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On February 22 2012 23:42 syllogism wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2012 23:34 Jackal58 wrote:On February 22 2012 21:59 syllogism wrote:
As I noted earlier, I do not think it's likely that the setup has a scum tracker but no town tracker. Therefore the town tracker can just counter claim him, but I doubt that's going to happen as it's more likely that he is our town tracker. These are assumptions, but reasonable and likely ones. Anyway, I don't think he is town because of his claim, but due to other aforementioned evidence and rationale. What if there are 2 separate scum factions Syllo? Palmar states that multiple factions are a possibility in the OP. I am not convinced red is town. A townie redFF would never call me a good scum hunter. He has made a point of telling me and others how much I suck at this game in the past. I can't reconcile this- On February 22 2012 07:09 redFF wrote:what, jackal said he thought toad was scum, i think jackal is a good scumhunter, i have similar thoughts, i post why i think toad is scum, jackal says he never thought toad was scum, i call him a wily old fox. - with a townie redFF. OP says there are 4 mafia, so that's not a possibility
I don't see how that precludes the possibility.
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On February 23 2012 02:41 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2012 02:31 Jackal58 wrote:On February 22 2012 23:42 syllogism wrote:On February 22 2012 23:34 Jackal58 wrote:On February 22 2012 21:59 syllogism wrote:
As I noted earlier, I do not think it's likely that the setup has a scum tracker but no town tracker. Therefore the town tracker can just counter claim him, but I doubt that's going to happen as it's more likely that he is our town tracker. These are assumptions, but reasonable and likely ones. Anyway, I don't think he is town because of his claim, but due to other aforementioned evidence and rationale. What if there are 2 separate scum factions Syllo? Palmar states that multiple factions are a possibility in the OP. I am not convinced red is town. A townie redFF would never call me a good scum hunter. He has made a point of telling me and others how much I suck at this game in the past. I can't reconcile this- On February 22 2012 07:09 redFF wrote:what, jackal said he thought toad was scum, i think jackal is a good scumhunter, i have similar thoughts, i post why i think toad is scum, jackal says he never thought toad was scum, i call him a wily old fox. - with a townie redFF. OP says there are 4 mafia, so that's not a possibility I don't see how that precludes the possibility. If I remember right the wording was kind of funny, but the other faction was supposed to refer to the possibility of a serial killer. The odds of two scum factions with two players each is really low, it would be near impossible for them to win.
On February 19 2012 21:05 Palmar wrote:Game specific rules and notes: The SetupThis is a closed normal setup. There are however variations of roles that can be considered non-normal. Thus you should treat this game as something of a borderline themed/normal. The distinction is somewhat hard to make, so just keep it in mind as you enter the game. It has no explicit themes. It’s only the roles that make the game somewhat unusual. There may be more than 2 factions in the game. This is a hard setup. It's not forgiving for any faction. Mistakes, disinterest and general incompetence can lead to a quick victory for either side. The game might even feel unbalanced if one side screws up too hard. But trust me that we've gone through like 10 iterations to get this right. This is a hard setup. I will be expecting everyone to play to their win condition and participate in the game as they best see fit.
Sounds like he tried to make near impossible for any body to win.
If redFF rage quit as it appears why are we discussing him anyways. We should be looking at other possibilities.
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Syllo, have you ever played with prplhz before? That's about as lucid as he gets.
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Ya I'm down with a BH lynch. I'd prefer that over a redFF lynch at this point. If red did indeed rage quit then Palmar can deal with him.
Syllo there is a much greater chance of you flipping scum than prplhz.
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On February 23 2012 03:52 prplhz wrote:
I also think that Jackal58 is being weird with his insistence on the possibility of several scum factions (ludicrous), his flip flopping on redFF (town redFF wouldn't think Jackal58 is a good scum hunter is a terrible argument, saying that we shouldn't lynch redFF anyway because Palmar will take care of him. What the fuck, you lynch scummy bastards you don't just expect them to get modkilled because they didn't talk for a day). Also, his Toadesstern tunneling looked very weird since I think we were beyond the more randomy initial phase when he started that. I don't care that he was drunk.
I'm not insisting anything. I'm simply not ruling it out as a possibility. And I'm not flip flopping on red. I think he rage quit and is now a non issue. Certainly not worth wasting a lynch on. If he comes back I'd have no problem with hanging him.
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On February 23 2012 04:34 prplhz wrote:Actually, Jackal58 looks terrible. Those points I just mentioned, his weird defense of me (it was a meta-y defense and I don't think I looked anything like I usually do), saying that syllogism is a better lynch than me which is just crazy considering the information he had available. This post which is guilty of the same thing we're accusing BloodyC0bbler of, complaining about thread without providing an alternative direction. The only thing that speaks in Jackal58's defense is that it's usually hard to distinguish his scum from his town play. I'm easily more willing to lynch Jackal58 today than redFF.
