On February 08 2012 20:00 ico wrote: What is this... Toadesstern, let's assume your claim isn't a lie for a moment:
Catwoman is still hunting for another townie. So unless Penguin also claims (please don't) you have accomplished nothing so far. I partially understand your immortality claim. It is another flavor of wine added to the table.
You will have to prove yourself.
Well without my claim catwoman probably would have just shot into that. Now she's probably going to DT either me or him first and at least won't shoot Schworz. Maybe she's going to shoot me, I don't really care. Maybe she's calling bullshit on both of us and rnd-DT's someone else because she wants to find penguin. Maybe she shoots randomly into town. I really don't know but I'd say it's pretty likely that she's going to DT tonight. And Mafia has to find out if I really am imba or if I fakeclaimed and only want to catch bullets as a VT/Vet. They can't allow a DT to rampage all over their faces.
schworz claimed DT. He's going to get shot regardless of whether you claimed or not. If not by catwoman then by mafia. In fact , by claiming two-face, you have taken away the WIFOM part of mafia and catwoman deciding if they want to kill him or not. Now mafia will definitely shoot at the guy. So really, you saved no one.
And how can you say "I really don't know but I'm pretty sure she's going to DT tonight?" That makes no sense. How do you KNOW that she's going to DT?
On January 31 2012 14:56 Toadesstern wrote: finally :3 Batman:
Being the stealthy man you are, your hit goes through all protections except those of Solomon Grundy, Clayface, Bane, and Mr. Freeze
That's in both batmans and cat womans describition. Later on it's
You are also a master of stealth and are immune to all night hits.
in both describtions. Sooooo, what happens if batman shoots/kills/bitchslapps/whatever cat woman or vice versa? The first quote indicated that they get shot because their hits go through everything but real-VETs, the 2nd one looks like you are pretty much immortal and can only be killed by lynch.
On January 31 2012 23:13 BloodyC0bbler wrote: They can't off eachother. Will edit that in.
At the start of the game, you yourself ask for clarification on who batman and catwoman's kills can and cannot go through. From BC's answer it looks like he wanted be to clear 100% on who they can and cannot 1-hit kill. So really, your "I'm imba" makes no sense as a claim.
Worthless post. Please step up Chaoser. I will believe toad's claim, based on the fact that phone booths exist and my neighbors are loud an obnoxious. Plus I'm by the courthouse now so I'm coming for that penguin bitch. He better let me carry a scythe or his umbrella after this....
...seriously? You're telling ME to step it up? That post was part of a series that was trying to pressure toad into giving more info/slipping up because his initial claim was scummy as fuck and made no logical sense from a townie perspective (or from a mafia one either for that matter). No one counterclaimed him then and the questions were getting nowhere so I dropped them. And now he's confessed to fakeclaiming so there's no claim to "believe" in anymore. YOU STEP IT UP since clearly you haven't been following thread enough before even deciding to post. Good job.
Your filter is a mess, I'm going to quote some "worthwhile posts" of yours:
On February 07 2012 14:56 ~OpZ~ wrote: I think RTG is town....only because I liked his first few posts this game even though a few people jumped on him. Just sayin. I was mafia last game with him. But I really need to catch up. That fuckin bastard penguin blew the bridge and left me over here with these ass hole joker inmates....I'ma fucking kill that fat fuck when I get back to the museum.
On February 08 2012 11:04 ~OpZ~ wrote: Look, I'm sorry guys, I had a walk in interview today and got the job based on my best friend only....I start tomorrow at 9 a.m. training at a location an hour away. I'm sorry for my inactivity as of the moment. Plus the penguin left me on the wrong side of the bridge that piece of shit.
On February 08 2012 11:38 ~OpZ~ wrote: EBWOP:
I GOTTA SWIM IN THE ICEY WATER....I'm probably gonna freeze to death guys....
On February 08 2012 11:46 ~OpZ~ wrote: I felt like getting in character. Plus I've been busy busy doing my job shooting jokers men and shit. But I gotta get the fuck outta this steel mill dude. It's fucking scary and I swear I had a batarang fly over my head.
On February 08 2012 11:58 ~OpZ~ wrote: Moving my vote to C_C due to reservations against wanting sheth dead just yet...Just....Yet....
