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On February 11 2012 03:41 VisceraEyes wrote:
1. Everyone stays on Sheth
2. Lynch Radfield tomorrow if Sheth flips town
3. ???
4. Profit.
We're already on the winning path guys, no need to deviate. Don't fix what's not broken.
oh man, this is like the first time ever, I agree with you.
This really feels like town had too much time to think about who to lynch and now they start to randomly stroll.
Sheth flips red, if he doesn't we'll have a 99% scum lynch in radfield the next day.
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On February 11 2012 03:55 layabout wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2012 03:41 VisceraEyes wrote:
1. Everyone stays on Sheth
2. Lynch Radfield tomorrow if Sheth flips town and not a miller(insane inmate)
3. ???
4. Profit.
We're already on the winning path guys, no need to deviate. Don't fix what's not broken.
fixed
duh.
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On February 11 2012 05:35 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2012 05:20 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
I'm reading everything, and like I said, I think lynching me is optimal at this point. We'll get to either kill radfield or I'm a miller. You will find out a lot from this, and before I die I'll give you all my reads on everyone. Please at least take the time to read them. I know you can do it town, keep in mind those who push for lynches, but not because they look scummy. (I feel like this is the best way to find the third party and you can then tell them apart from mafia as well). did you see the picture layabout did? You could make a picture like that as well or make an excel sheet with 31 names, and give everyone a different color. I'm not going to link you my sheet but I can show my explanation on the right side + Show Spoiler [click me!] +Those blue things are obviously something you should leave out. They're for me to keep track of all those blue slips to figure out why someone is doing something. However telling mafia who blueslipped is not a useful talent toi have so just use green for those people like they never said a word about blues. That would be pretty useful and a little text for everyone if you want to do that as well. Not a huge essay/case but maybe one or two phrases. If someone is a null just leave them white or whatever. Also I don't think telling us your green reads is bad at this moment because we're lynching you for a reason but if you don't want to tell mafia who's your strongest green read (they might kill him just because of that the next night) just use the same color for everyone you think is green, no matter if he is "slighty leaning green" or "confirmed green" in your opinion.
you have a 11 color scheme in an 31 player game?  neat
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nice. the only bad thing about this lynch is, that it creates no voting related information, if you know what I mean. Everyone voted sheth and those who didn't, knew that they don't change the result anyways. WBG opposing the lynch isn't a tell whatsoever to me. There is so much WIFOM in this action. So in my spreadsheet he neither gets town points nor scum points for that...
Radfield is now (like toad said) not scum to me, until he gives me reason to do otherwise.
Palmar. I hope you don't waste your bullet on someone who is pretty much likely town.
Next two lynch choices are:
rG, can't believe that a fake DT claim is still believed to be town. Also, there is a lot of information coming from this. chaoser defending him. The situation with doc (even if the check was fake).
hero, he's the one lurker, I'd like to kill the most. His few post make me feel sad.
I'll look into Katina again, too. Something was off about the way she popped up and pushed sheth...
Also, I actually don't like blue directions right now. I'd rather have them make their own choices and have mafia deal with the WIFOM. I am conformtable in you guys <3.
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On February 11 2012 18:58 rgTheSchworz wrote:
Voting for me is a waste at this point in time JayJay.
Even if you think i m scum because I lied,then you should shoot Palmar because he lied too.
Can t say that I agree with chaoser defending me.
Trusting what you think on first impulse is bad.
On the other hand, how can you explain my actions, in a way that I end up scum?
Reasonably, I should ve been scumcoached by now.would they allow me to endanger their team?
I actually getting more and more warm with the idea that palmar might be a good lynch. However, he didn't false claim + false check. The check is way worse. Mantaining it for so long is horrible.
Why don't you agree that Chaoser supporting you in a strange way (check out his filter) is painting him red, if you flip scum?
Dude, I think you are a good lynch, since I first figured out toads role. It's far from first impulse.
I can explain them as scum:
You are actively fishing blue, forcing a mislynch and saving Sheth as well. So the lynches would have been (without Toad's support):
a) Sheth Doc
b) Sheth rG
Plus confusion, plus bluefishing.
Also, by the time you claimed, Rad's check on Sheth wasn't out yet. Without it, Sheth could maybe argue his way out of the accusations.
All in all, the move wasn't as bad from scum perspective. Then the Rad check and the Toad situation destroyed it.
Now, could you please make up a scenario which makes sense from town point of view where you fake a DT check on a town guy?
