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On February 09 2012 18:59 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2012 18:55 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On February 09 2012 18:52 Palmar wrote:On February 09 2012 18:51 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On February 09 2012 18:44 ico wrote:
#Vote Palmar
Either him or Jackal were lying about the Phoneqt. It was confirmed to exist by BC, and Jackal turned up as exactly what he claimed yesterday.
That leaves Palmar, who by his actions further confused and irritated everyone* instead of helping to clear them up.
*me. And slardar basically got killed because of this phone crap. You're misunderstanding. Palmar first lied saying he wasn't part of the phone network when really he had been posting in it for a long time and was invited by Radfield on the first day. Then he lied about being Two-Face and being in a mason group with Toadesstern then retracted his claim when rG claimed. I was invited by Jackal I think? I just got a link in a PM. You had been posting it in for a pretty long time. Why did you do this: On February 09 2012 02:19 Palmar wrote:
I claim two-face too, you see, the role is shared between two people who are basically masons. That's why I told Toad he was dumb. I threw some suspicion on him day 1 without ever intending to lynch him (we're confirmed town to each other, obviously). Also I told him not to claim, but he refused to listen to that.
He's the "good" part (DT) and I'm the "bad" part (vigilante)
So yeah, I can confirm Toad's claim. I didn't mean "I just recenetly got a link in PM." I meant "I simply got a link in a PM." And yes, I've been posting in it since yesterday. In addition, I have no idea what you're talking about. I have never claimed two face.
Is there something preventing you from acknowledging your own posts? Like a rule mechanic?
You do have a propensity for trolling. But considering the scenario unless you are being blocked from addressing it somehow I don't see why a town player would refuse to explain his own blatant lies.
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On February 09 2012 19:04 Tunkeg wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2012 19:01 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
If there is still serious doubt later in the day cycle I will claim my name. It is a minor disadvantage to town because it gives the mafia some information I'd rather they not have but if this continues to be a major distraction then it's for the best.
The language I used was specific enough I think that I couldn't have picked it up off of Toades' own breadcrumbs. I thought you made up the immortality power actually as well as the Two-Face claim, it was the fact that you were still claiming to be immortal that made me realize who you were. So this is not some unclever scumplan having you and Toad shitting all over this thread trying to confusing us with stuff the we have no chance in verifying and little reason to belive in?
Like I said, I'll name claim if it continues to be an issue with everybody thus opening myself up to the possibility of a counterclaim.
I'm going to drop this issue for now (mafia made it a huge fucking distraction when I basically confirmed my role in Insane Mafia I) and make a case on Radfield and catch up on the huge chunk of the game I missed earlier.
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On February 09 2012 19:20 ico wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2012 11:03 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
As for claiming. You may name claim/which role it goes with. Basically, if the information is in the OP you may claim that information. If you have a role that is slightly modified than the norm you may not claim that. If you have a role that was modified but its power is something that directly impacts the game it may be discussed/claimed after use but not before.
Emphasis on the last two sentences. Why aren't DoctorHelveticus and Toadesstern modkilled? They are making shit up. Which leaves us with both being liars. Who else does this apply to? rgTheSchworz? need to reread his claims
I asked BC. He said I can indirectly refer to my hidden power. I can breadcrumb it but I can't outright say what it is and what it does unless it is used. I won't quote BC exactly in case that's against the rules, if he allows me to I will.
This is what I said.
"If a player claims ROLE, for example, am I allowed to indirectly poke to see if they know about ROLE? This would be the easiest way for me to discern a fake claim from a real one." He said that's fine.
So I can:
Claim what my name is
Breadcrumb my role PM
I can not:
Say exactly or directly what my "Secondary" power is.
With BC's permission I'll use his exact wording on the matter, or he can just come in and clear this up himself.
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On February 09 2012 19:27 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +because he told me his role, he told me my role he told me part of my role pm, he told me part of his role pm, he claimed right. Show nested quote +11. Breadcrumbing the specific phrasing of your role PM. Do not compare the phrasing in your role PM to prove your alignment. You can claim the abilities you have, but you can't use the specific phrasing of your role PM. If you guys are telling the truth, shouldn't you be modkilled by now? Also, rg's claim doesn't hold up either, because he only claimed alignment, not role.
I asked BC if I could do it and he said it was fine. I was hesitant to do anything like that because of that rule. I don't think it would be fair for BC to modkill me if he gave me permission.
