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On February 12 2012 22:15 rgTheSchworz wrote:Show nested quote + You will have to be either VERY lucky, or both you and Chaoser have to be scum, for you to be able to fake a rolecheck. Wrong. If he´s scum, he will deny it. That only works if chaoser has a PR, if he´s vanilla he won´t claim scum, if he is scum he´ll claim vanilla. Your arguments are wrong.
That's just not true. If you DT check him as RED. We'll most likely lynch him. Thus, his claim don't matter at this point.
And again: what was your check n1?? Why are you dodging this question so much?
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On February 12 2012 22:24 Adam4167 wrote:
JayJay, for someone who figured out toads role as fast as I did, you should be able to figure out rG's role equally as quickly.
Otherwise, you're just being belligerent because you're scum.
is that some sort of riddler game here? :D
I'll try to look through his filter again, looking for clues. Right now my spreadshit says "KILL IT WITH FIRE". I am sorry to disappoint you 
kurumi: why would batman claim DT and risk being roleblocked if he can just stay quiet.
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I think too many assumptions are based on the fact that CW did hit n1 instead of DT, adam. If that's what you mean.
rG: Not everyone who makes moves against you, my friend. Toad posted a huge case against you (with the wrong conclusions imo) and he's confirmed town.
ONE FINAL TIME: who did you check n1? You say it's mutually exclusive that you have DT power or scum. So if you are a DT. Who'd you check n1?
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On February 12 2012 22:35 Kurumi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2012 22:33 Toadesstern wrote:On February 12 2012 22:28 Kurumi wrote:
Toad why did You shoot Opz? Thought if chaoser is a mafia he's going to be protected anyways given how much I talked about him yesterday. My 2nd and 3rd best reads were hiro + opz and the coin told me to kill opz! You're fucking Joker not a Two-Face clown. Anyway. Bill Murray lynch: Y/N?
Interesting that you push for a BM lynch. He was accused by Bugs d1. Isn't that your criteria for defending rG?
Other than that, the roleblock / jackal incident along with being an active lurker gives him a place in my "would lynch" list right now...
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On February 12 2012 22:53 Kurumi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2012 22:52 rgTheSchworz wrote:
BM, that says he busses 2 teammates at the same time.
1. Why do that?
2. You´re quoting scum. They post in the thread to get you to mislynch, remember?They´re not the type of guys to stick out and say,,Hey I am scum!!,, Tell us who am I. I don't fear being exposed.
nice. we finally have a do or die.
This IS the riddler game. Guess right and you got my unvote, since then you are BAD town.
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On February 12 2012 22:56 rgTheSchworz wrote:Show nested quote +Theoretically town gains not lynching Chaoser today, which is what we should be doing. However I have no faith that you are actually a dt, so I see no need to listen to your check. I´m not releasing the results of the checks till my role can be confirmed at night. No one will believe me anyway, and scum will be hopping on my wagon along with everyone. This way, scum at least have something to figure out.
this is ridiculous.
Even I am unvoting you, if you know kurumi's role. I don't know how you came up with Doc being red, though. Still, I don't care. Say it and you're confirmed DT even to me.
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wow. that is new.
Alright, assuming that you are not both scum for now. Bad town it is for rG.
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On February 12 2012 23:10 rgTheSchworz wrote:
Not ,,Bad Town’’ at all.
A false DT check claim with no own hint whatsoever on a townie is what I consider bad town play. I am sorry.
But now that you have gained some traction. Chaoser: Guilty Y/N?
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On February 12 2012 23:18 Kurumi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2012 23:16 Toadesstern wrote:On February 12 2012 23:13 Kurumi wrote:
Now to the important things:
We lynch into Cyber_Cheese voters D1 as Radfield suggested (that's good idea) or do we lynch Bill Murray? that was part of the reason I voted opz. He voted CC very late so I thought he might be a nice target besides being scummy. I find it hard to judge BM. Hmm, okay! So. Ico/Rayzorflash or BM?
don't you think we'd have a CC hush claim if BM was scum?
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On February 12 2012 23:24 Kurumi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2012 23:22 Jayjay54 wrote:On February 12 2012 23:18 Kurumi wrote:On February 12 2012 23:16 Toadesstern wrote:On February 12 2012 23:13 Kurumi wrote:
Now to the important things:
We lynch into Cyber_Cheese voters D1 as Radfield suggested (that's good idea) or do we lynch Bill Murray? that was part of the reason I voted opz. He voted CC very late so I thought he might be a nice target besides being scummy. I find it hard to judge BM. Hmm, okay! So. Ico/Rayzorflash or BM? don't you think we'd have a CC hush claim if BM was scum? I think we have no town medics, thus the only medic remaining in game would be Hugo. Although, Radfield claimed being saved N1, that weakens my argument a bit. (Remainder: Bill claimed saving layabout twice.)
hmm with the claim, I feel uncomfortable lynching him...
how do you feel about katina, hiro and quatis.
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hiro made also a couple of "you should kill me I am so bad LOL" posts which made me feel really bad.
I suggest everyone read his blue town play in L.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=253716&user=43447
this feels so different...
he's probably my no1 choice right now, but I'd rather wait...
If chaoser's check would be red, rg would say so...so I take it that he's green or blue.
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On February 12 2012 23:36 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2012 23:34 Forumite wrote:rgTheSchworz Two-Face Checked Kurumi N1 Checked Chaoser N2 Kurumi Harley Quinn Shot ??? N1 Shot WBG N2 BM Hush Protected Layabout N1 - ROLEBLOCKED Protected Layabout N2 Palmar N1 N2 - ROLEBLOCKED Toad Joker Shot Kenpachi N1 Shot opz N2 + Show Spoiler +yes I am awful, wish I had played this game because nothing makes sense to me There are lots of others, if you remember them, please add them to the list.
