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On February 23 2012 06:23 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2012 06:22 Toadesstern wrote:On February 23 2012 06:06 Blazinghand wrote:
So the case on BC is
All he's basically done is argue with jackal
He's mad for no reason
he jumped on the redFF wagon
he hasn't been helpful
He's BC, and these things together are uncharismatic of both town play but also BC play in general, town or scum. However we'd be lynching the crap out of him if he were anyone else
Layabout doesn't want to get shot
and this is more convincing than the case against redFF> On February 23 2012 06:11 Blazinghand wrote:Alright lets roll this wagon across the finish line. I'll vote him  I anticipate this will earn me lots of town credit and you guys will be like "wow blazinghand what a fortuitous voteswitch, that makes you a good person" and send me chocolates and stuff but you don't have my address so I won't get any which is really actually good since I'm trying to lose weight On February 23 2012 06:17 Blazinghand wrote:
dude layabout we kind of need another vote and there's like 40 minutes left, get over here Ok those 3 posts worry me A LOT right now. Anyone got the same feeling? goddamn it's like anything I do everyone's like "oh hey BH isn't acting normal" well you can go eat a dick
well yeah you posted a list (my first quote) which really looked like "really? That's all you got and and the reason you want to lynch BC?" went on to "whatevs, voting time" and next thing "gogo vote BC". You've got to agree that that looks weird don't you?
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ok I voted BH. I still think BC has done nothing to prove he's town so far. I still think he is an issue but the 3 posts from BH I quoted really are troublesome. That means that I think BH is more likely scum than BC. That means I think a scum is/was voting BC.
Therefore I don't want BC to die right now.
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On February 23 2012 06:47 Jitsu wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2012 05:15 Toadesstern wrote:
oh crap it's actually only 1:50hours until deadline oO
Yeah totally voting BC right now, I had the balls to vote BC for mayor in GM's game although everyone said it's way too dangerous to vote and I'm having the balls to lynch him today. With this stacked of a set-up my "don't lynch vets d1"-rule really isn't an option. In 20-something games with 4 to 6 vets I still think it's good to not lynch into that but there's no possibility to think about that in this game. Did this catch anyone else's eye, or am I seeing shit. When was it implied that the set-up was stacked? I know Palmar said the Set-Up was "hard,"...but "stacked" is another thing all together. Stacked would imply you have a knowledge as to the ratio of faction to another faction. Viscera, how sure are you on BC?
stacked in like "we got more vets than people who are not vets"
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yo bugs, still arround?
Thoughts about what I said here:
On February 23 2012 06:22 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2012 06:06 Blazinghand wrote:
So the case on BC is
All he's basically done is argue with jackal
He's mad for no reason
he jumped on the redFF wagon
he hasn't been helpful
He's BC, and these things together are uncharismatic of both town play but also BC play in general, town or scum. However we'd be lynching the crap out of him if he were anyone else
Layabout doesn't want to get shot
and this is more convincing than the case against redFF> Show nested quote +On February 23 2012 06:11 Blazinghand wrote:Alright lets roll this wagon across the finish line. I'll vote him I anticipate this will earn me lots of town credit and you guys will be like "wow blazinghand what a fortuitous voteswitch, that makes you a good person" and send me chocolates and stuff but you don't have my address so I won't get any which is really actually good since I'm trying to lose weight Show nested quote +On February 23 2012 06:17 Blazinghand wrote:
dude layabout we kind of need another vote and there's like 40 minutes left, get over here Ok those 3 posts worry me A LOT right now. Anyone got the same feeling?
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do you think I found a townie who is scared as hell and therefore makes no sense to protect himself or do you think I found a mafia that makes no sense because he has to put his vote somewhere?
I basicly interpret his first post as "well guys, I read the cases on BC and THAT'S all you got? Seriously? And you're considering voting BC because of just that?" and goes on to say what he said in his 2nd and 3rd post. That's just so wtf.
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On February 23 2012 15:41 VisceraEyes wrote:
Also, are you sure it was a power and not some mechanic?