From what BC told me in PMs I could breadcrumb at my role PM as long as I don't reveal my actual powers. I can also make up powers. If there is a misunderstanding of the rules then BC either misunderstood me in our private conversation or vice-versa, in which case I think it would only be fair that I was warned and from here on out disallowed from ever using words from my role PM again.
But again I asked BC:
"If a player claims ROLE, for example, am I allowed to indirectly poke to see if they know about ROLE? This would be the easiest way for me to discern a fake claim from a real one."
and he said that's fine. My understanding was that this rule exists mostly to ensure mafia can safely make fake claims or ensure that players don't get into role PM arguments in games where Role PMs are not all identical or are not traditional (such as in a few of my hosted games).
So for example, in a really normal game setup lets say the role PM for a veteran says "You have an extra night life". A scum player fakeclaims vet and a real vet asks him "do you have an extra night life or an additional night life?"
Or for all vets/dts/medics to all say an extremely specific word in their PM to confirm themselves all to one another making an unstoppable town network.
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Strange also that in that ruling BC says it's okay to claim your powers but in his PMs to me he told me I'm not allowed to claim my powers?
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On February 09 2012 19:37 Toadesstern wrote:
mmh I shot BC a pm asking about the details. As I understand it neither of us did something wrong because neither of us told you what either ones 2nd power is.
I'm going to know what I am allowed to claim and what not sometime soon I guess. What happened yesterday should not be a problem because it was a fakeclaim and surely I am not "immortal" :p
You're acknowledging that you fakeclaimed two-face mason now?
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Wow, I read that post as being Palmar. That's what happens when you stay up for 22 hours :[
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Blue is untrue, red is true. Let it go until BC/rG get here and clear things up. I don't want to see modkills.
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On February 09 2012 19:43 Toadesstern wrote:
hey DocH, did you get shot? And when I ask you if you got shot I'm asking if you got shot.
Yep.
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Dunno what tools the mafia might or might not have. I'd assume that the mafia fake claims given are ones for names that don't actually exist in the game. That's how it happened in LOTR at least.
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Reading through Radfield's filter he actually seems fine. Looks like a missed a lot of his posting when I was out. I'd like to see Palmar's case on him because nothing jumps out to me as scummy.
On February 08 2012 05:47 Radfield wrote:
Man.... Why did you claim schworz?
Please stop talking about the mason thread BM, and please stop talking about a mass claim. The Mason thread is completely unimportant, and 99.99% infiltrated by scum, which is unsurprising when it contains half the player base. If you are not in the mason circle, don't worry. I would actually post the link to the thread to stop the discussion, but can't because Joker is basically exposed in that thread. Anyways, a 15 player circle has basically no value.
Toad looks decent for now, so I'm switching to Sheth. His defense was mediocre at best, and he STILL only posted his reads upon being pressed. I don't even think he voted.
I'm willing to switch to cyber_cheese if need be. I'm gone for the rest of the night pretty much until lynch time.
##Vote: Sheth
Isn't this the lynch you were excited about Palmar? Radfield could just be hedging his bets here but I don't see why he'd feel the need jump off Toads like that. What I don't like about it is that he had already claimed CC was a good lynch earlier and the decision to jump to Sheth instead seems like he is more concerned about how his vote is perceived than what it does? If he's scum he obviously knows CC is town and there are a few townie players that scum like to keep around if possible because they're disruptive/gullible etc and it's easy to keep town focused on them and considering the way CC plays I can definitely seem scum reasoning this way. They're also not going to all vote in the same direction.
I'll go through his posts in the quicktopic and see if I find anything alarming. I'd like Radfield to have more of an impact on this game though. He just seems too gentle and content to build off of what other players are talking about and ask questions. Not sold on this now that I've read the posts in between his early and late ones.