The good part is, that mafia will try to keep you alive right now. You're an additional KP :-P
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On February 12 2012 23:36 Jayjay54 wrote:hiro made also a couple of "you should kill me I am so bad LOL" posts which made me feel really bad. I suggest everyone read his blue town play in L. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=253716&user=43447this feels so different... he's probably my no1 choice right now, but I'd rather wait... If chaoser's check would be red, rg would say so...so I take it that he's green or blue.
oh and he played that game as a replacement jumping in page 77...
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On February 13 2012 00:50 Forumite wrote:+ Show Spoiler +rgTheSchworz Two-Face
Checked Kurumi N1 (Harley Quinn)
Checked Chaoser N2 (???)
Radfield DT
Checked Sheth N1
Checked WBG N2
Kurumi Harley Quinn
Shot Schworz N1
Shot and killed WBG N2
Toad Joker
Shot and killed Kenpachi N1
Shot and killed opz N2
??? The Penguin
Shot and killed Slardar N1
Shot ??? N2
BM Hush
Protected Layabout N1 - ROLEBLOCKED
Protected Layabout N2
Palmar
N1
N2 - ROLEBLOCKED
DocH Clayface
- Took a bullet N1
- Killed N2 We´re lacking shots taken. Who took a bullet but survived N1 and N2?
BM, Rad, rG and BatmanPalmer claim a hit n1
Nobody claimed a night 2 afaik. maybe tripple stack doc or scum hit third.
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On February 13 2012 01:02 Forumite wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2012 01:00 Kurumi wrote:On February 13 2012 01:00 rgTheSchworz wrote:
Ah N1 excuse me. Where did Kurumi claimed he shoot me N1? There, here, now. You were shot but survived? Are you some kind of veteran too?
he claims medic save, although the medic probably was insane 
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Oh I thought you meant rG.
Nice moves you got there Kurumi <3
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On February 13 2012 01:13 Kurumi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2012 01:10 layabout wrote:On February 13 2012 00:57 rgTheSchworz wrote:I lied once,why should you believe me? Perhaps this is more WIFOM to confuse scum. Yes, it is.Chaoser isn´t going anywhere tomorrow, we still have to lynch 4 scum if chaoser is indeed scum. If he´s VT, same thing. Let´s keep scum guessing a little bit. If he is scum then this act would deter town vigis from shooting at chaoser but could bait 3rd party in checking/shooting him. By this point I am not scum. I don´t know how any people could think that. All my actions would be incredibly gutsy as scum,and would have no purpose.None at all. Plus scum doesn´t have any DT´s left, so you assume scum investigated Kurumi n1.That˙s a big if. I also think I know your role by now. If I am right, you need to cut off this. Your actions are stupid. Therefore we cannot rule out possibilities that include you being stupid. We cannot rule out the chance that you are scum and being stupid. Confusing town, derailing discussion and outing blues are all things that benefit scum and they are all things that you have tried to do or successfully done. However, since further night actions should shed some light on your alignment you are in little danger of being lynched and this discussion will not help with anything. I don't think we can trust you yet. I tried to explain why so that people would not blindly think that you are confirmed town and open themselves up to more confusion. Don't give me this "i think i know your role" jibberish. Call it. I checked him through best detective in the world, bullet. He's good, leave him alone.
there is still the mafia framer medic.
But layabout is right, the night actions should give further information.
To me, rG and chaoser are of the table for today's lynch...
I am still feeling hiro. How does evantrees stand out from the other lurkers? (Serious question, not saying he is a bad choice).
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@layabout: Interesting. maybe BM is usefull afterall.
@forumite: Well, I voted the doc myself day 1, so who am I to judge. rG seemed scummy, too. I actually think these votes are more of a towntell being assertive and not sheeping. Other than then that, random lurker with no opinions. Leaning town.
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@ forumite what are you trying to achieve? that discussion is totally without reason. You don't know how many vigs have multiple bullets, you don't know what thirds did. You also don't know how many shots were faked.
Let's focus on lynch candidates rather than shots.
How do you guys feel about lynching batman palmar. I know, I know lynching thirds, but given that Toad is a vulnerable multishot vig right now, This actually might be good idea...
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On February 13 2012 02:16 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2012 01:41 Jayjay54 wrote:
@ forumite what are you trying to achieve? that discussion is totally without reason. You don't know how many vigs have multiple bullets, you don't know what thirds did. You also don't know how many shots were faked.
Let's focus on lynch candidates rather than shots.
How do you guys feel about lynching batman palmar. I know, I know lynching thirds, but given that Toad is a vulnerable multishot vig right now, This actually might be good idea... If he's batman he's not dangerous to us because he agrees with me about the joker situation and now that my protection is gone he can simply wait for mafia to kill me and doesn't need to waste a night action on me. Why should he do the dirty work when mafia can't afford to leave me alive. He never intended to shoot me I'd say. He wanted to not be RB'ed because mafia can figure out themselves they don't need to RB him if he shoots me or he wanted to make people think I'm not joker to protect me. If he's not the batman he's a blue role imo. Either way I don't want to lynch him.
well, he is dangerous to you.
Of course he would say that he doesn't kill you, even if he intends to do so. He is not going to tell you "Hey man I kill you tonight alright". Matter of fact is, that as long as you are alive town has a motive to lynch him. If you are dead, they won't bother. That is not even WIFOM. That's just factual. I'd be worried if I were you.
But I guess this is your call
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