Palmar said it's a normal game and only the roles themselves are somewhat weird not the set-up itself. So I'd say it's not a mechanic.
I'd say we're good to assume it was some weird role.
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This is a closed normal setup. There are however variations of roles that can be considered non-normal. Thus you should treat this game as something of a borderline themed/normal. The distinction is somewhat hard to make, so just keep it in mind as you enter the game.
It has no explicit themes. It’s only the roles that make the game somewhat unusual. There may be more than 2 factions in the game.
That's what our OP says. Looks to me like the only possibility is a weird role.
I don't know how you think about this but I consider a no-flip-mechanic as something unusual.
This shouldn't even be a topic. I don't know what's happening but I'd say it's something that has to do some some 3rd party or mafia role and there's no way it is some weird mechanic like VE or kita said because again, according to what I quoted that would be mentioned in the OP.
For all I care I don't even care right now. RedFF was ragequitting, maybe he knew what was going to happen because he's third party and he somehow did this, maybe he had no idea what was going on. I don't know and speculating about such a thing is not going to help us.
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On February 24 2012 06:32 Jitsu wrote:+ Show Spoiler +I agree with what DocH has to say about Dirkzor, for obvious reasons.
Especially the part where he makes a huge post based on the perception that Chaoser is lying, and then doesn't even vote him. If he thought he was actually scum, I feel he would have voted for him. But to build a case on someone and then not even be willing to get him lynched, let alone feel pressure? Come on, bro.
That lack of flip is making me WIFOM everything. Literally. I think that the no-flip was triggered by a role. Obviously the no-flip application is only really beneficial to the mafia side, so I can't decide whether they did it to hide the fact that he actually wasn't a tracker blue. The other thing in my head is that the mafia is trying to hide an attempted early bus on him, and because of the failed vote switch to BC, they needed to throw suspicion off that person. + Show Spoiler +
I can't think of any other motivations for the mafia to block the flip like that. There is always the possibility that it's a mechanic, but, as stated earlier, I don't think it's possible.
Risk.nuke, where ya at, brah. You still think I should be lynched? You said it mid-day through Day1, and BH tacked onto the attack with you, and since then, you just dipped off the radar.
At the time, you obviously thought that I was mafia, else you wouldn't push for my lynch, right? Along the way, where did you disregard you're gut feeling on me?
How should mafia know if he really is a blue tracker or not? Unless redFF is mafia himself mafia won't know his role and therefore the first statement is probably not a possibility or at least not the reason they did it.
I really still think it's either a 3rd party power or something like a role who dies when lynched but flips a day later. I can't recall what that role was called right now.
Yeah mafia somehow hiding the flips is possibly but pretty unlikely, why should they do that if it's a 1-shot power?
So either a townie who flips the next day or a some weird 3rd party shit.
I doubt they bussed redFF.
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On February 24 2012 06:44 syllogism wrote:
A third party power that hides flips makes no sense at all. What possible function would that serve?
I have no idea. I really don't know what kind of thirdparty roles excist and all I know about them is what I know from irc-Mafia and that Batman and Catwoman might exist. Other than that I never saw a thirdparty role in a game.
I'd say it's something like that for me:
It's probably the townie that dies when lynched but flips a day later.
It's maybe some weird 3rd party shit I don't know.
It's pretty unlikely that it's a mafia power but could be.
Maybe it's nothing of thos 3 things :p
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On February 24 2012 06:54 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2012 06:53 Toadesstern wrote:On February 24 2012 06:44 syllogism wrote:
A third party power that hides flips makes no sense at all. What possible function would that serve? I have no idea. I really don't know what kind of thirdparty roles excist and all I know about them is what I know from irc-Mafia and that Batman and Catwoman might exist. Other than that I never saw a thirdparty role in a game. I'd say it's something like that for me: It's probably the townie that dies when lynched but flips a day later. It's maybe some weird 3rd party shit I don't know. It's pretty unlikely that it's a mafia power but could be. Maybe it's nothing of thos 3 things :p 1) Assuming redFF was town-aligned, why would he claim tracker rather than that power or whatever? That doesn't make sense. 2) Unlikely 3) Hey now that makes sense, because hiding flips helps MAFIA
1) Because redFF is redFF and wants to survive and thought he had to claim blue.