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On February 09 2012 20:15 Forumite wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2012 20:01 Toadesstern wrote:On February 09 2012 19:59 Tyrran wrote:On February 09 2012 19:49 Forumite wrote:On February 09 2012 18:36 Toadesstern wrote:
My play was ingenious and Schworz ruined it for no good reason. I also think if he really is Two-Face he would have known what I'm up to. No, you ruined things for Schworz. If you were trying to defend Two-Face, then you wouldn´t have taken back your claim when Schworz claimed. You made him a bigger target, when what you should have done is still claim Two-Face, then explain in the morning. Taking back your claim suggests that either you are the true Two-Face, or you don´t care about Schworz being nightkilled. I´m leaning towards the second one. On February 09 2012 18:49 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On February 09 2012 18:42 Tunkeg wrote:On February 09 2012 18:40 Toadesstern wrote:On February 09 2012 18:38 Palmar wrote:
What shit? what was going on yesterday. What do you think about the fact that a claimed DT is telling us a blue role of ours is in fact red? Could you think of a plausible reason for a townie to tell us a blue is actually a red role? Why don't you call DrH a claimed blue as well, when you call rgTS a claimed DT. Neither of them are confirmed... Because the language I used in my posts refers to Toadessterns role PM specifically. I checked with BC a great deal to make sure that we would have enough similarities in our PM for me to be able to confirm myself to him as well. Bullshit, breadcrumbing parts of your rolePM is a modkill offence, lying about breadcrumbing is not however. I don´t believe BC gave you two a free pass until I see it in the thread. On February 09 2012 16:16 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Alright, BC also says that no mechanics of a persons own role will be hidden from them. Meaning if you are an insane DT you would know it. Is there any chances that your checks are not completely reliable rG?
BC also confirmed that there are no outside influences that could change the result of a check on me (framing power). If I'm wrong about any of this BC pleas
So as far as I see it there are only two possibilities. rGTheSchworz is lying or rGTheScworz is insane. Or the two of you and Toades are lying. Except for his read coming up as Quilty, rather than a role, is the only thing that looks weird about Schworz, otherwise he acts exactly like I would expect a Town Newbie seeing someone else fakeclaim his role would do.On the other hand you and Toades are giving off several scumsigns, drawing out a blue and then trying to get him killed. If either side is scum, then I´m leaning towards DocH and Toades. ##vote DoctorHelvetica Why would Toad&DocH sacrifice two mafia to get rid of two face, who is going to get killed sooner or later by catwoman anyway ( more likely sooner since he has claimed) ? Why we can argue a long time on whether or not they should be modkilled, what they are doing makes Zero sense as mafia. And even less as third party. Unless someone comes up with a good explanation, i'd rather lynch rGTheSchwortz. see that's how you confirm yourself as a townie to me. Forumite 'sup? OMGUS much? You still haven´t explained why you didn´t just keep claiming Two-Face yesterday. If you believed Schworz was Two-Face then you´d keep claiming.
Toades made a lot of bad moves. This doesn't make him scum. I'm 99.99% sure of his role and it's a blue one. I too want to berate him for making dumb decisions (and myself) but it'd be basically pointless until the game is over and would broadcast way too much info to the scum.
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jaybrundage
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=305850&user=56992
has done nothing other than repeat/comment on other players posts.
On February 09 2012 16:47 jaybrundage wrote:
Imma try to write as i go pretty far behind 30 pages about half way thru. First time trying this lets see how it goes :D
Tunkeg are you seriously doing your tunneling to the death again. It was bad in student mafia and its bad now. You have to stop getting so emotinally invested. If someone offends you it does not mean they are mafia. You need to stop this bad play now its anti town. Put a case but dont do this emotional bullshit.
Toad claims Two-face and says hes immortal. Just a bad play regardless. I think he has some "plan" and it probably involves a fake claim.
Wait Palmar is twoface too thats wierd. Nvm why would Palmar make that thing up with toad i dont get it.
Maybe a counter to cat women. (Perhaps hes Poison Ivy trying to get Catwomen to DT, take a hit at her and then Idk maybe a tracker/watcher involved (forgot which does which) to out the third party) Its wierd to say the least. I kind of dont like it because information is gold in a mafia game. And if you really are Twoface you just gave away information for free : /
Jackal Claims Santa Claus
Scare Crow? maybe Nvm hes zasza (he died)
Crazy QT buziness going on. Apparently a fake Palmar in the QT?
BM claims Hush the medic. I still have no idea why everyone is claiming this game. Is it because of the unique names. Its very wierd.
Wow this is a crazy fucken game. Toad tried to draw a bullet for RGthetwoface but Rg Counterclaims and totally loses the chance of not dying rofl so we have a dead blue tonight god this game is crazy
Offtopic But pics of Opz in creased pants and a button up or it didnt happen
And Jackal died looks like he was blue crazy he got to kill people in his own QT :o
And two townies as well
Both inmates were insane (miller) correct its not a typo.
