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On February 07 2012 23:02 BaronFel wrote:
After looking through Nisani201's filter, I think he's rather suspicious (short posts, didn't explain his decisions much). He's probably my main suspect at this point.

Mderg seems like a townie to me, or at least rather logical.

EchelonTee is rather aggressive, but I don't think that makes him more suspicious than Nisani201 at this point.

gotta go to work, but I'll be back later tonight

On February 09 2012 08:09 prplhz wrote:
@Bluelightz Who do you want to lynch? Like, can you actually write a name in red or something all this green/black stuff is not helping anybody. By not having an opinion you make it easier for scum not to have an opinion either which is bad. We want their opinions so we can hold them up against them later if they start becoming irrational.

@Nisan201 Why don't you make any sense at all?

Things you've said that do not make sense in my brain:
1: prplhz is a good scumhunter. I doubt you believe this because it's not true. I'm like maybe mid gold league and I've never played well in any game you've been in and I've never seen you in any observer QT.
2: You have not been vocal or decided to have any thread presence because 1, yet you don't really act like you truly believe 1. You didn't support me in ANYTHING this whole game. I would actually have pushed you day2 but I thought it would be weird to shoot sinani206 and then push Nisani201. No idea where I got this idea from.
3: You only ever do anything when called out. Your cases on BaronFel and [UoN]Sentinel are like, meh, you could have pushed those at any point in this game because they took you maybe 2 minutes to write up. I've seen you do a lot better but in this game you don't seem to really give a damn.

And can't you at least make up some bullshit reason for not giving us sinani201? He was so obvious and you've played with him more and know him better than anybody else here. I had to read through of his games (I didn't count SEVEN FUCKING TEEN by the way) night1 but you were in all those, why didn't you give us sinani201?

On February 02 2012 15:41 Sinensis wrote:
A day 1 lynch in theory has a 25% chance of killing an enemy of the emperor at random with the numbers we have. The problem a day 1 lynch proposes is who to lynch? Further, who decides who to lynch?

The alternative is not killing the first night while the Chaos scum are allowed time to get comfortable. Will they try to kill in the night? Why wouldn't they? Odds are they'll do terrible terrible damage. Even if they don't they'll have time to fortify and strike twice tomorrow night. Our situation is grim no matter how you look at it, so lets talk choices while we can still make them.

The first decision we need to make is if we're going to kill on the first night, lets take this one step at a time. Please post whether you think we should lynch tonight or not and why.

I'll tell you what I think, it involves a plan and is OBVIOUSLY up for debate/criticism/modification:

We should kill the first night, and I should say who dies. Day 1 in a unique time because no one not you, me, or the Chaos scum knows who anyone else is yet. Anyone's guess is as good as random, and random buys us exactly 25% right now. Since our odds are only going to get worse from here, I say we take them. I will use a random number generator to decide which of this crew is executed.

If you agree with me say so, if you disagree I want to hear why... this will at the very least spur juicy discussion to comb,

On February 02 2012 20:31 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:


I'm sold.

##Vote: Sinensis

On February 03 2012 05:45 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
I'm back.

I have a history of voting for people who fluff. My primary reason being that they're derailing the discussion and possibly doing it on behalf of scumteam, but also because, at least in the beginning, these are the kind of people impeding progress anyway.

Like if there's 7 of us left with 2 mafia and 5 towns, I wouldn't advocate a lynch like that because we need all the votes and information we can get to lynch the right people, as if we lynch a random townie we won't get his power (if blue) and the next day it's 3 townies and 2 mafia left. lynch or lose that day, then the next there's 2 towns and 1 mafia, another lynch or lose.

Right now however it's not that drastic. It's 9 on 3. Best case scenario we lynch the right person, mafia kills one of us and it's 8 on 2. Much more favorable odds. Even better if the doc manages to bring that up to 9 on 2.

Worst case scenario it's 7 on 3, townie lynched and townie shot. This is pretty bad, but unless we lynch the vigilante then we can still pull out with a well-placed bullet. I don't like this scenario, but accidents do happen.

Pretty much every plan I can think of in my semi-awake state gets blocked by that damn hedonist. I think I'll take a nap and then get back to this.

On February 03 2012 09:48 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:


Woke up. I thought I would be guillotined by this time but apparently so far nobody else has voted for me.

Voting because someone else said so is not a good policy. You should at least justify why you think his is the only reasonable evidence when I clearly addressed and refuted his every point.

Sinensis is turning slightly greener for me, but your actions thus far have just been a giant WTF for me. So until then,

##Vote: Timeaisis

On February 04 2012 06:01 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:


That's a little something called "school". I woke up and went there today.



