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On February 08 2012 06:39 zeurg wrote: I guess I'll give it a go. First mafia game though, so if that is going to be a problem, you can just not sign me up. /in Hi there smurf. | ||
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But any accounts created on the day they sign up for mafia with 1 single post look like they could be smurfs to me. I hope I didn't offend anyone? | ||
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On February 08 2012 10:06 Probulous wrote: Finally, to those signing up, please can we have a civil game! Arkham City and the GM Mini are so full of angry people. Doubtful. Eventually someone will do something stupid, and I'll be forced to explain why they're being stupid. | ||
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Old man. | ||
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Here you go: http://webchat.quakenet.org/?channels=WHOLETTHEDOGSOUT&uio=d4 This is my house. No scum allowed. Let's talk in there. In addition I only fully trust people I can confirm through logs. you can also add me on skype: palmargard My name on IRC is Palmar. I will at all times be authed as Palmar. Don't get owned by nerds. | ||
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On February 13 2012 17:51 Lanaia wrote: Palmar, is there a reason you want sinani dead? How do you feel about paperscraps thus far? Paperscraps came on IRC and talked to me. That's towny. sinani is being useless, not that he doesn't do that as town too. But he will come under suspicion at one point another in the game. Might as well vigi him now. It increases town's chance of winning even when he's town. | ||
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http://www.palmar.org/mafia This includes all the logs from the #WHOLETTHEDOGSOUT channel, sorted by days. In addition, there is a search function (I spent 5 minutes on this, so it's very raw) under the /search folder where you can punch in a playername (or anything... really) and it'll print every line from all the log files that includes whatever you put in. I haven't done anything to format it yet though. Might do it if there's little to do at work. | ||
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Why? Because it's hard to maintain fake claims? | ||
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On February 13 2012 21:50 Mattchew wrote: because in no way shape or form are you confirmed town Bitch please... Scum. | ||
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If I die tonight, you need to hang the fuck out of prplhz. | ||
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Blazinghand tried to hint at being a veteran to me yesterday. + Show Spoiler + [13.2.2012 05:19:55] Noah Azarin: hey if you've got a moment, is there a way to get webIRC to not like [13.2.2012 05:20:00] Noah Azarin: show what rooms you're in [13.2.2012 05:20:06] Noah Azarin: or do I need to get a desktop client [13.2.2012 08:23:37] Palmar: no idea I don't use webirc [13.2.2012 08:23:42] Palmar: just get a client  [13.2.2012 08:23:48] Noah Azarin: ok [13.2.2012 08:54:13] Noah Azarin: btw i'm usually this dumb/cocky but thank you [13.2.2012 08:55:29] Palmar: yes [13.2.2012 08:55:33] Palmar: that's what I meant [13.2.2012 08:55:47] Noah Azarin: ok [13.2.2012 08:55:51] Palmar: are you implying your alignment isn't the same as usual? [13.2.2012 08:55:59] Noah Azarin: um no [13.2.2012 08:56:10] Noah Azarin: i'm just noting that any meta read based on me being cocky [13.2.2012 08:56:14] Noah Azarin: is going to be wrong [13.2.2012 08:56:26] Palmar: because if it was, why would you have to point out that you usually are, when that's obviously the premise for my assumption [13.2.2012 08:56:37] Noah Azarin: wat [13.2.2012 08:56:44] Noah Azarin: man i'm just helping a brotha out [13.2.2012 08:56:50] Palmar: I called you town, based on the fact that you're being dumb and cocky [13.2.2012 08:56:57] Noah Azarin: right and i'm noting [13.2.2012 08:57:02] Palmar: if you were scum, I'd expect you to deviate that [13.2.2012 08:57:03] Noah Azarin: i'm always dumb and cocky [13.2.2012 08:57:06] Palmar: deviate from that* [13.2.2012 08:57:08] Palmar: eys [13.2.2012 08:57:11] Palmar: even as scum? [13.2.2012 08:57:16] Noah Azarin: I've never been scum [13.2.2012 08:57:18] Noah Azarin: I don't know [13.2.2012 08:57:21] Noah Azarin: but if I were scum [13.2.2012 08:57:21] Palmar: exactly [13.2.2012 08:57:23] Noah Azarin: I'd be dumb and cocky [13.2.2012 08:57:27] Noah Azarin: because otherwise [13.2.2012 08:57:28] Palmar: it's actually impossible to play scum like you play town [13.2.2012 08:57:34] Noah Azarin: well yeah ok [13.2.2012 08:57:35] Palmar: unless your town play is terrible [13.2.2012 08:57:35] Noah Azarin: I'd TRY [13.2.2012 08:57:39] Noah Azarin: to be dumb and cocky [13.2.2012 08:57:45] Noah Azarin: well, LOOK dumb and cocky [13.2.2012 08:57:47] Palmar: lol [13.2.2012 08:57:52] Palmar: whatever [13.2.2012 08:58:04] Noah Azarin: btw hypothetically [13.2.2012 08:58:06] Noah Azarin: if you were a vet [13.2.2012 08:58:12] Noah Azarin: would it be good to try to fish for a shot N0 [13.2.2012 08:58:23] Palmar: only by doing smart stuff [13.2.2012 08:58:26] Palmar: (like scumhunting [13.2.2012 08:58:31] Noah Azarin: ah, okay. [13.2.2012 08:58:36] Palmar: not by doing dumb stuff (like roleclaiming DT or something) [13.2.2012 08:58:54] Noah Azarin: makes sense. I am not a vet. Anyway, I'll post what I have to say later. | ||
