Look man you have to admit there is irrefutable evidence that I've caught the scumteam of you, Palm, and VE. You're just desperately trying to salvage things for a D3 team, but I'm not gonna let that happen. People will see reason.

Dirkzor

Denmark1944 Posts

March 05 2012 09:06 GMT

#805

On March 05 2012 17:44 Blazinghand wrote:
Okay so I think what happened here is that Palm and VE failed to coordinate and both didn't sabotage! This is good news guys, we just need to remove both of them for the D3 team. I recommend myself and Sent. Let's 3-0 this.

That made me giggle...

Blazinghand

United States25557 Posts

March 05 2012 09:07 GMT

#806

Dirkzor! Surely you, of all people, can sense that something fishy is going on here

Dirkzor

Denmark1944 Posts

March 05 2012 09:08 GMT

#807

On March 05 2012 18:04 Blazinghand wrote:
Look man you have to admit there is irrefutable evidence that I've caught the scumteam of you, Palm, and VE. You're just desperately trying to salvage things for a D3 team, but I'm not gonna let that happen. People will see reason.

Look... Even if you are right why gamble on that? We have a team that succeeded and we're sending the same team... Nothing else make sense. We still have day 4 where they need 2 sabotages... We're golden even if we get 1 sabotage day 3.

Blazinghand

United States25557 Posts

March 05 2012 09:12 GMT

#808

On March 05 2012 18:08 Dirkzor wrote:

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Ok so you THINK that sounds reasonable right and that toally woudl be if only ONE of Palm/VE was scum, because we'd just swap that one out after a D3 sabo and we'd coast through D4 np by adding on an obviously town player like me, and taking someone who seems pretty solid for the 5th man, like Sent.

But what happens if they're both scum? then if we replace one, things get trickier, because if we replace in one scum or add in one scum, they can do the double sabotage on D4. I think we should at the very least replace one of Palm/VE out to solve this problem

Dirkzor

Denmark1944 Posts

March 05 2012 09:14 GMT

#809

On March 05 2012 18:07 Blazinghand wrote:
Dirkzor! Surely you, of all people, can sense that something fishy is going on here

From what read you are flapping about trying to get something to stick. You are not making sense and are all over. Even if Palmar and VE are scum (and they still might... I'm not excluding anything), why not risk sending them day 3 aswell? Why? Well there is a number of reasons:

They can't afford not to sabotage, so maybe both will sabotage.
If they are town, we win.
Even if we only get 1 sabotage we replace both and should be very unlucky to hit the last remeaning scum(s) (1 or 2). If they are both scum we win. If ony 1 is scum the chances are good.

Blazinghand

United States25557 Posts

March 05 2012 09:15 GMT

#810

Ok I've gotta get some sleep, but take a moment to consider how reasonable my arguments are here. I'll be back in the morning to see what the responses of the scumteam are.

Dirkzor

Denmark1944 Posts

March 05 2012 09:19 GMT

#811

BH your plan is NOT reasonable at all. We have a team that have succeeded (twice almost) and you want to change that?!?! What?!?! Does NOT make sense.

I've explained what we'll do if we get 1 or 2 sabotages. We swap both Palmar and VE and cruise to victory... We got this now.

Only place I can see us loose is if only one of Palmar/VE is scum and we are so unnlucky that we change to the 2 remaining scum players. Thats unlikely. And is all else fail we can just add Chaos13 to the team since he isn't here to sabotage anyway even if he is scum.

Easy!

prplhz

Denmark8045 Posts

March 05 2012 09:25 GMT

#812

i dunno... i thikn he might be on to something here dirkzor

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

March 05 2012 09:55 GMT

#813

lol

Dirkzor

Denmark1944 Posts

March 05 2012 09:59 GMT

#814

Even if he is right is doesnt matter. I saw what VE wrote and called it out aswell. But day 4 will save us if they are scum. We replace both and we win.

Forumite

Sweden3280 Posts

March 05 2012 10:01 GMT

#815

EchelonTee is replacing Chaos13

EchelonTee

United States5255 Posts

March 05 2012 11:04 GMT

#816

hey gaiz

Need to catch up on the nuances of the thread, but I know the general picture of what's going on. I'll start posting tomorrow.

I do hope that BH posts that youtube video, though.

EchelonTee

United States5255 Posts

March 05 2012 11:18 GMT

#817

I do need to re-read about what lead up to that point, but I think it's interesting that BH's team didn't include himself. He put together a compromise team just so that it would get through, since it looked like the game was going to dissolve into a draw. There's almost no motivation for a scum BH to not include 1. himself, le scum, or 2. scumbuddy B or C, because, with it being D1, the ability to sneak on a spy rly isn't that hard.

Of course, I still need to do actual analysis.

Off the top of my head prplhz' posting makes me lol the most.

kitaman27

United States9245 Posts

March 05 2012 13:33 GMT

#818

I support this plan. Can I join too? I'm lonely getting left out

Dirkzor

Denmark1944 Posts

March 05 2012 13:48 GMT

#819

It feels weird that I'm the only one who think the same team should go again... It makes the most sense.

For me, both sides could be lieing.

A) So either VE/Palmar is town and we win or
B) Either VE/Palmar (or one of them) is scum and one or both will sabotage day3.

If B) we change both of them with 2 others and win day4. If only one of VE/Palmar is scum we are left with a choice that is:
Don't pick the 2 leftover scum out of the 5 people left. Shit thats should be easy. I