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On February 27 2012 23:44 blubbdavid wrote:
Wait, was it better to wait with my suspicions till day? Posting a case can be done at any time, but often best to do during the day, unless you expect to die during the night. In this case you could just as well have waited if you had wanted to.
Anyway I have two problems with your "case". First, I don´t see how Zeph and Jackal are under heavy suspicion, is that something you found in the Irc? Second, everyone calls everyone else scum and/or stupid in this game. Sandroba even had a role mechanic based on calling others scum, so using that phrase doesn´t prove anything. Those two players are probably talking over PMs too, just like Sandroba+Syllo did yesterday, but that doesn´t make them scum, it just makes them active, and provides another explanation for using the same phrase.
As for specifically calling those voting for syllo scum and stupid, syllo and sandroba were heavily pushing a very weird plan of early massclaim, that they flipped blue doesn´t change the fact that the plan looked really scummy yesterday. I still think it´s a bad plan, who proposed it doesn´t matter.
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On February 28 2012 01:24 Jayjay54 wrote:
fun fact mattchew, i don't think denuke actually works :D
also david finds a common term and is on to something. maybe WIFOM is the next code word.
@forumite, how can you see jackal not a suspect at the moment?
I see why some might think it´s suspicious, but I disagree with that. Syllo flipping blue doesn´t make Jackal scum, just as two players arguing, one flipping green, doesn´t make the other one red. All I know is that right now we have a good player as the Mayor, and noone has presented any arguments against him, besides "he won, he´s scum." Was he caught pushing an anti-Town agenda? No, he just happened to be on the opposing side of confirmed townies, confirmed townies that threatened people unless they roleclaimed to them. I´d be more suspicious if Jackal didn´t oppose syllo+sandroba.
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On February 28 2012 02:49 Jayjay54 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2012 02:42 Forumite wrote:On February 28 2012 01:24 Jayjay54 wrote:
fun fact mattchew, i don't think denuke actually works :D
also david finds a common term and is on to something. maybe WIFOM is the next code word.
@forumite, how can you see jackal not a suspect at the moment? I see why some might think it´s suspicious, but I disagree with that. Syllo flipping blue doesn´t make Jackal scum, just as two players arguing, one flipping green, doesn´t make the other one red. All I know is that right now we have a good player as the Mayor, and noone has presented any arguments against him, besides "he won, he´s scum." Was he caught pushing an anti-Town agenda? No, he just happened to be on the opposing side of confirmed townies, confirmed townies that threatened people unless they roleclaimed to them. I´d be more suspicious if Jackal didn´t oppose syllo+sandroba. I am actually more angry about not lynching who he said he'd lynch... the fact that he was opposing town doesnt bother me as much...especially with the dictator townies involved
Meh, I don´t mind him lynching WBG, I´m sure he had a good reason. He´s mayor because he´s good at this game on his own, not because he follows the voice of Town. In a way I´m glad that WBG, Syllo and Sandroba are gone, otherwise I´d be tunneling them so hard about now.
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On February 28 2012 08:22 Nisani201 wrote:
I like GGQ's case on vadersteven. We can deal with the black people tonight.
##Vote: vadersteven
I think he wants us to deal with him during the night.
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On February 28 2012 08:25 Zephirdd wrote:
bro, jackal determines the lynch.
we're fucked.
That was yesterday, and he lynched WBG, now we vote to lynch.
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On February 28 2012 08:34 Nisani201 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2012 08:29 Forumite wrote:On February 28 2012 08:22 Nisani201 wrote:
I like GGQ's case on vadersteven. We can deal with the black people tonight.
##Vote: vadersteven I think he wants us to deal with him during the night. If you have something to say then speak up.
I think he´s dangerous, we don´t know what he can do and what his goal is. It could be a trick to make us visit him, or to stay away from him, and tomorrow he´ll get another power. I think we should just get rid of him. A primed nuke might be the safest way, I wouldn´t be surprised if he has mechanics that trigger on a lynch and/or nightkill.
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On February 28 2012 08:48 Nisani201 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2012 08:47 Forumite wrote:On February 28 2012 08:34 Nisani201 wrote:On February 28 2012 08:29 Forumite wrote:On February 28 2012 08:22 Nisani201 wrote:
I like GGQ's case on vadersteven. We can deal with the black people tonight.