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What do you think about that? | ||
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I'm not sure what to make of sinani206's refusal to form an opinion. He knows and is fully aware he's denying the chance to form a read on him. I'm not sure if he's playing stubborn and stupid townie, or if he's using that to hide he's scum. @Kenpachi, stop lurking or I'll hang you. | ||
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On February 15 2012 09:13 sinani206 wrote: townie lists are bad i honestly dont care if you think im scummy because no one else does This post serves no purpose in the thread. It's not even correct, while lacking any reasoning these lists aren't terribly useful, they at least give me an idea of how the player posting them is approaching the game. On February 15 2012 09:54 sinani206 wrote: i'd rather not hide any facts. i don't have any opinions. Normally when townies are cocky it's because they think they're right, but sinani is actually being cocky without even attempting to be right. Like being cocky isn't a scumtell in itself, because usually it's townies that are assholes. But the way in which sinani is doing it is very scummy. The fact is, it's now very late in the day because of the strange deadline. And sinani has shown no interest in the game at all. The way in which he has shown and described complete disinterest in the game makes him very likely to flip scum. I suggest we make him at least one of our kills for today. ##Vote sinani206 | ||
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His best defense is actually meta, because yes, there have been games where he's been completely and utterly useless as town. It just seems to me that in those games (look at steamship), there were reasons to believe he's town even with how useless he is. | ||
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On February 16 2012 14:00 sinani206 wrote: I'm voting for phagga because he's mafia. He's only analyzed "easy" targets so far, me and Kenpachi, and is pretending to contribute by making these his main posts, when either everyone else has already said something similar or it unnecessary for him to say it. This play is very scummy, and enough to earn a Day 1 vote. ##Vote: phagga Do you have any further interest in playing this game? Have you read through the IRC logs? What do you think of the people there. Do you agree with my sentiment that it's less likely scum would be active in instant communication channels? | ||
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I guess spiritclown would be my primary choice for a secondary candidate. In addition, we need to consolidate our votes on two people. | ||
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Just vote me or something. | ||
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4. You may vote for yourself. You may vote for anyone dead or outside the game; BUT IT WILL HAVE CONSEQUENCES. | ||
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On February 16 2012 22:27 froggynoddy wrote: Why??? + Show Spoiler + Vote count as of 9:20 PM KST (2 Hours and 40 minutes to deadline) 6 Votes: Spiritclown - Mattchew, ghost_403, Paperscraps, Grackaroni, prplhz, froggynoddy 5 Votes: sinani206 - rgTheSchworz, Lanaia, Palmar, phagga, Bluelightz 2 Votes: phagga - Kenpachi, sinani206 1 Vote: [UoN]Sentinel - Probulous zeurg - [UoN]Sentinel NOT VOTED Spiritclown, Hufy, zeurg, mderg Please PM your Night Actions/Orders before the deadline. This makes things difficult. As I was posting we needed votes on SC to double lynch. Spirit Clown is yet to vote. If I take off my vote, he can vote for Sinani and save himself. Unless you guys have worked it out better than I have I will keep my vote on him, as his best chance is to vote for sinani and convince others to do so also. If he does and they don't, we have a double lynch, if he votes on random 3rd party, then he could be protecting Sinani, which at least gives us something to work with. If this happens, our vigilantes will know exactly what to do. | ||
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seriously, I'm reporting sinani for playing against his win condition. | ||
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6. Voting is mandatory. You may NOT abstain. If even one of those people are scum, this game is bullshit because they just got away from a day without doing anything. That's blatantly cheating. | ||