It seems wierd that two insane townies got killed i would almost say the work of some wierd role. And it looks like one mafia/vig shot got blocked. A claim of a hit from RGtheshouldbedead. Well i caught up. Im really tired atm so no analazy from me i will try to be a bit more active tho D:
Very ineffectual post. This is a lurker who should be on the radar. We don't need a summary of the game, that doesn't count as contributing anything. This is 3/3 of his posts pertaining to the game at hand.
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On February 09 2012 20:25 Forumite wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2012 20:17 Toadesstern wrote:On February 09 2012 20:17 Toadesstern wrote:On February 09 2012 20:15 Forumite wrote:On February 09 2012 20:01 Toadesstern wrote:On February 09 2012 19:59 Tyrran wrote:On February 09 2012 19:49 Forumite wrote:On February 09 2012 18:36 Toadesstern wrote:
My play was ingenious and Schworz ruined it for no good reason. I also think if he really is Two-Face he would have known what I'm up to. No, you ruined things for Schworz. If you were trying to defend Two-Face, then you wouldn´t have taken back your claim when Schworz claimed. You made him a bigger target, when what you should have done is still claim Two-Face, then explain in the morning. Taking back your claim suggests that either you are the true Two-Face, or you don´t care about Schworz being nightkilled. I´m leaning towards the second one. On February 09 2012 18:49 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On February 09 2012 18:42 Tunkeg wrote:On February 09 2012 18:40 Toadesstern wrote:
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what was going on yesterday. What do you think about the fact that a claimed DT is telling us a blue role of ours is in fact red?
Could you think of a plausible reason for a townie to tell us a blue is actually a red role? Why don't you call DrH a claimed blue as well, when you call rgTS a claimed DT. Neither of them are confirmed... Because the language I used in my posts refers to Toadessterns role PM specifically. I checked with BC a great deal to make sure that we would have enough similarities in our PM for me to be able to confirm myself to him as well. Bullshit, breadcrumbing parts of your rolePM is a modkill offence, lying about breadcrumbing is not however. I don´t believe BC gave you two a free pass until I see it in the thread. On February 09 2012 16:16 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Alright, BC also says that no mechanics of a persons own role will be hidden from them. Meaning if you are an insane DT you would know it. Is there any chances that your checks are not completely reliable rG?
BC also confirmed that there are no outside influences that could change the result of a check on me (framing power). If I'm wrong about any of this BC pleas
So as far as I see it there are only two possibilities. rGTheSchworz is lying or rGTheScworz is insane. Or the two of you and Toades are lying. Except for his read coming up as Quilty, rather than a role, is the only thing that looks weird about Schworz, otherwise he acts exactly like I would expect a Town Newbie seeing someone else fakeclaim his role would do.On the other hand you and Toades are giving off several scumsigns, drawing out a blue and then trying to get him killed. If either side is scum, then I´m leaning towards DocH and Toades. ##vote DoctorHelvetica Why would Toad&DocH sacrifice two mafia to get rid of two face, who is going to get killed sooner or later by catwoman anyway ( more likely sooner since he has claimed) ? Why we can argue a long time on whether or not they should be modkilled, what they are doing makes Zero sense as mafia. And even less as third party. Unless someone comes up with a good explanation, i'd rather lynch rGTheSchwortz. see that's how you confirm yourself as a townie to me. Forumite 'sup? OMGUS much? You still haven´t explained why you didn´t just keep claiming Two-Face yesterday. If you believed Schworz was Two-Face then you´d keep claiming. I kept claiming. Palmar retracted his claim and everything was going down so I stopped it and he even explained to everyone that I'm a vet who's trying to catch bullets to protect Two-Face. There was no way to stick with it at that point in time. EBWOP So? If you wanted to catch bullets, then say Palmar was lying, say he was just trying to protect you with the talk about mason, and keep claiming Two-Face.
he fucked up. he can't actually go back and redo everything to make the best possible move so what exactly do you want?