On February 22 2012 07:42 redFF wrote:
I usually enjoy mafia but wbg has made this game incredibly unfun. wbg if you're sole goal in playing has been to make me mad, consider it accomplished. im out.
inb4 lol, AtE, drama queen, w/e, you're a fucking dick and you actively drive people from this forum.
peace.
Try reading instead of listening to the voices man. I know red has been online since this.
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On February 23 2012 06:06 Blazinghand wrote:
So the case on BC is
All he's basically done is argue with jackal
He's mad for no reason
he jumped on the redFF wagon
he hasn't been helpful
He's BC, and these things together are uncharismatic of both town play but also BC play in general, town or scum. However we'd be lynching the crap out of him if he were anyone else
Layabout doesn't want to get shot
and this is more convincing than the case against redFF>
BC didn't argue with me?????
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On February 23 2012 06:22 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2012 06:06 Blazinghand wrote:
So the case on BC is
All he's basically done is argue with jackal
He's mad for no reason
he jumped on the redFF wagon
he hasn't been helpful
He's BC, and these things together are uncharismatic of both town play but also BC play in general, town or scum. However we'd be lynching the crap out of him if he were anyone else
Layabout doesn't want to get shot
and this is more convincing than the case against redFF> Show nested quote +On February 23 2012 06:11 Blazinghand wrote:Alright lets roll this wagon across the finish line. I'll vote him  I anticipate this will earn me lots of town credit and you guys will be like "wow blazinghand what a fortuitous voteswitch, that makes you a good person" and send me chocolates and stuff but you don't have my address so I won't get any which is really actually good since I'm trying to lose weight Show nested quote +On February 23 2012 06:17 Blazinghand wrote:
dude layabout we kind of need another vote and there's like 40 minutes left, get over here Ok those 3 posts worry me A LOT right now. Anyone got the same feeling?
Yessir.
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On February 23 2012 06:23 Blazinghand wrote:
Also in the middle post everything after the smiley is a joke, in case your autism filter is turned on to full blast atm
You don't play a very good Bugs man.
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On February 23 2012 06:28 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2012 06:21 Dirkzor wrote:Its not like the BC wagon is forming quickly. Scum voting for RedFF can just sit there and hope 7 votes are enough to hang RedFF. And to be precise we have 3 wagons. RedFF Bloodyc0bble  --------------> Blazinghand <-------------- RedFF is a non-issue. He don't want to play anymore. If he returns we can take the discussion again. There are argument for and against keeping him alive even if he is scum. Bloodyc0bble is gone. He don't care. He is indifferent. He have been a target for some time now but he don't want to defend himself. Okayish lynch. Blazinghand is so far of his meta and have been sheeping thought troughout the game. He is the best lynch today and everyone should vote him. Ok, i have to take off for work soon but as it seems people are being retarded I have to come in and defend myself. Reasons like this post are reasons I am more or less a dick this game. You just said redff is a non issue because he doesn't want to play? If he is scum he is still going to help his team and guess what else? It means you just gave him a free pass to lurk the fuck out of the game without ever contributing and not die unless he actively posts. There are no activity requirements this game and you are letting someone go with a free pass seriously. You then paint a bullseye on me for being indifferent and not defending myself? The case against me is terrible. Wasting my time on a case that imo doesn't warrant being lynched on is something I should never have to respond to. The fact that said case is also being pushed by players who know better is even sadder. Whats even worse is you have those same people pushing my lynch saying I am more likely scum, yet one of the major reasons for their defense (as near all of them have also defended redff), is that there was near no resistance to his lynch. Guess what? I have seen very few people defend me through this lynch yet redff has had a ton defending him.
If redFF quit he will not be mod killed for inactivity. But he will get mod killed for not voting. If he votes without posting we lynch him. He has already voted today before he quit I believe. I think it's a wasted lynch.