K, I'ma start swimming. Gotta go pick up my dress pants and button up after I finish in this disgusting joker fish water.....
That's five quotes. That's HALF of all your posts in this game. All of them are worthless. You are the definition of lurker.
On February 09 2012 17:02 Toadesstern wrote: I still don't know what to make out of Schworz, especially the fact that he's still alive.
Sadly I can't tell you if I got hit tonight because mechanism of being immortal doesn't tell me if I get hit. Maybe I got hit by mafia, maybe I got hit by a vig, maybe I got hit by thirdparty. I would have survived all those yesterday and given the flips I'm going to survive them again tonight. So it's another night of immortality but I don't know if I used that power.
On February 09 2012 17:36 Toadesstern wrote: also I'm a VT from now on. As mentioned I used my shot on Kenpachi.
so I'm caught up...this game basically turned into claim: the game. Due to all the confusion from all the claims, fakeclaims, fake-whatevers, shit's all fucked up. That being said, at least we're gettign somewhere. Even if that somewhere is balanced on a very specific understanding of what happened last night.
##vote: liquid`sheth
I hope the end of this day and the next night will bring clarity to the situation
Also...
On February 10 2012 06:10 risk.nuke wrote: Beeing lurky isn't a valid option to be scum in this game. Because of the spammers overwhelming everyone. I'm pretty sure somewhere between 600 and 1000 posts (corresponding 30-50 pages) could be removed completely and not affect the overall information the slightest. If we're going to shoot lurkers then we should first shoot the fucking spammers spreading their chaos.. ...then we can look into shooting lurkers.
LOLOL holy crap is this a scummy post. I hate the spam/confusion as well (as can be seen in my posts) but at least we're getting somewhere using that spam/claim/agDSGAfgg. You're suggesting we turn this game from claim: the game into shoot spammers/lurkers? Are you kidding me?
On February 10 2012 07:36 chaoser wrote: so I'm caught up...this game basically turned into claim: the game. Due to all the confusion from all the claims, fakeclaims, fake-whatevers, shit's all fucked up. That being said, at least we're gettign somewhere. Even if that somewhere is balanced on a very specific understanding of what happened last night.
On February 10 2012 18:29 Palmar wrote: In addition bugs. As I've explained, there is a reason to believe Radfield did DT check Sheth and there is no reason to believe he's not telling the truth about the result.
Radfield lying about the result makes no sense no matter his alignment. And seeing as Radfield is confirmed as 3rd party (through my shot), it would indeed be counter-productive for him to lie, and likely get hanged.
I don't think you're reading the thread. I think you're raging for no reason at all. Why are you doing it?
He's not "confirmed" 3rd party, this itself is flawed logic since your shot can not be "confirmed" (as he did not die). Unless you wanna claim your blue-name, there's really no point in believing you even shot the guy lol.
Basically, like I said before, everything rests on a very specific understanding of what actually happened last night. If Sheth doesn't flip mafia then the scenario you've been pushing as the real narrative all falls down.
I'mma just chill anyway till the Sheth flip. WBG is freakin out for no big reason. Either Sheth flips mafia or he doesn't and then we kill radfield/you/rg. No big problem lol.
And you act like you're the only one in control of bullets lol.
On February 10 2012 23:15 Palmar wrote: Rofl, you're not even reading the thread chaoser.
I already claimed my blue name. It's the goddamn Joker. You don't have to shoot me, we have an asshole in a batsuit for that.
Why are you trying to Link Sheth's flip to anything else? Can you explain how it's related? We have a DT Check on Sheth that says he's red. Even without my bullet it makes no Sense for Radfield to lie about his result. My bullet simply confirms his as not scum, Which leaves catwoman.
No matter his alignment, if he'S lying about Sheth's DT Check result, he gets lynched tomorrow. As Batman/Catwoman, that's extremely terrible play. So, I don't think we even need to consider the possibility that Sheth flips anything but Scum or Miller.
If he flips Miller, we carry on by lynching scummy fuckers, especially those that have pre-emptively tried to Link his flip to someone else getting lynched. You see, if he flips miller we gain no information other than that there are a ton of millers in the game.
If he flips Scum, we carry on by lynching scummy fuckers.