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On February 09 2012 20:30 Tunkeg wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2012 20:26 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On February 09 2012 20:25 Forumite wrote:On February 09 2012 20:17 Toadesstern wrote:On February 09 2012 20:17 Toadesstern wrote:On February 09 2012 20:15 Forumite wrote:On February 09 2012 20:01 Toadesstern wrote:On February 09 2012 19:59 Tyrran wrote:On February 09 2012 19:49 Forumite wrote:On February 09 2012 18:36 Toadesstern wrote:
My play was ingenious and Schworz ruined it for no good reason. I also think if he really is Two-Face he would have known what I'm up to. No, you ruined things for Schworz. If you were trying to defend Two-Face, then you wouldn´t have taken back your claim when Schworz claimed. You made him a bigger target, when what you should have done is still claim Two-Face, then explain in the morning. Taking back your claim suggests that either you are the true Two-Face, or you don´t care about Schworz being nightkilled. I´m leaning towards the second one. On February 09 2012 18:49 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
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Because the language I used in my posts refers to Toadessterns role PM specifically. I checked with BC a great deal to make sure that we would have enough similarities in our PM for me to be able to confirm myself to him as well. Bullshit, breadcrumbing parts of your rolePM is a modkill offence, lying about breadcrumbing is not however. I don´t believe BC gave you two a free pass until I see it in the thread. On February 09 2012 16:16 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Alright, BC also says that no mechanics of a persons own role will be hidden from them. Meaning if you are an insane DT you would know it. Is there any chances that your checks are not completely reliable rG?
BC also confirmed that there are no outside influences that could change the result of a check on me (framing power). If I'm wrong about any of this BC pleas
So as far as I see it there are only two possibilities. rGTheSchworz is lying or rGTheScworz is insane. Or the two of you and Toades are lying. Except for his read coming up as Quilty, rather than a role, is the only thing that looks weird about Schworz, otherwise he acts exactly like I would expect a Town Newbie seeing someone else fakeclaim his role would do.On the other hand you and Toades are giving off several scumsigns, drawing out a blue and then trying to get him killed. If either side is scum, then I´m leaning towards DocH and Toades. ##vote DoctorHelvetica Why would Toad&DocH sacrifice two mafia to get rid of two face, who is going to get killed sooner or later by catwoman anyway ( more likely sooner since he has claimed) ? Why we can argue a long time on whether or not they should be modkilled, what they are doing makes Zero sense as mafia. And even less as third party. Unless someone comes up with a good explanation, i'd rather lynch rGTheSchwortz. see that's how you confirm yourself as a townie to me. Forumite 'sup? OMGUS much? You still haven´t explained why you didn´t just keep claiming Two-Face yesterday. If you believed Schworz was Two-Face then you´d keep claiming. I kept claiming. Palmar retracted his claim and everything was going down so I stopped it and he even explained to everyone that I'm a vet who's trying to catch bullets to protect Two-Face. There was no way to stick with it at that point in time. EBWOP So? If you wanted to catch bullets, then say Palmar was lying, say he was just trying to protect you with the talk about mason, and keep claiming Two-Face. he fucked up. he can't actually go back and redo everything to make the best possible move so what exactly do you want? He want to hang him for it, and you to. I agree...
For making a suboptimal play? Would you be happy if I just nameclaimed?
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Toades, I'm gonna just nameclaim in a minute to avoid more and more and more and more confusion. There is a slight possibility there is more than one role that has a connection in the same way I think we do but I think I've read you correctly. If I'm not the person you expected, then expect that somebody else will be able to relate my role to my breadcrumbs and confirm that I am town. I seriously doubt this is the case though.
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Pointless, if we were scum we'd have coordinated this anyway.
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On February 09 2012 20:36 Forumite wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2012 20:26 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On February 09 2012 20:25 Forumite wrote:On February 09 2012 20:17 Toadesstern wrote:On February 09 2012 20:17 Toadesstern wrote:On February 09 2012 20:15 Forumite wrote:On February 09 2012 20:01 Toadesstern wrote:On February 09 2012 19:59 Tyrran wrote:On February 09 2012 19:49 Forumite wrote:On February 09 2012 18:36 Toadesstern wrote:
My play was ingenious and Schworz ruined it for no good reason. I also think if he really is Two-Face he would have known what I'm up to. No, you ruined things for Schworz. If you were trying to defend Two-Face, then you wouldn´t have taken back your claim when Schworz claimed. You made him a bigger target, when what you should have done is still claim Two-Face, then explain in the morning. Taking back your claim suggests that either you are the true Two-Face, or you don´t care about Schworz being nightkilled. I´m leaning towards the second one. On February 09 2012 18:49 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
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Because the language I used in my posts refers to Toadessterns role PM specifically. I checked with BC a great deal to make sure that we would have enough similarities in our PM for me to be able to confirm myself to him as well. Bullshit, breadcrumbing parts of your rolePM is a modkill offence, lying about breadcrumbing is not however. I don´t believe BC gave you two a free pass until I see it in the thread. On February 09 2012 16:16 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Alright, BC also says that no mechanics of a persons own role will be hidden from them. Meaning if you are an insane DT you would know it. Is there any chances that your checks are not completely reliable rG?
