EPTIvy/Hush protect Jackal58 tonight, he's a confirmed townie, everyone else follow your own reasoning.
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Ivy/Hush protect Jackal58 tonight, he's a confirmed townie, everyone else follow your own reasoning. | ||
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Because I thought CC was scum. | ||
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On February 08 2012 18:22 Tunkeg wrote: And don't worry you are only number 3 on my list, I won't focus on you until at least chaoser is dead and gone away. I'm not worried. I just don't think it was the right move. Lots of townies make bad plans in Mafia games. Sandroba has done it a lot as town. LSB has done it in almost every game as town. Joker claim Day 1 is not the right move for town, it might be a legitimate move later in the game. How this proves I am catwoman to CC or anti-town is beyond me. It would be nice if someone had a logical argument beyond "CC was town therefore his plan is right and anyone who voted for him is scum." Consider also I missed about 8-9 pages of discussion when my internet was turned off and I haven't even read any of Chaosers posts in this thread that I'm aware of. Was he tunneling CC? When I dropped my vote on CC he didn't have a bandwagon started on him really and I didn't make a serious case because I was waiting for him to wake up so he could respond to my pressure, which might have been satisfactory. Anyone who was in the mason group with me can confirm this exact reasoning. When I woke up, I had no internet and couldn't post anything. Bill was paid late and I had to call AT&T. I'm gonna have to read back through those pages and filter out the players that stand out. The question I'm trying to answer looking back is whether mafia split the vote and moved on to CC to protect Sheth or not. | ||
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On February 08 2012 19:14 Tunkeg wrote: LIE!!!! You wrote many times you thought CC was Batman... But I think you are scum and you knew CC was on the townside... I wrote here that I thought he is probably Batman because he didn't roleclaim as a gut reaction 7 minutes before the lynch. I thought that either he was Batman and Scum was trying to get him lynch with toadesstern leading the way or that he was indeed scum and my initial feelings were right. It was a WIFOM situation and I thought it best to vote for him when I did, which was much before the bandwagon on him started. I was not able to even be part of the majority of the discussion that led to this lynch because I had no access to the internet. When I voted for him I thought he was scum or batman, but it was my most confident vote for day 1 besides maybe toadesstern or sheth who I may have changed my vote to if I had a chance to read what was even going on | ||
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I do believe you though, your power seems plausible from what I know. It seems like everybody has a second aspect to their role that is hidden. | ||
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- zsasz in the game, explains the "phone network" flavor I'm guessing the people who got upset about it were town since it's likely mafia already knew about the QT and nobody blew up on me when I mentioned it several times. Need to catch up here, only one two-face can be real. It's probably rG I think. | ||
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On February 09 2012 08:27 evantrees wrote: Started with some simpler stuff to respond to, posted then went to read the QT. "evantrees has been even more quiet than usual." I feel like I have had less to complain about, trying to do less of that anyways, after some comments from L think it was postgame. Catwoman if you would be so kind as to let our DT live a little while, this mess will probably continue giving you a chance to hide, go look for the penguin at this rate two face will probably be dead when you get back. Can we strongly consider lynching the next person to claim without a damned reason? Palmer who was in the lead for dumbest post when cheese was lynched? The deadline is 1 Kst. Slardar what part of "unless a role states otherwise." don't you get. "DT is also a self-confirmable role and difficult to pull off as mafia" DT not as hard to fake when they have one of their own is it? DT is the riskiest role to fake because while you can check your own guys, you end up having to hand over your scumbuddies. Faking DT actually benefits the town on some level and no good town player is stupid enough to be fooled by that, although they'll gladly take the free scum lynches. | ||