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Paperscraps is in my eyes basically confirmed town. Probulous is playing the most pro-town game of anyone here. froggynoddy is almost definitely town given his play in both thread and IRC on day one. bluelightz responded completely incorrectly to my pressure in the thread, but he seems to have done it in a very towny way. rgTS is a troll, but meh, he's probably town grackaroni is very towny based on his reactions to my pressure on day one. prplhz seems to be putting the effort into this game now that I'd expect him to. I'm least certain on him on this list. So, what is left is to find the scum in the following. phagga, sentinel, nisani, ghost, lanaia, mderg And I mean... we have probably at least 4-6 scum left, so fuck it. Just lynch into this list. If we have vigis, might as well shoot into it too, because why not. Chances of hitting scum are ridiculously high. gg no re | ||
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@mderg: There's nothing wrong with the attitude. I am confident enough in my reads to actually think they're correct. With so many scum in the game, it's really a luxury how many people have made their alignment quite clear in my opinion. For some reason though, nisani is straight up calling a ton of my town reads wrong, and there seems to be no apparent reason for it except to sow distrust. Unless of course, you're just scum looking for an excuse for trying to get me killed, by all means vote for me then. | ||
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On February 19 2012 01:14 ghost_403 wrote: Damn. And I was so sure prplhz was scum. Palmar, i want to talk to you when I get back. Posted from my droid. I don't talk to scum | ||
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ghost's position and interest in the game seems to have changed quite a bit since last night, but it seems to have done it in a towny way. rgTS seems perfectly happy with just floating along without really doing anything after people got an initial town read on him. In addition I see him very rarely in IRC or just caring about the game at all. I'm considering putting my vote on him, but I need to catch up on whatever happened since the lynch before I make my decision. | ||
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On February 20 2012 16:38 rgTheSchworz wrote: @Town I have been useless.Full stop. That doesnt mean I cant do something productive with my vote. Such as ##vote: Bluelightz. First, cut out the townie lists, I dont wanna know who you town based on ,,He´s acting townie´´ and meta. I remember someone told you to do that. This ticks me off. Big time. One, you are useless. You have basically quoted ghost s entire filter, then wrote what? 3 lines telling how half the posts are useless. Then shifting to Prplhz.Now, Prplhz was town because he was acting too scummy to be scum. I´m sure that I did mention it somewhere on IRC.You tried to revive suspicions on prplhz, and he CLEARLY didnt want to touch the matter again because: 1.It would be unproductive. 2.What could you deduce out of that list?I seriously think nothing. Scum would be inclined to PM newbies, but town also because they are more likely to slip. My point is: Your posts have no goal behind them, you sheep and vote because a person has been useless, not scum.IMO, in this game there hasnt been anyone who lurks in plain sight except maybe you and Kenpachi. So, moot point. I wont be here at deadlin so my vote stays. I This is completely invalid. Sure it makes Bluelightz an... eccentric player, he doesn't play optimally, but it's very unlikely it makes him scum. I think you're looking for an easy lynch. I think however that since I said I leaned town on you, you've basically considered yourself getting a free pass through the game. I think we need to lynch you. | ||
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<froggynoddy> mderg seems to be big sheep <froggynoddy> particularly as he seemed to be attacking Palmar earlier, now he seems to be sheeping him <Bluelightz> Lol most of the sheep just vote like this, "I am voting rgTh [insert small explanation]" <Palmar> yes <Palmar> like <Palmar> can we just <Palmar> triple lynch <Palmar> lol <Palmar> fuck it <Bluelightz> lol <Bluelightz> lmao! <Palmar> really sucks we seem to have no vigilantes <froggynoddy> that does seem odd <Bluelightz> Theres always traits though <froggynoddy> is that normal in mafia? <Bluelightz> Yes <Bluelightz> But there should be many DTs etc o_o <Palmar> yeah <Palmar> prplhz was a dt <Palmar> no useful info though <Palmar> it seems <Bluelightz>  <Bluelightz> no crumbs? <Palmar> well <Palmar> he backed off ghost <Palmar> but that was within a day <Bluelightz> True <Palmar> he thought I was scum and backed off me <Palmar> but meh <Bluelightz> meh <phagga> prplhz was a spy, not a dt <phagga> not exactly the same <phagga> from the original post: <phagga> If a player has the Spy trait, he will have the ability to spy on another player, revealing clues to the role and/or traits of that player, but never the role or trait itself. Some clues may be useless, others not. <Palmar> should we try and double lynch <Palmar> not like I want to keep mderg around <Palmar> I never read the OPs phagga <phagga> that's why i posted the description here, Palmar <Palmar> haha <Palmar> ty <phagga> I remember you sayning that somewhere in the thread <Palmar> that's why I prefer pm games <Palmar> what's the current vote-count? <Palmar> can we like? <Palmar> lynch them both? <phagga> mderg 2, rg 6 <Palmar> so if bluelightz <phagga> bluelights 1 and ghost has not voted, makes 10 <froggynoddy> I'm