##Vote: vadersteven I think he wants us to deal with him during the night. If you have something to say then speak up. I think he´s dangerous, we don´t know what he can do and what his goal is. It could be a trick to make us visit him, or to stay away from him, and tomorrow he´ll get another power. I think we should just get rid of him. A primed nuke might be the safest way, I wouldn´t be surprised if he has mechanics that trigger on a lynch and/or nightkill. Who are you talking about?
A Killer Cuppa Tea of course. It´s safer to lynch or nuke than to leave him for nightkills, because noone knows what´s going to happen if he gets visitors tonight.
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On February 28 2012 10:08 GreYMisT wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2012 10:05 Bluelightz wrote:
I dunno I'd rather lynch AKCT today. why lynch him as opposed to us all nuking him? thats the route im thinking about most atm.
Sounds good, as long as at least one of the nukes are real.
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On February 28 2012 19:43 blubbdavid wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2012 13:53 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
Checked ZephirDD and he is Not town. So there is still the possibility that he's black? w/e, ##Nuke ZephirDDJJ54 is right, nuking/ lynching Tea would be a waste, Greymist is pushing too hard against him. I am for a Jackal lynch ##Vote Jackal58
Damn, you take care of your problems quickly. I can´t trust that nuke was real though, so going to ignore it.
Zeph and Jackal just turned on eachother, I didn´t see that one coming. We have a check on one, and Zeph wasn´t voted Mayor yesterday. I don´t trust Sheth one bit, but if we do lynch Zeph, that should confirim Sheth.
On February 28 2012 20:09 Zephirdd wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2012 13:53 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
Checked ZephirDD and he is Not town. Do you have any confirmation about your sanity? go ahead and lynch me to confirm your sanity tbh, but I'm 100% sure you're either paranoid, insane or simply scum. protip: I win with town. I don't know if that makes me "town" or "not town", but I win with town.
If there was a possibility that Sheth could be insane/paranoid/naive, don´t you think that would have been included in his role-PM? If that´s a possibility, then he wouldn´t claim his check immediately, he´d wait and see what those he checked would flip. He didn´t, so assuming Sheth is a lying scum or sane.
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On February 29 2012 00:15 Forumite wrote:
[bb]
Phonepost failure, ignore.
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On February 29 2012 08:18 Nisani201 wrote:
What power does he have anyways?
No we shouldn't trust a DT check because this is a bastard game and we really shouldn't trust anything. I don´t trust Sheth one bit, but we have a DT-check, we have to do something about it. Either we believe Sheth, which means Zeph is scum and needs to be lynched, or we think Zeph has acted Townie enough to make us doubt Sheth's check, in which case we lynch Sheth and see how we flips. We can´t just ignore this, can we?
Personally I´m torn, we have a scumcheck on someone I´ve been leaning town on for most of the game, and it makes it tough to decide what to do. He only started looking odd when he and Jackal had a falling out. Still, it´s a DT check.
Is it only I that pronounce Sheth and Zeph about the same in my head?
On February 29 2012 08:45 Jayjay54 wrote:
you mean me?
first of all we got a DT check which should be followed (even in a bastard game) IMO.
VT looks really bad and his vote sucked.
GGQ's case on V7 makes sense as well.
Mist and Forumite are on my close watch list.
And where is nuke by the way?
anyways, it's european sleep time. see you in 18 hours or so. Sure, watch away. I know I´m not the most shining example of townieness after everyone started calling Jackal scum somewhere along the way.
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On February 29 2012 07:16 Mattchew wrote:
fine.
sheth's sanity ftw
##vote Zephirdd On February 29 2012 07:16 Mattchew wrote:
but jackal is still scum.
I kind of figured your read on those two allready.
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Voting so I don´t forget. To clarify, it´s a DT-check, this needs to be resolved, and as we don´t lynch a claimed DT it leaves Zeph.
##vote Zephirdd
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On February 29 2012 10:48 evantrees wrote:
Going with the dt check over lynching our dear mayor.
But what kind of check returns not town?
An alignment-DT?
On February 29 2012 10:49 Liquid`Sheth wrote:Show nested quote +On February 29 2012 09:44 Forumite wrote:On February 29 2012 08:18 Nisani201 wrote:
What power does he have anyways?