BC also confirmed that there are no outside influences that could change the result of a check on me (framing power). If I'm wrong about any of this BC pleas
So as far as I see it there are only two possibilities. rGTheSchworz is lying or rGTheScworz is insane. Or the two of you and Toades are lying. Except for his read coming up as Quilty, rather than a role, is the only thing that looks weird about Schworz, otherwise he acts exactly like I would expect a Town Newbie seeing someone else fakeclaim his role would do.On the other hand you and Toades are giving off several scumsigns, drawing out a blue and then trying to get him killed. If either side is scum, then I´m leaning towards DocH and Toades. ##vote DoctorHelvetica Why would Toad&DocH sacrifice two mafia to get rid of two face, who is going to get killed sooner or later by catwoman anyway ( more likely sooner since he has claimed) ? Why we can argue a long time on whether or not they should be modkilled, what they are doing makes Zero sense as mafia. And even less as third party. Unless someone comes up with a good explanation, i'd rather lynch rGTheSchwortz. see that's how you confirm yourself as a townie to me. Forumite 'sup? OMGUS much? You still haven´t explained why you didn´t just keep claiming Two-Face yesterday. If you believed Schworz was Two-Face then you´d keep claiming. I kept claiming. Palmar retracted his claim and everything was going down so I stopped it and he even explained to everyone that I'm a vet who's trying to catch bullets to protect Two-Face. There was no way to stick with it at that point in time. EBWOP So? If you wanted to catch bullets, then say Palmar was lying, say he was just trying to protect you with the talk about mason, and keep claiming Two-Face. he fucked up. he can't actually go back and redo everything to make the best possible move so what exactly do you want? I want to know if there are any Town reasons for him doing what he did. If there is no Town reasons then I must assume there are scum reasons. Messing up happens, at least we didn´t loose a Blue because of it, but we could have. Toades, I don´t care who, just tell me, do you have a read on a Two-Face that isn´t Schworz?
My guess is he thought he'd use his invulnerability to save the person he thought was two-face. Knowing he can't die at night, he'd soak up whatever hits would have gone to someone else. He could have made a better play with that, but probably didn't think things through well enough. The fact that 2 other people came out and claimed the same role is confusing, I didn't even know what the fuck was happening without thinking about it for a while.
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On February 09 2012 20:37 Tunkeg wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2012 20:32 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On February 09 2012 20:30 Tunkeg wrote:On February 09 2012 20:26 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On February 09 2012 20:25 Forumite wrote:On February 09 2012 20:17 Toadesstern wrote:On February 09 2012 20:17 Toadesstern wrote:On February 09 2012 20:15 Forumite wrote:On February 09 2012 20:01 Toadesstern wrote:On February 09 2012 19:59 Tyrran wrote:
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Why would Toad&DocH sacrifice two mafia to get rid of two face, who is going to get killed sooner or later by catwoman anyway ( more likely sooner since he has claimed) ?
Why we can argue a long time on whether or not they should be modkilled, what they are doing makes Zero sense as mafia. And even less as third party. Unless someone comes up with a good explanation, i'd rather lynch rGTheSchwortz.
see that's how you confirm yourself as a townie to me. Forumite 'sup? OMGUS much? You still haven´t explained why you didn´t just keep claiming Two-Face yesterday. If you believed Schworz was Two-Face then you´d keep claiming. I kept claiming. Palmar retracted his claim and everything was going down so I stopped it and he even explained to everyone that I'm a vet who's trying to catch bullets to protect Two-Face. There was no way to stick with it at that point in time. EBWOP So? If you wanted to catch bullets, then say Palmar was lying, say he was just trying to protect you with the talk about mason, and keep claiming Two-Face. he fucked up. he can't actually go back and redo everything to make the best possible move so what exactly do you want? He want to hang him for it, and you to. I agree... For making a suboptimal play? Would you be happy if I just nameclaimed? Him for playing a really really confusing game, which I can only belive to be non-townie. And you for getting DT checked comming out red, and after that filling this post up with alot of confusing stuff. You are the one who said either you or rgTS is lying. I belive it to be you, am I wrong, then we would by your logic kill him.
Not quite correct. There is still a possibility that rg is insane or has unreliable checks.
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I need to wait for BC to claim my name. There is an issue with my role that is potentially confounding and I need to make sure BC is okay with me alluding to it. I will PM him with that.
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