fine with swapping on mderg <Palmar> ok <Palmar> me and froggy do it <Bluelightz> wait <Bluelightz> ... <Bluelightz> what <Bluelightz> ? <Palmar> double lynch <Palmar> do you not like us killing mderg? <froggynoddy> actyaully <Bluelightz> Nah just confused <Bluelightz> :3 <froggynoddy> am a bit concerned myself <Bluelightz> hmm? <Palmar> I don't know, I have no reason to believe mderg flips town <Bluelightz> believe wat? <froggynoddy> Palmar can you explain again the justifications of double lynch <Bluelightz> But if ghost comes in the double lycnh is ruined <Bluelightz> =_+ <Palmar> it's more KP in the hands of town froggynoddy <froggynoddy> but we've been pretty shit on the double lynching so far <Palmar> yes <Palmar> but that doesnt' meant you should stop playing optimally <froggynoddy> I think double lynching on decent amount of evidence is good <Palmar> and well.. we've lynched useless terribads so far <Palmar> nisani and sinani and such <Bluelightz> rue dat <Bluelightz> True* <froggynoddy> i dont think (in my admittedly inexperienced opinion) that lynching for the sake of lynching is good <Palmar> mafia scum kp has less chance of hitting scum, than town lynches <froggynoddy> true <Palmar> it is good, unless you expect to generate more information from the time we buy by giving scum more KP <Palmar> like the information better become available <Palmar> and judging by thread activity and such <Palmar> I don't see a reason to expect we will gain much additional information by stalling <Palmar> I think we already have most of what we need to finish the game <froggynoddy> ... <froggynoddy> I don't know man <Palmar> I mean, I can understand if we have like 3 dts alive <Palmar> I just doubt that <Palmar> I made a huge argument about this in some game <Palmar> or well that was about vigilantes hitting every night if they could <Palmar> but same deal <Palmar> statistically, you want as many kills in the game to be controlled by town as possible <Palmar> the only exception, is if you think you can stall the game, in order to gain information to increase your accuracy <Palmar> At present, I have no faith that we will be generating much more information this game <Palmar> like, thread has been pretty stagnant for a while <phagga> Palmar, are you aware of the apprentice role? <Palmar> what's that? <phagga> the apprentice does not know he is it, but when he gets checked, and the checker dies later on, he takes on his role <froggynoddy> ok, Palmar. It makes sense, mderg isnot adding anything to the game. I'll go with double lynch <phagga> so, if probulous checked the apprentice, red team has a new godfather <Palmar> oh right <Palmar> wait what? <Palmar> how does that eve work <phagga> but I don't know if that got implemented <Palmar> how is that balanced | ||
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ghost just vote someone else. Anyone who last minute switches will be policy lynched tomorrow. | ||
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paperscraps bluelightz palmar ghost_403 froggynoddy phagga These people remain. It's very likely the red team is dead, so the black team remains. I think it's pretty clear the scum are ghost and phagga. | ||
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Paperscraps claimed to me right away on day 1. That's the reason I've been basically calling him confirmed town since then. | ||
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I told paper to check grackaroni, and he meant to change it. But apparently he didn't do it correctly or something so Ciryandor didn't count the change. So, with no information out of Paper's tests, I told him to claim, and we decided to try to fake-guilty on phagga just to see how he would react. That's irrelevant though, because a few moments later Ciryandor asked Paper to check his pms, and paper did, only to find out he had not changed hist check from ghost to grack correctly, and thus had checked ghost yesterday. Paperscraps has a guilty result on ghost_403 I suggest we single lynch him today, and have paper check phagga.. | ||
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On February 06 2012 19:39 Ciryandor wrote: The Roles & Traits ROLES TL Forumer (Townie): Vanilla TL Forumer, likes Starcraft overall, watches their regular fill of games via streams or live Forum Moderator (Detective): The Moderator has the ability to check once a night to see if they are undesirable werewolves (Scum) or an Apprentice. Every other role will appear as a regular Forumer (Townie). Rabid Werewolves (Scum): They are people attracted to TeamLiquid for the massive pool of pool of less-than-fit people they can easily turn into chew toys. More information will be given to the scum but will not be public knowledge. Note that only the above roles are guaranteed to be in a game (i.e. 1+ exists of each role above, 0+ exists of each role below). There is guaranteed to be at elast one DT in the game. When Paper claimed, froggy, me, phagga and ghost were all on IRC So any of us should have counterclaimed immediately. With no counterclaims, paperscraps is guaranteed to be the DT, and his check on ghost is good. | ||
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