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could you two honeys take your argument upstairs. It's just random tunneling.
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On February 11 2012 19:21 Bill Murray wrote:
i took a hit last night
a wild slowpoke appears!
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Ok so people are starting to lie about hits as well. Nifty. Still, I don't think this discussion will get us anyway, do you?
rG mind if you asked my last post, where I explained your actions as scum. Could you give me an explaination of your actions from a town perspective? I can't find one. Please help me out.
Otherwise, you'll have my vote locked.
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On February 11 2012 20:23 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2012 20:07 Forumite wrote:On February 11 2012 19:42 Palmar wrote:On February 11 2012 19:42 rgTheSchworz wrote:On February 11 2012 19:35 Palmar wrote:
I got hit last night. Look, are you trying to troll us all this game? If you re not dead tonight I suppose you re somewhere on my lynch list. I'm not trolling I'm not lying. I got hit last night. If you were hit last night, why are you not dead? Because as long as clayface lives he takes all hits for the joker.
this sentence is not really smart
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On February 11 2012 20:32 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Don't know. It's obvious enough now that I was "hired" by Joker, so I assumed Toadesstern is Joker and that Palmar took the fake claim so that Toades wouldn't have to. Because Toades didn't call him out, I didn't push him to get lynched. I briefly considered hte possibility that they're both playing me and that the real Joker is too afraid to CC but I doubt it. One of them is the Joker.
If I survive the night the Joker can't die. I also can't be killed by Batman or Catwoman, just scum/vig. A scum/vig hit will take me out and open up the possibility of the Joker dying. That's why I need medics. I think it's pretty clear from Toades' posts regarding the issue, his claims of invulnerability, etc. that he is the real joker. I just don't understand the point of Palmar's lie, it's easy enough to keep Toades alive knowing this. Medics just need to keep me up.
nice. now everything is spilled out. If scum didn't know, they know now.
Might as well wrap it up for everyone.
Toad was asked at one point if he "hired" someone by doc. This word apparently is in both PMs, looking at the way toad reacted. In the game Joker "hires" the past-actor clayface to carry out his jobs and to protect him. Same constellation for penguin (btw: doc, you said in your case that opz claimed penguin? was that in the qt? he sure talks about him a lot) and solomon (please don't claim). Knowing the lore, it was quite obvious that Toad is joker. Let's see if I would have lost the bet.
Unfortunately, medics don't do shit against batman, doc. I can't believed, you let yourselves lead into so much brabbeling.
also, rG, I am still waiting, I know you read this.
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On February 11 2012 20:35 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2012 20:30 rgTheSchworz wrote:
Dr, answer me this:
Does Palmar Die this night?
Don't know if he will. Vigilantes shouldn't shoot him. The only reason I believe Palmar to be town is that he pushed Sheth a bit too hard day 1 and Toades, who I assume to be the real joker, never seemed to have a problem with Palmars claim. To make things more confusing for the potential Batman, in addition to being Clayface, I am also the Joker. Invulnerable to Batman. From what I understand nothing can kill the actual Joker as long as I'm alive. It could be Palmar, it could be Toades, it could be someone afraid to CC. Since I can't die by third party I just need a medic to keep me alive so that scum doesn't hit me and Batman is basically forced to just go off and look for Hugo instead.
you can't die to third party? wow, that's handy.
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On February 11 2012 20:43 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
No, I don't believe OpZ claimed Penguin. Did someone claim Penguin? If that happened I didn't read it. OpZ has been worthless in this game but he's probably got a similar role to me. I'm not good at picking up on other players breadcrumbs.
I can't die to Batman naturally. I can die to scum/vig which is why I need the medic.
oh then I misunderstood. you said something about roleplaying penguin.
breadcrumbing may be find under opz filter searching for "penguin". he doesn't stop talking about him.
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on the topic who is batman.
I don't see any good reason for batman to claim dt.
He will draw scum RB (I assume it is possible?) which he absolutely doesn't want whatsoever.
=> Radfield isn't third. Palmar most likely is.
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On February 11 2012 20:53 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
He could be lying about the shot. Radfield actually didn't specify if it was by medic or not.
They could both be third party.
no. If I was batman, there is no way I'd claim DT and risk being RBed all fucking game long. Batman isn't fun if he is RBed
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On February 11 2012 20:57 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Batman can't claim.
He can't claim batman, but he can claim all other stuff. again, a DT claim would result in RB => radfield is not third imo
On February 11 2012 20:57 Toadesstern wrote:
DocH is clayface. Batman can't penetrate Clayface = I am safe for tonight.