2) Agree
3) I don't think so. If that ability would be a 1-shot they totally wasted it. And no, I seriously doubt that it's a "normal flip game" but palmar gave a mafia the ability to hide flips every single day essentially making it a no-flip game
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On February 24 2012 07:06 Jackal58 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2012 07:01 Toadesstern wrote:On February 24 2012 06:54 Blazinghand wrote:On February 24 2012 06:53 Toadesstern wrote:On February 24 2012 06:44 syllogism wrote:
A third party power that hides flips makes no sense at all. What possible function would that serve? I have no idea. I really don't know what kind of thirdparty roles excist and all I know about them is what I know from irc-Mafia and that Batman and Catwoman might exist. Other than that I never saw a thirdparty role in a game. I'd say it's something like that for me: It's probably the townie that dies when lynched but flips a day later. It's maybe some weird 3rd party shit I don't know. It's pretty unlikely that it's a mafia power but could be. Maybe it's nothing of thos 3 things :p 1) Assuming redFF was town-aligned, why would he claim tracker rather than that power or whatever? That doesn't make sense. 2) Unlikely 3) Hey now that makes sense, because hiding flips helps MAFIA 1) Because redFF is redFF and wants to survive and thought he had to claim blue. 2) Agree 3) I don't think so. If that ability would be a 1-shot they totally wasted it. And no, I seriously doubt that it's a "normal flip game" but palmar gave a mafia the ability to hide flips every single day essentially making it a no-flip game O rly?
read the sentence
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On February 24 2012 07:08 Jackal58 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2012 07:07 Toadesstern wrote:On February 24 2012 07:06 Jackal58 wrote:On February 24 2012 07:01 Toadesstern wrote:On February 24 2012 06:54 Blazinghand wrote:On February 24 2012 06:53 Toadesstern wrote:On February 24 2012 06:44 syllogism wrote:
A third party power that hides flips makes no sense at all. What possible function would that serve? I have no idea. I really don't know what kind of thirdparty roles excist and all I know about them is what I know from irc-Mafia and that Batman and Catwoman might exist. Other than that I never saw a thirdparty role in a game. I'd say it's something like that for me: It's probably the townie that dies when lynched but flips a day later. It's maybe some weird 3rd party shit I don't know. It's pretty unlikely that it's a mafia power but could be. Maybe it's nothing of thos 3 things :p 1) Assuming redFF was town-aligned, why would he claim tracker rather than that power or whatever? That doesn't make sense. 2) Unlikely 3) Hey now that makes sense, because hiding flips helps MAFIA 1) Because redFF is redFF and wants to survive and thought he had to claim blue. 2) Agree 3) I don't think so. If that ability would be a 1-shot they totally wasted it. And no, I seriously doubt that it's a "normal flip game" but palmar gave a mafia the ability to hide flips every single day essentially making it a no-flip game O rly? read the sentence I did.
so what's the problem with me saying that I doubt that palmar gave mafia that power?
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are you drunk or did I make some grammar mistake and we're both reading something else?
I seriously doubt that it's a "normal flip game" but palmar gave a mafia the ability to hide flips every single day essentially making it a no-flip game
To me this reads as "I doubt it's a normal game and palmar ended up giving mafia an ability to make it an unnormal game".
You just bolded the last part without reading the first part or I don't know what's going on oO
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Okay I think I understand what you thinkt I said
You thought I'm saying: I doubt X, but palmar ended up Y
I was actually saying: I doubt (X + Y)
or at least that's what I was trying to say
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On February 24 2012 07:23 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2012 07:17 Toadesstern wrote:are you drunk or did I make some grammar mistake and we're both reading something else? I seriously doubt that it's a "normal flip game" but palmar gave a mafia the ability to hide flips every single day essentially making it a no-flip game To me this reads as "I doubt it's a normal game and palmar ended up giving mafia an ability to make it an unnormal game". You just bolded the last part without reading the first part or I don't know what's going on oO Did you know there was gonna be no night kill
No I did not.
