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DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 25 2012 17:41 GMT
#1217
EBWOP:

BH - 6
person
person
person
person
person
person

VE/RoL - 5
BH
person
person
person
person
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 25 2012 20:34 GMT
#1236
On February 26 2012 04:48 Toadesstern wrote:
What about lynching people who aren't even playing this game? I've got a feeling we've been wrong on most of our scummy reads so far and that's why mafia is chilling and not even posting in this thread.
Yeah it's a pretty big assumption but I really don't like people like risk and Chaoser. For all I know those two could very well end up being modkilled. Of course there's no such thing as activity modkill but not voting for someone will still be a modkill and neither of those 2 has voted.

I'd say we lynch one of those 2 if one of them shows up and votes without a reason or just a oneliner the very next day. I don't see a reason to lynch into possible modkills right now so I won't suggest switching votes.

Tyrran and Kita are somewhat the same because they haven't voted yet, they don't post a lot but they do post from time to time. Jackal hasn't voted either but has at least some presence in this thread like Kita and Tyrran and well, he's known for doing this lurkish style and the other ones I've mentioned are more extreme imo.


So you have no confidence in your reads would you rather just lynch random lurkers instead? Who is "we", the town? You think we've all been wrong? That's discouraging and unhelpful.

It doesn't matter if you have "a feeling" that everything is wrong. If you have a feeling that BH or RoL or VE or anything is the wrong lynch then go back, do some reading, and think critically about what's going on. Besides displaying a complete lack of confidence you're not doing anything besides pointing out who is lurking which is something everyone should be aware of, all they'd have to do even is to just see who has or hasn't voted by looking at the voting thread. Your lack of confidence is really alarming to me and I'm not sure yet whether to pin you as town who just got his self-esteem devastated by AC or scum trying to be active without being noticed or controversial.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 25 2012 21:08 GMT
#1238
They could be busy. Lurking is not really the same as actively playing anti-town. I don't have a problem with you pointing out lurkers if you're going somewhere with it or trying to pressure them into being more active. I have a problem with you adding doubt to what's happening to town and basically listing lurkers with a ton of fluff. You were right to call out risk.nuke however, I just checked his filter.

Looking at r.n's filter he's offering very little compared to what he had to bring to the table in Arkham City which makes me suspicious. He didn't troll or anything like that in AC and I see a lot of commentary on things not relevant to finding scum when he was pretty serious about that in AC.

Chaoser seems to be totally busy and just uninvolved, I'm inclined to think he's town but he needs to post a lot more as soon as he has the time. Jackal is playing very reservedly which is not totally normal but does not alarm me. The few posts kitaman has made are posts that I'm mostly alright with.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 25 2012 21:54 GMT
#1248
On February 26 2012 06:16 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2012 06:08 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
They could be busy. Lurking is not really the same as actively playing anti-town. I don't have a problem with you pointing out lurkers if you're going somewhere with it or trying to pressure them into being more active. I have a problem with you adding doubt to what's happening to town and basically listing lurkers with a ton of fluff. You were right to call out risk.nuke however, I just checked his filter.

Looking at r.n's filter he's offering very little compared to what he had to bring to the table in Arkham City which makes me suspicious. He didn't troll or anything like that in AC and I see a lot of commentary on things not relevant to finding scum when he was pretty serious about that in AC.

Chaoser seems to be totally busy and just uninvolved, I'm inclined to think he's town but he needs to post a lot more as soon as he has the time. Jackal is playing very reservedly which is not totally normal but does not alarm me. The few posts kitaman has made are posts that I'm mostly alright with.


Risk has been sitting in irc for the last couple of days playing irc mafia and bw-mafia instead. Yes if that happens it IS activly lurking and it IS activly playing anti-town.

I agree on Chaoser. That guy seems to be totally busy, he hasn't even posted this cycle so we'll see about this. The chances of him being modkilled are quite high, so no need to talk about him unless he actually comes back voting for someone.


Didn't know about that, I don't pay attention to the irc. His filter is pretty damn scummy, hasn't BH been pushing r.n too?
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 25 2012 22:08 GMT
#1254
VIG into:

RoL
risk.nuke
dirkzor
VE
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 25 2012 22:10 GMT
#1255
Toadesstern last minute doubtcasting and overall weak play is highly suspect as well, if I were a DT I'd pick him or BC probably.