No we shouldn't trust a DT check because this is a bastard game and we really shouldn't trust anything. I don´t trust Sheth one bit, but we have a DT-check, we have to do something about it. Either we believe Sheth, which means Zeph is scum and needs to be lynched, or we think Zeph has acted Townie enough to make us doubt Sheth's check, in which case we lynch Sheth and see how we flips. We can´t just ignore this, can we? Personally I´m torn, we have a scumcheck on someone I´ve been leaning town on for most of the game, and it makes it tough to decide what to do. He only started looking odd when he and Jackal had a falling out. Still, it´s a DT check. Is it only I that pronounce Sheth and Zeph about the same in my head? On February 29 2012 08:45 Jayjay54 wrote:
you mean me?
first of all we got a DT check which should be followed (even in a bastard game) IMO.
VT looks really bad and his vote sucked.
GGQ's case on V7 makes sense as well.
Mist and Forumite are on my close watch list.
And where is nuke by the way?
anyways, it's european sleep time. see you in 18 hours or so. Sure, watch away. I know I´m not the most shining example of townieness after everyone started calling Jackal scum somewhere along the way. Weird post. Yea lets lynch the DT, instead of the random guy he checked, then you know we'll know for sure if he was lying! Zeph is the smart lynch for today. I know hes Not Town, and so those not voting him are really interesting to watch. VanillaTownie is there a reason you switched from AKCT, to Zeph for no reason?
Trusting your DT-check hinges on me trusting you, and I don´t. I´m accepting a Zeph lynch more on the basis that you are next if he flips town, than that I expect him to flip scum.
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On February 29 2012 11:35 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
Btw I really dislike whoever thiefed my role, why would you thief a DT? Anyway, I'm now vanilla. I imagine Zeph is 100% mafia now, and there somewhat afraid. Anyway a vote for Zeph is a vote for a happy town.
What? You claimed DT then immediately claim you are not a DT anymore? This is that chaos13 mess all over again.
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On February 29 2012 12:05 Nisani201 wrote:
Sheth is black which means that I can kill him at night if I want to.
However he doesn't seem scummy to me so he's not dying.
What do you think happened? Sheth is insane, Sheth is scum, Zeph is a miller, or Zeph was framed? Can we trust Sheth even with his convenient loss of his role? It´s basically him confirming himself, without giving town anything in return. That doesn´t make it him scum, but it does look like a good scum move, especially if we end up NOT lynching Zeph today.
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On February 29 2012 12:09 Zephirdd wrote:
... nisani, thats the kind of thing you keep to yourself or even lie to try and attract other black guys.
He claimed yesterday, it was allready out in the open.
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On February 29 2012 12:15 Nisani201 wrote:
I talked to Sheth D1 through PMs and he claimed black and FBI Inspector to me so I don't think he's lying about his role. He's either insane or Zeph was framed (I framed Ciryandor last night if anyone is wondering).
@Zeph I already claimed White Supremacist earlier in the thread and Sheth knowns of the danger he's in. I think I reluctantly mentioned in the IRC about having an "MLK-type role that could protect black people," and I later tried to draw them out with a warning post in the thread.
If you are black you still have a chance to claim to me. Tonight I will probably frame Ciryandor again since he isn't black but later I might start framing random people. If you are town then you will have nothing to fear by claiming.
Seriously? What kind of town-role uses a framer power? That kind of thing only serve to make it harder for cops to find scum. It´s crazy having it on a town role, if there is a possibility of that, then scum can easily claim "Oh, sorry about that, you got a scum-read on him, because I framed him last night, my bad!" It´s a hugely pro-scum power, and if it can be used by town then it becomes even more powerfull because it can be used to fool detectives even after they´ve checked!
Sheth claims anti-town check on Zeph
Nisani claims in order to protect Zeph
Nisani is White Supremacist claiming an anti-town power
Nisani and Zeph are defending eachother, are checked as scum, have scum powers, this makes them scum!
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On February 29 2012 19:08 syllogism wrote:
I'm sure Forumite has a very pro-town role since as even when he was facing lynch or vig hit he didn't think claiming was a good idea. He won't even claim to a confirmed town ghost!
I CAST YOU OUT, EVIL SPIRIT!
+ <-- holy cross
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