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On February 10 2012 03:05 Katina wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2012 02:04 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
Well, just woke up.
Been working pretty much all day yesterday and sleeping twice. Sorry I haven't gotten to post much. Seems a lot has went down in the Mason Network. First off Radfields lying or I'm a miller. I can't think of a great reason why he would though. Like, if I die and flip green then town kills him, and I don't think he was under that much pressure.
I'm guessing maybe mafia has a "janitor" roll or something that allows my flip not to be shown? Or a Framer roll where they can frame me as red a turn. Either way, I know I'll flip green. We're wasting a lynch here. So the options as I see them are :
1. Radfield is mafia and you'll kill him after I flip green.
2. There is a mafia "Framer" someone who changes my appearance to DT's.
3. I'm a "Miller".
I'm not mafia. You should find it weird that neither Palmar nor Radfield have talked about these possibilities at all. They are both veterans and should know that these are options. I think mafia are sitting laughing right now because when I flip Miller you'll be confused.
I will say though that there really isn't any way for me to prove it and town will gain the most information I think from lynching me. You'll find out that I'm not actually red and can go after those who have bandwagoned me here. Second day in a row that I'm just getting nearly every vote on me. Take care of who starts these and who blindly follows along. I'll still be spending today looking for scum and trying to help out as I can. There you go again. Same as day one, the votes start coming in then you quickly jump up to defend yourself...again. Where have you been this whole time? It's about time people start seeing that you should be lynched. You haven't been very useful helping find scum since the begining so why start now? Maybe because people shifted their attention back on you? As for me going missing under a rock? It's actually cozy and warm there, it also makes for a good spot to read the millions of posts I missed while I was sleeping.
There's almost no reason to deal with Sheth until he is lynched. I don't think he'll make too much noise though. Try lynching Coagulation when he's mafia that's a real shitstorm.
Sheth saying he might be a miller is the same as claiming VT. This is a weak ass defense. "If I die and flip not mafia, then i wasn't mafia" is about the jist of this garbage.
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Toades might be on to the same thing I am but I find it quite likely that a lot of players are pretending to totally get the connection with me and him when they don't and are just scum trying to gain town cred off of this.
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On February 10 2012 02:02 ico wrote:
Answer me this, why would a town aligned Toad and a town aligned DrH spam so damn much?
never played with me eh?
in every game i play regardless of alignment i'm the #1 poster usually by a margin about 40-50 posts i think one time i got counted at like 99 when the second postingest player was at like 42 in insane mafia or something? it's a bad bad bad habit that can be chalked up to me having nothing better to do. I try to work on it and don't have much success.
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OpZ all you did was repeat the same case I made twice. So far it seems like that's your only contribution to this thread as it is. why are you so fucking this game you were way better than this in that TF2 mafia
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On February 10 2012 18:04 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2012 09:08 Radfield wrote:On February 10 2012 07:58 wherebugsgo wrote:
kk lab in 2 minutes:
ask me any questions you want answered from someone who actually knows what he's saying.
I haven't read like 20 pages (something like 60 to 80 or whatever was added to the thread since I went to sleep/class.)
After lab/study group tonight I'll be back to answer stuff. For the meantime, please kill Kurumi. Also Sheth is dumb town; this bandwagon is insane. On February 10 2012 08:00 wherebugsgo wrote:
also RG is clearly not reading the thread because Dr H fucking claimed clayface and he said clayface hasn't claimed yet -_-
indicates RG is either scum or third party; more likely to be third party actually because I don't think he'd have the balls to fake claim a check So you're obviously not reading the thread either WBG. Therefore you must be either scum or third party yes? like seriously, the hell is this you KNOW my intention in saying that was that I actually am making an effort to read the thread, while rg is not. I don't believe your claim for a second and I will honestly be incredibly surprised if Sheth flips scum. And yes, I realize I will look like a total fucking moron if Sheth actually does flip scum.
rG is pretty clearly talking about a counterclaim. You're reading so hard into nothing and grasping at straws, it's doesn't look good it looks desperate. Why are you on a bender right now when we already have the best possible lynch? If you have a case make it well at the end of the night in case you die, you're not helping anyone by spamming and getting upset.
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On February 10 2012 18:29 Palmar wrote:
In addition bugs. As I've explained, there is a reason to believe Radfield did DT check Sheth and there is no reason to believe he's not telling the truth about the result.
Radfield lying about the result makes no sense no matter his alignment. And seeing as Radfield is confirmed as 3rd party (through my shot), it would indeed be counter-productive for him to lie, and likely get hanged.
I don't think you're reading the thread. I think you're raging for no reason at all. Why are you doing it?
he hasn't done anything good as town and isn't he terrible as scum ?
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On February 10 2012 18:46 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2012 18:43 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On February 10 2012 18:29 Palmar wrote:
In addition bugs. As I've explained, there is a reason to believe Radfield did DT check Sheth and there is no reason to believe he's not telling the truth about the result.
Radfield lying about the result makes no sense no matter his alignment. And seeing as Radfield is confirmed as 3rd party (through my shot), it would indeed be counter-productive for him to lie, and likely get hanged.
