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Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
February 22 2012 17:29 GMT
#361
I could somehow see if you thought youself and VE are the towniest. But Sentinel? Why?
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
February 22 2012 17:34 GMT
#362
Sentinel legitimately called out Navillus for not posting a team and was willing to butt heads with Palmar for it. This strikes me as pro-town behavior that a town player would do. He also called out Kita for his shitty "I only ever vote teams with myself on it idea" and generally has been encouraging good play and pointing out shitty / scummy play. Check his filter-- he calls it like he sees it, and is my biggest town read behind VE.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Navillus
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1188 Posts
February 22 2012 17:55 GMT
#363
Okay I just caught up with everything to some degree, and first thing is I want to apologize to everyone in this thread and especially the mods, what I've been doing has been really shitty of me and I'm very sorry.

As some sort of explanation I thought the game was starting later than it did and over the past 4 or 5 days I've been first stuck at a debate tournament then driving for hours around Vermont looking at colleges, these did not give me a great deal of access to the internet. To be clear this isn't an excuse, I still should have found a way to stay active and I deserve any and all hate that I get, I just want you guys to know there is some sort of reason beyond I don't give a shit.

For right now, I am home and on break until next Monday, I will stay active and if there are any periods where I won't be able to I will make it clear and be active before and after them.

--------------------

On the game, first palmar's team would have been great, I am town. Normally I actually wouldn't care if people think I'm scum as long as it's not enough to get me lynched, but this is a game where every town that people think is scum greatly increases the chances that a scum gets on the team so it needs to be clear that I'm town.

Now I know you guys don't have almost anything to go off of on me but look at what you have. You have me being extremely inactive, now first if you look at my games I have actually never flipped scum on TL, this means 2 things. 1) Look at my town meta, I am often very inactive, this is not the exception to the norm. 2) Don't any of you think that maybe, if I flipped scum for my very first time, I would care about it? The fact is if I got my first scum here I would have been excited enough to definitely try to do something.

In addition to that, my inactivity pretty clearly wasn't some like strategic lurking where I try to stay just under the radar and avoid discussion of me... or if it was I'm fucking terrible at that. No I think it's pretty clear what I was doing was just plain not being in this thread for very long stretches of time. Now that is not a tell either way and if it is it's a town tell per the last paragraph, I'm not dumb enough to think that just never posting would somehow advance the scum objective especially when I had power. I was inactive because of RL but if anything I would have been much more active as scum.

On to the proposed teams I should personally apologize to Palmar because he despite me massively screwing up chose a great team and I didn't even come back to vote for it. That team was perfect. I am town, Palmar's reads on me were exactly right and Dirkzor is my best town read of someone else, Palmar may or may not have been but then if there was sabatoge he wouldn't have been able to get back on a team, he himself said that it would point to him, it wouldn't matter if he changed his mind we have him in text saying that he would be the likely scum one. At this point that makes me fairly confident that Palmar is town, and at that point I will be nay-voting any team that doesn't have as its second and thirds either me, Palmar, or Dirkzor.

Also this is not me jumping into the thread trying to dictate things, this is just the best play that I can see right now. If my reads are correct then we have 3 likely town, that's half the town. Any team that decides its smart to choose from the rest of the pool almost 100% guarantees that it will have scum.

Again, sorry.
"TL gives excellent advice 99% of the time. The problem is no one listens to it." -Plexa
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
February 22 2012 17:59 GMT
#364
On February 23 2012 02:55 Navillus wrote:
2) Don't any of you think that maybe, if I flipped scum for my very first time, I would care about it? The fact is if I got my first scum here I would have been excited enough to definitely try to do something.


Assuming you were legitimately in Vermont, this is not a valid argument. If you can't make it to the thread you can't make it to the thread. I assume you would be excited to play this game regardless.

That being said, it's good to have you back. If you post something other than "hi guys I'm totally town" I'll reconsider my standing nay-vote against you.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Navillus
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1188 Posts
February 22 2012 18:03 GMT
#365
As I said the Vermont thing was something of an explanation but definitely not an excuse. If I'm being honest, I could have found a way to post, I could have used my smartphone when I had service (like half of the state doesn't have service) or slowed us down for ten minutes when we stopped at colleges and connected my laptop, and I probably would have if I were scum and knew that I was 1/3 of my team and really wanted to win my first scumgame, but I'm not so I didn't.
"TL gives excellent advice 99% of the time. The problem is no one listens to it." -Plexa
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 22 2012 18:11 GMT
#366
Well that's right Palmar. I just think that VisceraEyes tries to think a lot more as town these days and 2 hours from yay to nay seems like he's overdoing the careless-town act. kitaman27 could absolutely just be playing dumb with the "mafia doesn't have qt?" but that just seems stupid. People like him less because of this and it was totally unnecessary if he was scum.

I'm very unsure about both of them but VisceraEyes strikes me as more likely to be scum than kitaman27. If we can agree on Dirkzor's proposal that would be sweet.
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
February 22 2012 18:14 GMT
#367
On February 23 2012 03:03 Navillus wrote:
As I said the Vermont thing was something of an explanation but definitely not an excuse. If I'm being honest, I could have found a way to post, I could have used my smartphone when I had service (like half of the state doesn't have service) or slowed us down for ten minutes when we stopped at colleges and connected my laptop, and I probably would have if I were scum and knew that I was 1/3 of my team and really wanted to win my first scumgame, but I'm not so I didn't.