I'm the Only ONE in control of bullets with nothing to lose. I'm a dead, reckless man walking.
Die scum.
Oh right, I forget you claimed Joker. Like you claimed Two-Face at night time. We also had a Catwoman for that if you remember. But then you unclaimed =[.
DT checks tell nothing about alignment in this game given how every single faction has them. The flip of the person does though, which is why I'm waiting for it. Chill yo. Like I said, if Sheth flips mafia then it's all cool lol.
If Sheth flips miller, which he might, as you said lol, then we get some info out of that as well. And that info is that the foundation on which you have built your narrative is shaky lol. How can you say Sheth flipping miller gives no information when in the previous sentence you insinuate that him flipping miller incriminates " those that have pre-emptively tried to Link his flip to someone else getting lynched". Is that not "information" lol?
Aside from your Batman theory for Rad though, another one comes into mind. Let's say for a second that you ARE the Joker. And you DID shoot Radfield. Who else has vet powers as well as DT powers? Someone Red I think? Either way, nothing matters till the flip anyway so I'mma sit back and wait for it. This is all telescoping my arguments for when the flip occurs lol.
Oh, and I really don't care if I die or not. Yawnn.
On February 10 2012 23:35 VisceraEyes wrote: He's claiming his Joker shot is unblockable, and that Radfield survived. What do you think about that chaoser?
It's a claim. It's not confirmed. I doubt BC would give a town-side vigi an unblockable shot though. I'd treat it with disinterest. Like I said, the current narrative we're all buying into supposes a very specific set of actions to occur over the next Day and Night phase. If they don't occur then we can move under the assumption that that narrative is flawed. Whether it's flawed because people are playing suboptimally or because it's a fake narrative that is being used to trick everyone, we can make the decision then. You can guess which of those two I'm leaning towards though lol.
On February 11 2012 00:22 Palmar wrote: a) I did not claim Two-Face. Stop Lying.
b) While I cannot say anything about my role, I can tell you that the people my hits cannot penetrate are listed. The Mafia vet is not among them. It's the same four vets as catwoman and batman cannot hit, along with catwoman and batman themselves.
If Sheth flips miller, which he might, as you said lol, then we get some info out of that as well. And that info is that the foundation on which you have built your narrative is shaky lol
I did not build any narrative, and his flip has nothing to do with anything. You're being intentionally thick, you're trying to link together things that aren't linked for your own gain. You basically confirmed yourself as scum.
The entire "narrative" is:
Radfield has a red DT check on Sheth. We lynch Sheth, which is normally the obvious play.
The only thing I added to this is:
Radfield cannot be Red because I hit him. So doing the obvious play is even more obvious.
But at this point I'd be fine with lynching you instead of Sheth.
a) lol ok
I did not build any narrative, and his flip has nothing to do with anything. You're being intentionally thick, you're trying to link together things that aren't linked for your own gain. You basically confirmed yourself as scum.
lol, how can you even say that?
Your narrative is that you are the joker, your shot is unblockable, you shot Radfield, therefore he is the Batman, that you will die tonight due to outing yourself as the joker, and that if Sheth flips mafia or miller then we move on as usual and "carry on by lynching scummy fuckers". This implies that, even if Sheth flips miller that we should all buy into this notion that Radfield is Batman when that is a horrible leap of logic. If Sheth is miller then we need to rethink the situation and be a bit more cynical. It is possible that you are lying. It is possible that Radfield is actually mafia since they have a DT role.
On February 11 2012 00:24 Palmar wrote: If he flips town, and not miller, we obviously lynch radfield.
You forget to conveniently mention that if Sheth flips town then both you and Radfield need to be lynched since, as you said,
I can tell you that the people my hits cannot penetrate are listed. The Mafia vet is not among them. It's the same four vets as catwoman and batman cannot hit, along with catwoman and batman themselves.
Which means that if Radfield lied then he is probably mafia and thus your "unblockable" hit should have killed him and since it didn't that you lied about that hit as well. See. Everything is connected lol.
But at this point I'd be fine with lynching you instead of Sheth.
I don't mind it lol, bring it. Though suggesting to lynch me today is a pretty bad suggestion because it doesn't at all deal with the situation at hand and come tomorrow town will still have to deal with it. And if you're mafia then obviously that's bad for town no?