I'm sorry, what is this? If everyone else suspected me sans the three of us and Echelon, that would be 8 votes on me. I'd be dead. There are only 5 votes on me which means that 7 people think I'm either innocent or not important enough to be lynched.

This is why I feel like I have a more legitimate beef - when I voted, I pointed out exactly which part made me suspicious. You on the other hand went "herp derp that guy voted for Sentinel so I'm voting for Sentinel". I might have bandwagoned but at least I gave a little bit of evidence (the paragraph I quoted) while you gave absolutely zero other than some other guy voted for him. I don't even understand why I'm getting all these votes as a result of this.



"Sentinel, the one who was bandwagoned second.

Then soon after that FoS, a shitload of lynches, an interesting post by prplhz and EchelonTree, probably because everyone thinks we're stirring up trouble when really these votes are unjustified in such numbers."



And you voted me for going to school.



Why are you only suspecting us three when at least time warrants suspicion?



Bandwagon is jumping onto a conclusion with little to no original evidence. I had little, timeaisis had no. This is the central topic of this discussion. Everyone understands the word in this game as approximately that definition, so there is no problem.



50 bucks says that if there's a hedonist he'll taint me.

If there isn't a hedonist and we somehow can confirm this, 50 bucks people will think there's a hedonist because I'm listed as "Not Tainted" and some people can't get it into their heads that I. Am. Not. A. Scum.

And before people say I'm going silent again, this is my game plan:

It is now 4:00 EST. Between 4:25 EST and 8:30 EST I will be busy due to swim practice. So if anybody's wondering why I'm lurking, here's your answer.

On February 05 2012 13:24 Sinensis wrote:
##Vote: prplhz

BAAWW I DIDN'T SPEND ENOUGH TIME EXPLAINING MY VOTE. Cry me a fucking river scum. I've suspected this joker since his first post.

On February 05 2012 13:37 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
##Vote: Sinensis

There is also another post that I find interesting. Here it is.
Voting for this idiot.

On February 05 2012 13:05 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Sinensis, pretty much everything you've said up to this point incriminates me, Bluelightz, and prplhz. Now that prplhz is confirmed townie, and I'm fairly in the green, what have you to say?

On February 05 2012 14:11 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
I have my final defense ready if it comes to that today.

On February 08 2012 20:04 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:


This is the "reasoning" that Nisani has. This is all of it.

I've explained my reasoning before, so you're either ignoring it or you haven't read the thread. Both are anti-town.

His posts are generally one-liners, mostly to do with lynching me. If I didn't know better, I'd say he was an executioner.

Executioner does not exist, however. I'm guessing the last two scum are Fatespinner and Goon, but no way to be certain. Now for my usual line-by-line defense.



Did you say actively misleading? Timeaisis (peace be upon him) and Sinensis might have been townies, but they had extremely scummy gameplay and it was only logical to assume they were scums. Many people had mountains of evidence piling against at least one of them, unlike your one liners which really, really, really, want to get me guillotined.

You lead the case against Timeaisis and you didn't like Sinesis. Stop trying to justify those lynches.



Oh god... bandwagon voting again? But that brings up a good point. BaronFel has 10 posts. TEN of them. That's 1 /in post and 9 short posts where I learned nothing new because someone already said most of those things. Here's a little something something from BaronFel

BaronFel isn't mentioned anywhere in this post.



Can't find any other justification in his filter for lynching Timeaisis (peace be upon him) other than those 2 sentences. He was riding Sinensis up until the Timeaisis train got rolling, and then suddenly it's "whoops I think I'll vote for him instead!"

Then he switches to Sinensis after THAT train gets rolling, getting two townies out of the way.

Of course he might be busy. But generally he's been posting only when someone says "BaronFel is lurking, I'm thinking of voting him because he's suspicious" he half-asses an argument to get us off of his back, life goes on. As much as I'd love to see Nisani lynched, the fact of the matter is that a mislynch today will bring us to a LyLo scenario tomorrow. It will be 3 on 2.

Resulting in ##Vote: BaronFel

The last good part of the analysis. I quite like that you're attacking BaronFel. It will make for good WIFOM when you flip red.

On February 10 2012 03:43 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
@Nisani you've been promising to write your analysis for maybe 2 days now? Where is this magic analysis?

Until then, to accelerate the process,

##Vote: Nisani201

On February 11 2012 12:57 Bluelightz wrote:
This is LYLO! T_T 2-4 mafia get a night kill we lose T_T

On February 14 2012 03:44 TheToast wrote:


Would just give mafia the chance to snipe who ever has the best arguments and give them the chance to drag this out longer.