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On February 09 2012 09:11 VisceraEyes wrote: Well, this has certainly been a Sheth's complete absence absolutely solidifies my read on him, and unless some darling vig has done the job for me, I'm making it my duty to see him hang tomorrow if I survive the night. Take a look at his previous games guys, he's WAAAAAAY more active than this as town, and all the crazy shit that's gone on today would NOT have gone without comment from townSheth. He gotta HANG bro, and whoever doesn't think so is fucking SCUM and will be treated as such. Night ends in a few hours, and because I'll probably die to some idiot town vig (thanks Palmar/Rad -.-) make sure he gets his daily dose of fiber if you please. Others who need to taste of the delicious rope: Katina - Still have no idea who Katina thinks is scum. She's popped in to toss in a comment or two during the shennanies, but interestingly no comment on who should hang or why. DocH - Actively opposed my Sheth lynch. Why? Because he was scumhunting THIRD PARTY. We should be aiming for scum guys, every lynch we have needs to be aiming for SCUM. We have to kill SCUM to win. If DocH (or anyone for that matter) honestly thought C_C was 3rd party, your asses should have been on the Sheth lynch. hiro protagonist - this guy....yup. I think this guy is scum. I'm ready to "pull the trigger" (quotes indicating that this is NOT a soft-claim of any kind) on a hiro lynch. He's my weakest read of the 4 I'm ready to lynch, though...mainly based on the LOOOOOW content. To clear things up, I thought C_C was scum up until 5 minutes before the deadline and because my internet was out I didn't even have the opportunity to read anything regarding the Sheth lynch who was already on my list of suspicious parties, just a bit under Cyber_Cheese at the time. The fact that I was only able to apply reasoning that was 10 or 15 pages in the past definitely set me back. I lost time and that definitely affected how I voted. If I thought a player was CW and I didn't already have my vote on them (which was placed because I thought they were scum) and there was actually time before the deadline, I would switch and encourage others to do so as well. This is not the case. I was the person who said even IF WE FIND Catwoman 100% we should not lynch her, something that others called me scum for saying because that's an "anti-town" motive somehow. Anyway, I hope that clears it up. I don't know which page I explain the time loss on but I believe it was in response to Jay or Tunkeg, you can find it a page or two after the night post. Also why call out hiro for his low content instead of other players who are not contributing? Why is hiro so scummy that you'd like to "pull the trigger" but not OpZ, Kenpachi, or the other guy whose name starts with a T (don't even remember, he defended me at one point though). | ||
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On February 09 2012 09:16 layabout wrote: As mafia, i would almost certainly pretend to have not known about the QT, since mafia 99% about the QT, openly complaining about it being hidden from you seems like a cheap way to buy town cred. Nobody in town should be openly speculating about who they think the town blues are when the non-town players are deciding who to shoot. Seems like you'd say "There's a mason qt? Why has no one mentioned this guys explain" instead of "wow you're scum or fuck BC this game this shit isn't in the rules blahblahblah" Mafia pay more attention to the rules and details than anybody. Anything is WIFOM if you read into it enough. | ||
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On February 09 2012 15:51 rgTheSchworz wrote: I investigated Dr. H last Night. Got guilty as expected. I honestly dont know why they didn t kill me or RB me or why I am still alive now. Will be posting more after 6 h or so. Really? Why don't you tell me which role instead of which alignment. | ||
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So if there are hidden mechanics in this game I can only assume that there is a chance two-faces check returns the wrong alignment. BC did confirm to me just now in PM that there is zero chance any DT check will return the wrong role so unless two-face is an alignment cop I can only assume he is lying or that BC is lying to me. I don't appreciate bastard mods so I really hope the latter isn't true. | ||
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BC also confirmed that there are no outside influences that could change the result of a check on me (framing power). If I'm wrong about any of this BC pleas So as far as I see it there are only two possibilities. rGTheSchworz is lying or rGTheScworz is insane. | ||
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On February 09 2012 16:16 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Alright, BC also says that no mechanics of a persons own role will be hidden from them. Meaning if you are an insane DT you would know it. Is there any chances that your checks are not completely reliable rG? BC also confirmed that there are no outside influences that could change the result of a check on me (framing power). If I'm wrong about any of this BC please correct me. So as far as I see it there are only two possibilities. rGTheSchworz is lying or rGTheScworz is insane. EBWODP | ||
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