On February 09 2012 22:49 Radfield wrote: I got shot last night.
rgShworz is obviously not Two Face, and in act I'm willing to bet he is not a DT. He claimed a hit, yet no WAY catwoman did not target him last night.
Therefore he is either unkillable by Catwoman, which means he is either one of the vets (Solomon Grundy, Clayface, Bane, and Mr. Freeze) or Poison Ivy; or he himself is catwoman.
Yet he has claimed DT, which means he can only be catwoman out of those options. The Two-Face claim kinda makes sense if he's catwoman, but I can't really wrap my head around it. However his entire role-claim was bizarre(claiming dt out of the blue), which reminds me ALOT of the iGroks early neutral-balrog claim. There was almost no pressure, and he claimed a role which was basically guaranteed to see him killed. If he was bulletproof at night that actually makes sense, as the lynch is the only thing he fears. I still need to think about this, but he's not the lynch today.
We're missing a ton of KP, so it makes sense that if he is catwoman, he might have investigated DocH. Which means it's possible he's not lying, but it sure sounds like bullshit. He should have gotten a role back, not an alignment.
Either way, DocH and Toad seem more than confident enough, and both seem like town. If it comes to name claiming so be it, but I'd rather their identities remain hidden.
In other news, I investigated Sheth last night and he is Tyger
This gives us a whole truckload of info from the Day 1 lynch, because Sheth and CC were neck and neck for a while until CC ran away with it. I haven't looked through it yet, but I assure you scum will fall when I do
##Vote Sheth
On February 09 2012 22:51 Palmar wrote: Radfield, how did you survive? Is it it your role?
I shot you dead good last night. But you're much less dead than I had hoped?
This looks pretty well timed and orchestrated to me. Especially since before this, on that day, you posted things like:
On February 09 2012 21:02 Palmar wrote: I want radfield dead. He seems to care very little about this game. In addition, I think his list during the night is both terrible and incriminating. Also, I think he's scum.
On February 09 2012 19:28 Palmar wrote: @Bugs, what do you think of Radfield, what do you think of me, and what do you think of this whole mess with toad and drh and rgts?
even though you should have already known Radfield was not mafia at that point since, as you said, your shot is unblockable and
On Feb 10 2012 10:22 (57 min) Palmar wrote: Radfield cannot be Red because I hit him. So doing the obvious play is even more obvious.
On February 11 2012 00:22 Palmar wrote: Radfield cannot be Red because I hit him. So doing the obvious play is even more obvious.
I don't get it. You mentioned in your joker claim that you can't instakill vets. Scum has a vet. How do you conclude survived a shot => third. He obviously wouldn't claim vet as scum.
Will read the thread and make a bigger post...
I have the same list of names I cannot kill as appear in Batman's and Catwoman's role. The mafia vet is not in that list.
This is the reason I think it's more likely he's Batman. Batman has nothing to fear from town really, as his main goal is to find and kill Hugo Strange. The Joker is out now. The fact that he had the balls to claim the hit AND the DT check, while refusing to name-claim and knowing no medic would ever claim a protection on him, all points to him being the batman.
Mafia have a roleblocker, a vet and medic powers anyway so they can be as ballsy as they want. In fact this is one of the few games where the mafia can actually even claim DT and also take a hit and not to outted immediately. Adding in DT powers and a GF, mafia are pretty strong this game. Therefore none of these signs point to him as Batman because they could be done by mafia as well. He's definitely not townie so I guess we can agree on that.
do you think I shot Radfield last night?
Do you think him surviving, while also having DT powers is logical scum play?
Or could it be that we're just both telling the truth? He really is the Batman, or a very ballsy Catwoman.
I will die tonight. Batman will shoot me. Please, please, please follow my lead and kill chaoser off instead of sheth.
If you die tonight and flip joker and it shows that your shots work the way you said they do, then I'll buy the whole thing.
If you don't die then I'm going to be skeptical. There are many reasons that I can think of for you surviving though. Either Batman decided not to kill you (stupid play). Or you can't be killed by Batman (aka you're Talia al Ghul). Either way, if you don't die then I will be very suspicious.
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