I don't think you're reading the thread. I think you're raging for no reason at all. Why are you doing it? he hasn't done anything good as town and isn't he terrible as scum ? Bugs is very good scum. Like most people I'd have written off as town by now because his frustration seems kinda genuine. But he could easily pull this off. It's his town play that sucks. If a good townie had the reads he has I'd immediately conclude he's scum purely based on trying to push stupid lynches. So, for now, I'm using the ignore and hope it goes away approach. We're lynching sheth, even with the chance he'll flip miller it's the correct play to do it. There are very few people in this game I would not lynch on a DT check on day2 from a person I am 100% sure has the ability to DT check, and has no reason to lie about it.
Oh, I don't know his meta I only played with him for like half of one day cycle. I remember you saying this but I got it mixed up.
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On February 11 2012 01:38 Kurumi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2012 01:29 rgTheSchworz wrote:
Apart from Toad being Poison Ivy, and DocH claiming Clayface, I dont ,,understand,, the Doc/Toad relationship.
Seems Doc is a temporary shield for Toad or Toad s a vet himself.
Wrong
Why do you care rG? I'm Clayface, hired by another named player in the game. You don't have to understand anything beyond that.
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On February 11 2012 01:44 rgTheSchworz wrote:
A medic protected me.
What is CC?
A medic can't block Catwoman.
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Toadesstern could be Catwoman I guess, but the person who hired Clayface only has to say so to me and I'll know who they are. Toadesstern is treading a pretty thin line by claiming to be that person.
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On February 11 2012 01:52 rgTheSchworz wrote:
And even if I m not Two-Face, the real Two-face wouldnt counter-claim me.
He would be so exposed to CW.
Why the fuck did you push me so hard as a liar then back off now? What made you that confident as a "pro-town" player to paint me red with a fake ass check. How in 10000000000 years is this pro-town behavior?
No one trusts you, so you're backing off despite no CC. I sense inherent guilt.
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On February 11 2012 01:54 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2012 01:52 rgTheSchworz wrote:
And even if I m not Two-Face, the real Two-face wouldnt counter-claim me.
He would be so exposed to CW. nono, the real Two-Face is immortal! :p
Do you think it's the case with all 3?
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I'm sorry, what makes sense about announcing fake results that I'm mafia and then kept trying to push a case on FAKE CHECK
That's not a town move. It's not. It's not town to say "I don't care if I get lynched cause I can still win." So can scum. You would care about a wasted lynch if you want to win as town. You can't just say "Yeah I got this, it makes sense" when it doesn't make sense to anyone except you.
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On February 11 2012 02:00 Kurumi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2012 01:59 rgTheSchworz wrote:
My play does make sense.
I m also town.
Don t g too far with assumptions I believe You're town, because You'd be dead other way.
lol
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Medics get off me ASAP. Toad doesn t understand I ll be catfood tonight.
When I flip, please lynch this liar= DocH.
So, the check should be real. However, you can just ignore it, Rad s check hasn t been scoffed at as was mine.
We´re lynching only one guy today, anyways.
I also must remind myself to post some thoughts as soon as I catch up with the thread and figure out Toad´s role
Why didn't you back off sooner? That's what I don't understand. You're just trying to get people to "react"? And this helps you hunt scum how exactly?
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On February 11 2012 02:05 Kurumi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2012 02:01 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
I'm sorry, what makes sense about announcing fake results that I'm mafia and then kept trying to push a case on FAKE CHECK
That's not a town move. It's not. It's not town to say "I don't care if I get lynched cause I can still win." So can scum. You would care about a wasted lynch if you want to win as town. You can't just say "Yeah I got this, it makes sense" when it doesn't make sense to anyone except you. Schworz must be town. Look at Catwoman role description. Then look at Schworz claiming being hit. Then add up things like: -He'd be dead if he wasn't one of vets or Poison Ivy -Since he's alive, he must be one of the vets or Poison Ivy -Since he was trying to get hits on him, and he got info about being hit, he's most likely vet. -CW's best hit was Schworz. It all adds up.
He could be Ra's Al Ghul: the thing you said I definitely was. Lol.
OR
He could be Catwoman. CC to draw out the real two-face. Used his DT power on either either Toades/Palmar or somebody else?
How can you be so shortsighted to see town as the only possibility?
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If I fake claimed DT I would just say I DT checked one of the people who died. Not make a fake mafia claim. In fact, if I were town, I wouldn't fake claim DT in the first place.
You could have went the vig route with Two-Face too. If this was your plan from the beginning, why choose the harder role to fake?
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Oh, good point. I assumed it was for all vets. Catwoman could have DT'd him before hitting just to be sure but it seems likely to me he is just Catwoman, so I'm going to ignore everything he says unless I'm convinced otherwise.
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On February 11 2012 02:17 Kurumi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2012 02:14 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Oh, good point. I assumed it was for all vets. Catwoman could have DT'd him before hitting just to be sure but it seems likely to me he is just Catwoman, so I'm going to ignore everything he says unless I'm convinced otherwise. No point in DT-ing. Hit and he's dead Two-Face? Amazing! Hit and he's not dead? That gives CW enough info.
I agree. It is still a possibility.
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You can't assume everybody will make the right decisions.
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