What kind of question is that?
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On February 24 2012 07:46 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2012 07:37 Jitsu wrote:
Make a case on what? I said you are playing bad. I didn't say you are scum.
Guilty conscience? So you think I'm town
he says he has no clue because it could be both, bad Town and bad Mafia.
And no way we got VIs. Yeah maybe in irc mafia games because it's funny after all but that role is just ridiculous when people are playing real.
I'd say BH is still mafia because I just don't see him the way he posts right now.
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On February 24 2012 09:38 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2012 09:36 VisceraEyes wrote:On February 24 2012 09:31 Blazinghand wrote:
##unvote bloodyc0bbler Well, that didn't take much. I appreciate the effort BC. If your quality of posting stays at least close to the quality of your last post, I can entertain the possibility of lynching others first. What are your thoughts on WBG BC? at the moment an aggressive asshat who needs to shape up or ship out.
you don't think BH is weird?
Or are you not sure if it's mafia-weird or wtf-weird?
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On February 24 2012 10:07 Blazinghand wrote:I don't like risk.nuke. He did nothing but make some vague complaints about redFF, then nakedly voted BC with no explanation, and when questioned, was like: Show nested quote +On February 23 2012 06:46 risk.nuke wrote:On February 23 2012 06:42 Dirkzor wrote:
15 min to lynch.
Risk you are around?!? Any thought instead of just voting BC?! Yeah I don't want to lynch redFF, just got home. So I threw my vote on BC because I like syllo. And has since disappeared from the thread. He's probably hanging out with his scumteam being like "hey guys check out this mad lurking skill" and lurking. ##vote: risk.nuke
and I don't like that you don't like him because I don't like him either 
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On February 24 2012 10:12 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2012 10:09 prplhz wrote:
I'm busy and I don't see much reason for me to talk unless people want my opinion in which case I'm very open about it. I have no idea what your problem is, there are several other players who are being more meek and closed and useless and scummy than I am. I don't think BloodyC0bbler is scum because his wagon could easily have gotten rolling in the last hour of yesterday and he was very close to getting lynched and I think scum would have prevented that. How do you feel about that? Um...we're talking to BC right now. Scum DID prevent "that". What are you even talking about guy?
I was one of the guys who unvoted BC the last 30 minutes Because he suddenly jumped to a lot of votes from people I do not like. I quoted those 3 posts BH did if you remember that. Risk voted BC without a reason and it really looked like scum actually tried to get BC haning the last couple of minutes. However I doubt that mafia commited, they probably thought BC is a better lynch then redFF for mafia (if both are town, which I am inclined to believe) and therefore probably got 1, maybe 2 people voting BC as well.
That's my interpretation of what happened yesterday. That's why I unvoted BC and voted BH instead.
Do you think I am mafia VE?
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Ok am back.
Lynching Rol seems fine to me. lynching risk would be nice as well.
And BH is still a huge isue for me. He's so scummy I can't believe it. He hasn't claimed mafia in the thread like wbg was saying but it's really strange.
In fact I don't think a player that gets coaching from scumbuddies would play like that unless told to do that on purpose because it's freaking with people's radar.
So imo it's either a mafia who is told to post shit because he's already dead in their opinion which is HIGHLY unlikely or it's a townie that is confused a lot. Or the explanation I like the most: Palmar is a huge dick and seriously added a VI to this game.
I don't know enough about Palmars dickerieness so I'd stick with the confused townie for now.
It's frankly the same feeling I had in L about palmar. It was just so over the top weird / scummy that I thought there's no way he's that bad. In L I had a nice explanation for that behavior because I thought Palmar is stubborn after his last game, however I don't have one here which is the reason I'm using "confused" for whatever is going on in his head.
Still reading the last 5 or so pages.
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