At least we know now it isn't a no-flip game. If Scum have janitor, one-shot janitor maybe, I'd use it Day 1 no matter if RedFF were town or not. The confusion it would cause is worth it either way
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 25 2012 22:13 GMT
#1259
Why do we look bad and not
Dirkzor
Jitsu
BloodyC0bbler

what is so special about risk/wbg/ve/chaoser's votes on BH???
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 25 2012 22:26 GMT
#1262
I didn't attack you all day

have you never been pressured before/
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 25 2012 22:27 GMT
#1263
On February 26 2012 07:26 syllogism wrote:
So what about RoL, Toad?

RoL is his gf
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 25 2012 23:45 GMT
#1269
I don't understand what you are saying. I have never said you are more suspicious based on the fact that BH flipped town. I said you were suspicious by being so aware of it or concerned about it. Your play is completely defensive and seems to me based around how town views you rather than how you look for scum.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 26 2012 00:14 GMT
#1271
Why did you vote for BH if you thought he had a decent chance instead of people you thought were scum like RN or Chaoser. It's classic bet hedging. There is absolutely nothing wrong with acknowledging that he might flip town, I did that too. So did other people. You talking about alternatives also isn't scummy and I never said it was. Now you're defending yourself against shit I'm not saying and never said, the implicit guilt is just oozing out.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 26 2012 01:54 GMT
#1280
On February 26 2012 10:40 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2012 10:38 Toadesstern wrote:
On February 26 2012 10:31 wherebugsgo wrote:
On February 26 2012 10:25 Toadesstern wrote:
On February 26 2012 10:07 wherebugsgo wrote:
We should 100% kill RoL if he is alive by morning.

He's continually promised more and his promise of more was just a shitty case on Dr. H.

Right now I'm fairly tired of reading and/or responding to retarded posts that I pretty much know are being made by townies, since it's just a waste of time. So from now on I'm just going to ignore that stuff and focus on things I find scummy.


are you at least telling me if that's me, DocH or Tyrran you're referring to if you're not willing to talk about it?

What are you suggesting we do with people like Risk and Chaoser? Clearly they have no interest in proving that they're town.


half of your posts are not worth responding to, ones like this are okay.

I'm fine with killing chaoser, but risk.nuke I'm not so sure about because he's done some weird things that I don't think a scum would do. I think he's one of the dumber townies.

Why are you okay with killing chaoser but not risk?
Chaoser said he was busy and will start posting soon (tm) while risk is doing that on purpose.


replace "chaoser" with RoL and tell me why we shouldn't kill him.


when RoL actually does show up he posts like scum, chaoser is inconclusively inactive

I'm mostly concerned by what RoL isn't saying, things he isn't noticing that he usually jumps all over people for but he just harps on about Red's claim and is OMGUSing hard
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 26 2012 18:13 GMT
#1289
On February 26 2012 23:42 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2012 10:54 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On February 26 2012 10:40 wherebugsgo wrote:
On February 26 2012 10:38 Toadesstern wrote:
On February 26 2012 10:31 wherebugsgo wrote:
On February 26 2012 10:25 Toadesstern wrote:
On February 26 2012 10:07 wherebugsgo wrote:
We should 100% kill RoL if he is alive by morning.

He's continually promised more and his promise of more was just a shitty case on Dr. H.

Right now I'm fairly tired of reading and/or responding to retarded posts that I pretty much know are being made by townies, since it's just a waste of time. So from now on I'm just going to ignore that stuff and focus on things I find scummy.


are you at least telling me if that's me, DocH or Tyrran you're referring to if you're not willing to talk about it?

What are you suggesting we do with people like Risk and Chaoser? Clearly they have no interest in proving that they're town.


half of your posts are not worth responding to, ones like this are okay.

I'm fine with killing chaoser, but risk.nuke I'm not so sure about because he's done some weird things that I don't think a scum would do. I think he's one of the dumber townies.

Why are you okay with killing chaoser but not risk?
Chaoser said he was busy and will start posting soon (tm) while risk is doing that on purpose.


replace "chaoser" with RoL and tell me why we shouldn't kill him.


when RoL actually does show up he posts like scum, chaoser is inconclusively inactive

I'm mostly concerned by what RoL isn't saying, things he isn't noticing that he usually jumps all over people for but he just harps on about Red's claim and is OMGUSing hard

You are retarded, I am not responding to your posts anymore. This game is seriously annoying me. I said you were scummy Day 1 and just because you put out some bullshit analysis on me first doesn't mean I am OMGUSing you. You ASKED for me to explain how RedFF is scummy and I did yet I am scummy for "continuing" to mention it when I brought it up like twice?

