then proceed to make the town waste a lynch to prove that Im town (when Im not).

The strongest scum play is that which hinges on so many true statements. This game allowed me to abuse that to the fullest!