Also I'd be willing to help batman if he's not shooting Clayface. I never asked about this, idk if it takes 2 hits for batman to kill Clayface or if he's just not able to kill Clayface at all. If he wants to get to me he has to get through Clayface first.
I don't want townies to get killed so let's kill hugo first kk?
palmar, listen to this man.
also, I would have won the bet :D
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On February 11 2012 21:02 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2012 21:01 Jayjay54 wrote:On February 11 2012 20:57 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Batman can't claim. He can't claim batman, but he can claim all other stuff. again, a DT claim would result in RB => radfield is not third imo On February 11 2012 20:57 Toadesstern wrote:
DocH is clayface. Batman can't penetrate Clayface = I am safe for tonight.
Also I'd be willing to help batman if he's not shooting Clayface. I never asked about this, idk if it takes 2 hits for batman to kill Clayface or if he's just not able to kill Clayface at all. If he wants to get to me he has to get through Clayface first.
I don't want townies to get killed so let's kill hugo first kk? palmar, listen to this man. also, I would have won the bet :D well just think about my situation. What should I have said instead? "Yeah you'd probably win the bet" ? :p Still I'm not going to die tonight. I want DocH to survive this night and I'm going to kill Hugo ezpz.
i know i know, but you talked way tooo much, this was meant to be kept secret.
how are you killing hugo? ultimate joker skill?
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On February 11 2012 21:07 Adam4167 wrote:
What if they're both 3rd party and batman decided to shoot at catwoman.
i hate to repeat myself, but whatever.
you would not claim dt as third, because you'll get RBed by scum. you don't want that.
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On February 11 2012 21:11 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2012 21:09 Jayjay54 wrote:On February 11 2012 21:07 Adam4167 wrote:
What if they're both 3rd party and batman decided to shoot at catwoman. i hate to repeat myself, but whatever. you would not claim dt as third, because you'll get RBed by scum. you don't want that. well with like 10 blue claimes on d1/n1/d2 I don't think he's that afraid of being RB'ed as batman, even if he claimes DT. So idk.
if I was scum, I'd RB rad right now and I believe he will be. He is the only DT who claimed and he had already a correct red check.
Also, what is his motive to claim DT without having any votes on him.
No, I don't believe rad is third.
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On February 11 2012 22:11 Tunkeg wrote:
Some of you guys need to shut up allready. And especially you JayJay, are you scum or just really stupid? Fishing for blues and outing blues like you do.
eeeexcuse me?
If you look through my filter you'll find like 5 posts telling toad and docH to shutthe hell up talking. You'll also find some posts where I deflect other bluehunting (layabout) by saying that this is bound to be kept secret.
I just cleared everything up (e.g. why I know that this is legit) when the Doc posted that toad is joker. And I 100% agree that the joker claim is unnecessary as fuck.
If you don't follow the thread, don't call others stupid.
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On February 11 2012 22:29 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2012 22:24 Jayjay54 wrote:On February 11 2012 22:11 Tunkeg wrote:
Some of you guys need to shut up allready. And especially you JayJay, are you scum or just really stupid? Fishing for blues and outing blues like you do.
eeeexcuse me? If you look through my filter you'll find like 5 posts telling toad and docH to shutthe hell up talking. You'll also find some posts where I deflect other bluehunting (layabout) by saying that this is bound to be kept secret. I just cleared everything up (e.g. why I know that this is legit) when the Doc posted that toad is joker. And I 100% agree that the joker claim is unnecessary as fuck. If you don't follow the thread, don't call others stupid. I was shutting up all the time. DocH claimed I am joker and he was the guy openly claiming palmar was a liar after palmar claimed joker. If Palmar is batman he already knew I'm batman way before DocH told everyone. And I am pretty sure Palmar knew I am joker before n1 deadline which again makes it more likely that he's not the badman. But maybe I misinterpreted something idk.
No offense here toad, I was just pointing out, how stupid it is to state that I was the one talking everything out, when I was in fact trying to conceal your identities all the time
The immortal claim was already not the best choice though and caused a billion distractions, but whatever. Now we have to cope with that.
I also agree that everyone of importance (scum, thirds) most likely already figured out who you were. Tunkeg might have been a little slow...
If Palmar knew you were the joker, he couldn't have done anything, you said so yourself, you are immortal and he might just have DTed you. My money is still on him.
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