This isn't a legitimate argument. Let me break it down for you:

[image loading]
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
February 22 2012 18:22 GMT
#368
Okay, my school's filter got updated and included the TL forums (and the account to get around the filter got locked) so sorry about the delay.

@Nav, I just read your posts - I'm fairly convinced you're in the green and legitimately AFK (and also because I'm kinda guilty of this too)... but I'm sorry, can't include you due to space.

Blazinghand is definitely going on the team. All-around activity, constant opinions, didn't bandwagon on anything from the start of the game.

Prplhz's post after I got up (the one where he said who I should pick on his team) is absolute retardation. He says pick two people from a list of - the team I nayvoted, and him! Oh how nice!

I'm adding Viscera. He makes sense. Palmar, a guy who normally makes sense, is not making sense. Kita is still trying to sugarcoat his argument. Navillus just got back so I'm waiting for more (although I'm not convinced he's spy anymore). I like Chaos, he's probably fourth on my list but I only have space for three people. Dirkzor was looking good up until:

On February 23 2012 02:16 Dirkzor wrote:
Team: Me, Kita and Prp ?


No.

Team [UoN]Sentinel: [UoN]Sentinel, Blazinghand, VisceraEyes

Don't like it? Wait your turn.
Нас зовет дух отцов, память старых бойцов, дух Москвы и твердыня Полтавы
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
February 22 2012 18:30 GMT
#369
##Vote team [UoN]Sentinel: Yay
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
February 22 2012 18:34 GMT
#370
##Vote team [UoN]Sentinel: Yay
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Navillus
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1188 Posts
February 22 2012 18:36 GMT
#371
On February 23 2012 03:14 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2012 03:03 Navillus wrote:
As I said the Vermont thing was something of an explanation but definitely not an excuse. If I'm being honest, I could have found a way to post, I could have used my smartphone when I had service (like half of the state doesn't have service) or slowed us down for ten minutes when we stopped at colleges and connected my laptop, and I probably would have if I were scum and knew that I was 1/3 of my team and really wanted to win my first scumgame, but I'm not so I didn't.


This isn't a legitimate argument. Let me break it down for you:

[image loading]


This isn't an argument period. Let me break it down for you:

[image loading]

So as you can see in the above diagram, what you did is not actually an argument, I cannot respond to things that aren't arguments in the first place, tell me why it doesn't hold water and we can talk.

Also, ##Vote team [UoN]Sentinel: Nay

Per the reasoning in my big post up on this page, the odds that all 3 of you are town when I have fairly solid town reads on 2 or 3 other people are slim to none.
"TL gives excellent advice 99% of the time. The problem is no one listens to it." -Plexa
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
February 22 2012 18:38 GMT
#372
Things Navillus has done so far in this thread: Assert that he is town, nayvote a team with the three towniest towns
Things Navillus has not done so far: Be useful, submit a team, vote yay on a team including himself, vote nay on a team including himself.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
February 22 2012 18:42 GMT
#373
Ok, rather more reasonably, let me ask you a question. You say it's statistically improbably that VE Sent and I are all town, since you have 3 town reads elsewhere. Why not just say who you think is scum and who you think is town, and stop beating around the bush?
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
February 22 2012 18:43 GMT
#374
I'm actually starting to think Navi is town, but unfortunately Palmar has him all aflutter by picking him, and there's no comparing with that. *shrug*

Hopefully out of the 6 not on Palmar's team there are going to be 5 that see the merit of the team put forth.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Navillus
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1188 Posts
February 22 2012 18:47 GMT
#375
Blazing I'm not beating around the bush, I already posted it... Me, Dirkzor, and MAYBE Palmar, Palmar I have a much weaker read on but choosing none of them makes it pretty likely in my eyes that there will be scum on the team.
"TL gives excellent advice 99% of the time. The problem is no one listens to it." -Plexa
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
February 22 2012 18:50 GMT
#376
On February 23 2012 03:47 Navillus wrote:
Blazing I'm not beating around the bush, I already posted it... Me, Dirkzor, and MAYBE Palmar, Palmar I have a much weaker read on but choosing none of them makes it pretty likely in my eyes that there will be scum on the team.


You have no reads on the other 6 players in the game? And you are aware that at the time Palmar chose your for his team he had no business doing so and was setting you up to be a fall guy right
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Navillus
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1188 Posts
February 22 2012 19:09 GMT
#377
In response to asking about my reads, after looking through the thread some more I do like the 3 people on this team individually, but me voting for them would then mean I'm basically betting on me being correct about all 3 scum and I'm just not confident enough to do that. I would probably yay this team if you were switched BH, I don't have much of a scumread on you but I do have stronger townreads in me (ofc) and Dirkz and getting the most sure town in this game is what's important.
"TL gives excellent advice 99% of the time. The problem is no one listens to it." -Plexa
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
February 22 2012 19:22 GMT
#378
The current team is Team [UoN]Sentinel: [UoN]Sentinel, Blazinghand, VisceraEyes

The current deadline to vote on Team [UoN]Sentinel is 23 hours from now, 19:00 GMT (+00:00), or 24 february 04:00 KST.
:3
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
February 22 2012 19:40 GMT
#379
nayvoting because of scum.
Computer says mafia
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
February 22 2012 20:32 GMT
#380
On February 23 2012 04:40 Palmar wrote:
nayvoting because of scum.


Raise your hand if you're surprised! *doesn't raise hand because isn't surprised*
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
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