Excellent!
But its great you don't even know how to use OMGUS properly. If an accusation comes out of nowhere, then yes that could be an OMGUS scumtell. But its not a scumtell when I already voiced suspicions of you, I am allowed to think my accuser is legitimately scummy and when I have showed you before that, that is the case then you have no leg to stand on.

Stop being bad.


Then don't respond to me maybe you'll do one useful thing in this entire game, it'd be best if you died now though
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 26 2012 22:10 GMT
#1294
???? if he is town he is a terrible target for scum to hit
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 26 2012 22:52 GMT
#1301
On February 27 2012 07:47 Dirkzor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2012 07:30 Toadesstern wrote:
On February 27 2012 07:23 layabout wrote:
Toad, how could he answer your question?

he's not supposed to. It was rhetorical and I'm just saying it looks really strange that we have not a single suspicious guy flipping because of vigs.
At least both syllo and Jackal look like mafia work.


I disagree: Jackal could very well have been a Town vig... Jackal is hard to read and he havent really been Mr. Helpful.

If a vig hit Jackal I think they might as well claim so
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 27 2012 19:16 GMT
#1326
I think Dirkzor/Toadesstern are mafia

BC's town hasn't been impressive this game at all. Yes he is (according to everyone else here) a semi-god who plays a sick mafia but his townplay so far has not impressed me at all. Neither did it in L. Not saying it's bad, just not what I expected after everyone yelling "omfg BC top 3 players on TL" (or whatever).


Assumption that BC is town. This either means that he knows BC's alignment is town (meaning scum or DT) or that they are both scum and Toades is afraid to say anything suspicious of BC. Dunno.

I've actually seen RoL play this badly as town before. I think he ragequit Salem after someone accused him of being scum. It made him so angry that he flamed the shit out of the guy (idr who it was) then roleclaimed and left the game.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 27 2012 20:35 GMT
#1336
On February 28 2012 04:26 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2012 04:16 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
I think Dirkzor/Toadesstern are mafia

BC's town hasn't been impressive this game at all. Yes he is (according to everyone else here) a semi-god who plays a sick mafia but his townplay so far has not impressed me at all. Neither did it in L. Not saying it's bad, just not what I expected after everyone yelling "omfg BC top 3 players on TL" (or whatever).


Assumption that BC is town. This either means that he knows BC's alignment is town (meaning scum or DT) or that they are both scum and Toades is afraid to say anything suspicious of BC. Dunno.

I've actually seen RoL play this badly as town before. I think he ragequit Salem after someone accused him of being scum. It made him so angry that he flamed the shit out of the guy (idr who it was) then roleclaimed and left the game.


RoL was a mod of salem with me >.>

oh shit wait who was it who ragequit that game
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 27 2012 20:37 GMT
#1337
On February 28 2012 04:33 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2012 04:16 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
I think Dirkzor/Toadesstern are mafia

BC's town hasn't been impressive this game at all. Yes he is (according to everyone else here) a semi-god who plays a sick mafia but his townplay so far has not impressed me at all. Neither did it in L. Not saying it's bad, just not what I expected after everyone yelling "omfg BC top 3 players on TL" (or whatever).


Assumption that BC is town. This either means that he knows BC's alignment is town (meaning scum or DT) or that they are both scum and Toades is afraid to say anything suspicious of BC. Dunno.

I've actually seen RoL play this badly as town before. I think he ragequit Salem after someone accused him of being scum. It made him so angry that he flamed the shit out of the guy (idr who it was) then roleclaimed and left the game.


As a note DrH to help prove your point, i believe mafia 42 (i believe this is flamewheels weird mason mechanic game) would fit the bill for RoL playing badly as town. He lurked until heavily called out, then proceeded to push lynches on townies and get into pointless arguments with his accusers.

RoL is the kind of guy who will call anyone who calls him out a retard and get super mad if hes town and it's the only thing that makes me doubt he might be scum

I always tried to get youngminii lynched for the same reasons and we ended up both being town or he'd shoot me
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 27 2012 20:39 GMT
#1338
Oh wait it was scara who got modkilled in Salem right? I got him confused with RoL.

@Toades

It isn't a scumslip to say he's pretty sure these 3 guys are scum. You're grasping at straws defensively, it's really obvious to me now.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 27 2012 21:17 GMT
#1347
what is the point of actively pushing lynches when the bandwagon has always swung where i wanted? i haven't HAD to push
RIP Aaliyah
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