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On February 23 2012 06:38 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2012 06:36 Jackal58 wrote:On February 23 2012 06:28 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On February 23 2012 06:21 Dirkzor wrote:Its not like the BC wagon is forming quickly. Scum voting for RedFF can just sit there and hope 7 votes are enough to hang RedFF. And to be precise we have 3 wagons. RedFF Bloodyc0bble --------------> Blazinghand <-------------- RedFF is a non-issue. He don't want to play anymore. If he returns we can take the discussion again. There are argument for and against keeping him alive even if he is scum. Bloodyc0bble is gone. He don't care. He is indifferent. He have been a target for some time now but he don't want to defend himself. Okayish lynch. Blazinghand is so far of his meta and have been sheeping thought troughout the game. He is the best lynch today and everyone should vote him. Ok, i have to take off for work soon but as it seems people are being retarded I have to come in and defend myself. Reasons like this post are reasons I am more or less a dick this game. You just said redff is a non issue because he doesn't want to play? If he is scum he is still going to help his team and guess what else? It means you just gave him a free pass to lurk the fuck out of the game without ever contributing and not die unless he actively posts. There are no activity requirements this game and you are letting someone go with a free pass seriously. You then paint a bullseye on me for being indifferent and not defending myself? The case against me is terrible. Wasting my time on a case that imo doesn't warrant being lynched on is something I should never have to respond to. The fact that said case is also being pushed by players who know better is even sadder. Whats even worse is you have those same people pushing my lynch saying I am more likely scum, yet one of the major reasons for their defense (as near all of them have also defended redff), is that there was near no resistance to his lynch. Guess what? I have seen very few people defend me through this lynch yet redff has had a ton defending him. If redFF quit he will not be mod killed for inactivity. But he will get mod killed for not voting. If he votes without posting we lynch him. He has already voted today before he quit I believe. I think it's a wasted lynch. brilliant plan but redFF has already voted, on toad
On February 23 2012 06:39 Blazinghand wrote:
Like are we gonna lynch redFF day3 for a non vote on Day 2? I'm pretty sure that's not even a realistic possibility
Apparently the new paradigm on TL Mafia requires me to call a person an idiot, moron, incompetent, useless, whatever other term of derision you care to employ before a person is capable of seeing the point being made. I won't play that game but I do wish you would read what I posted with something above a 1st grade comprehension level.
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On February 23 2012 06:52 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2012 05:29 syllogism wrote:
Kita I know you have been around and yet do not care enough to even post. This is the second game in a row you have been completely worthless in thread and at least in arkham you were town. Is this your new standard of play? No need to call people worthless in games you haven't played. It isn't the first time you've done it and it isn't constructive. I haven't been completely absent in this game, I've had classes for the last 7 hours. Show nested quote +On February 22 2012 23:34 Jackal58 wrote:On February 22 2012 21:59 syllogism wrote:
As I noted earlier, I do not think it's likely that the setup has a scum tracker but no town tracker. Therefore the town tracker can just counter claim him, but I doubt that's going to happen as it's more likely that he is our town tracker. These are assumptions, but reasonable and likely ones. Anyway, I don't think he is town because of his claim, but due to other aforementioned evidence and rationale. What if there are 2 separate scum factions Syllo? Palmar states that multiple factions are a possibility in the OP. Are you questioning whether red could be scum, just not from the same scum faction as yours? Because that's sure is a strange question to ask from a town perspective. Jackal has a really poor filter and I think we should consider him tomorrow. Show nested quote +On February 23 2012 01:05 Tyrran wrote:
There is the possibility that red is 3rd faction. That could explain several thing. mmk, so now rather than a separate scum faction, he might be third party? Scummy conclusion to make. blazing has moved his vote around plenty of times on the first day, which is a heuristic that generally points town. He can live. The biggest thing about BC is his view of red. He goes from having a null/"bad" read on red to voting him based on the claim. What I'm wondering is if redff plans to save himself with his vote. Catching up on the posts that were made since typing this up, then I'll make my decision. (yay for last minute swings)
My poor little filter.
My question regarding factions has to do with me seeing scummy looking people pushing other scummy looking people. Not a hard concept to grasp.
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On February 23 2012 06:57 Blazinghand wrote:
Well good news for you WBG is that redFF is dead.
Happy little scum bucket aren't you.
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On February 23 2012 06:58 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2012 06:58 Jackal58 wrote:On February 23 2012 06:57 Blazinghand wrote:
Well good news for you WBG is that redFF is dead. Happy little scum bucket aren't you. AS a town player your goal is to not get mislynched, if you do it's your own fault.
But you're not town are you?
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Well that was underwhelming.
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On February 23 2012 12:36 chaoser wrote:
oh...the day ended...my bad guys. Is it always 5 EST?
Only twice a day man.
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On February 23 2012 21:14 syllogism wrote:
Based on thread activity and the vote spread, it doesn't appear that likely that BC is scum. Should have lynched jackal for his strange remark about prplhz looking townier at the time than I. Also, while he is never verbose with his reads, his posts so far have been closer to his scum style than his town. Certainly better than lynching our basically confirmed tracker and it's quite stunning to see the list of names who failed to see that.
Context. Learn it.
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On February 23 2012 22:51 syllogism wrote:
Amazingly enough that sounds like town jackal talking but it's always hard to tell
My point regarding Prp was that he is always convoluted in his logic and his presentations. You were calling him scummy due to this. I asked if you had ever played with him before because if you had you would understand that his play style you were calling him on is not a scum tell for him. He's always like that. If you had played with him before you are aware of that and pushing for his lynch for the reasons you stated is scummy. But you never answered my question.
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Context!!!!!!!
If Syllo was going to use your inability to post a coherent thought as a reason to lynch you Syllo should be lynched.
What is so fucking hard about that??????
I have no idea if you are scum or not prplhz but I do know that you posting disjointed, incoherent, illogical synaptic mush doesn't mean you're scum.
But dammit man you're trying awfully hard to paint your self red.
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