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evantrees
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada497 Posts
February 18 2012 12:10 GMT
#3764
Was working off the posted riddler role pm plus stuff kita has posted. I did ask if I could post that I had escaped.

The game goes on even though the riddler is dead.
Will it kill anyone I'm doubtful, but should we waste a chance at kp hitting suspected scum by lynching them beforehand is my problem. We have alot of day left so let's try and find the other two.

until then sure ##vote RayzorFlash


Right that's what I should have done, gone over the voting unvoting.
On February 18 2012 20:28 Forumite wrote:
Votes Day 3, including chagned votes
+ Show Spoiler +
- rgTheSchworz - 0
Jayjay54
Bill Murray
Forumite
Radfield


- Bill Murray - 0
Kurumi
-_-Quails


- Evantrees - 0
Radfield
Tunkeg
Kurumi
Toadesstern
Palmar
Chaoser
Adam4167
layabout


- Risk.nuke - 0
Jayjay54


- Tyrran - 1
layabout
Bill Murray


- Tunkeg - 0
Katina


- hiro protagonist - 1
jaybrundage
Jayjay54


- Radfield - 9
Forumite
Tunkeg
Palmar
Toadesstern
Kurumi
jaybrundage
-_-Quails
RayzorFlash
Katina
Adam4167
Adam4167
jaybrundage


- Palmar - 1
layabout
Radfield
Toadesstern
Jayjay54
VisceraEyes
RayzorFlash
hiro protagonist


- Forumite - 1
risk.nuke
rgTheSchworz


- rayzorflash - 2
kitaman27
risk.nuke
layabout
chaoser
VisceraEyes
Adam4167


- Chaoser - 6
Kitaman27
risk.nuke
Radfield
RayzorFlash
VisceraEyes
Evantrees


Rayzorflash and Evantrees looks Scum

Katina looks Town.

I´ll back off from rg for now, but from this I think the lynch should be between either RayzorFlash or Evantrees for their last desperate defence of Radfield.

Not a good sign when my first thought about that is wait what? Time to go to sleep.

On February 14 2012 08:47 evantrees wrote:
I will claim if I have to, but I would rather not give scum that information unless absolutely necessary.

I would rather try to force mafia/third parties to resolve the radfield/palmer nonsense. while we try to get rid of deadshot/hugo.

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On February 14 2012 07:10 Kurumi wrote:
On February 14 2012 07:01 Jayjay54 wrote:
well I have caught up again and honestly don't know what to make out of this situation.

I don't feel comfortable lynching a DT who gave us a scum d2 right now, although the lurker fraction around hiro and chaoser made the choice a little harder.

Right now, I'd keep Rad alive and hope that he gives another read the next dawn or at least draws a RB:

I also reconsidered my Kurumi / Palmar third read and have revisited the though of both Palmar and Rad being third.

Toad this is probably your last day But I guess that's kinda in the calculation right now.

Who to lynch now? I don't know how much weight I put into the whole "he voted sheth d1, he's not scum" argumentation. Both of my strongest scum reads nuke and hiro voted him. The other read I had, is chaoser (since rg fakeclaimed once more) voted CC.

I'll vote hiro. One of my biggest scumreads due his play being 100% different from his blue play in L. He stepped up out of the lurker cave and pushed against Palmar. Maybe this lynch can provide information on Rad and also hopefully hit a scum.

##vote Hiro Protagonist

Sorry I seem confused, but that's how this day has made me feel. I guess scum succeeded in spreading confusion. At least with me. I'll be on for another hour before I go to sleep and hopefully wake up to see a on spot lynch...

Hiro is fine
How did a vet die from one shot ?

This bugged me as well I keep forgetting to ask this, for instance when I was complaining about nonsense from sorry RayzorFlash.

Could batman/catwoman have killed Ra's al ghul with one shot despite it taking two shots to kill Solomon Grundy, Clayface, Bane, and Mr. Freeze.

That and going along with kita because he wanted to shoot people is a last desperate defence of Radfield?

True I didn't see too much harm in waiting a day to see if scum would shoot radfield.
Lynching radfield was best case lynch a roleblocker worst case lynch a DT.
rejection and peace tiramisu. I think that went well.
evantrees
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada497 Posts
February 19 2012 06:39 GMT
#3773
More than half the day is done where are all our other townies.

@RayzorFlash
Thinking chaoser is scum, wanting to give a potential dt another day and having no problem with us getting more kp.
The middle part makes my reason pointless and weak?

Wrong list, because you(well ico) were voting for cheese and I know I'm not scum, but yes I am on that list as well.
As for the distancing nonsense hmm have to take a look at Radfields filter again..

On February 18 2012 22:18 Forumite wrote:
Evantrees, without previously (having?) voted you went for Chaoser very late in the day, helping to build the alternative bandwagon. It was clear for a long time that it would be between Chaoser and Radfield, and that it wouldn´t take many votes to shift the lynch to Chaoser instead. It was at that time that Kitaman told everyone to vote Chaoser, and you, RayzorFlash and 2 confirmed scum immediately joined the alternative bandwagon in order to save Radfield. Furthermore you and RayzorFlash were secondary candidates that day, RayzorFlash due to Kitaman pointing him out, and you earlier when Radfield built a weak case on you, yet no other scum jumped on it, making it look like a distancing rather than a serious attempt to get you lynched. We know that the bandwagon on you early Day 4 was started by Radfield, and no other scum were on it. That doesn´t speak in your favor either.

Thinking about it, RayzorFlash looks way better than Evantrees. RayzorFlash was voted on due to Kitaman, and changed to Chaoser after Kitaman asked him, while Evantrees got attention when a confirmed scum tried to distance himself from him with a weak case based on "His filter says nothing".

##unvote RayzorFlash
##vote Evantrees

I was yes undecided on the radfield stuff and I did think chaoser was scum mostly for a stupid reason it seems.

On February 10 2012 08:38 evantrees wrote:
Kurumi I like you for some damned reason.

Show nested quote +
On February 10 2012 08:21 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
On February 10 2012 08:10 Kurumi wrote:
Also Viscera, WBG is voting me because I accussed him of being scum day 1 and actually was right, but Sheth made puppy eyes and I doubted my ability to play this game.
Fuck puppy eyes

Can't wait for my flip. I can't even argue my way out of this because of the sheer mass of people just saying kill me. I'm collecting what reads I have and will submit them right before I die.


Unless BC randomly cut the day length in half I'm pretty sure you have more than 24 hours still, why wait to post them, to make sure they are non missed just repost them all before the lynch.

Which players do you think are hurting town the most?
Too much spam!

Which players do you think are pushing a scum agenda?
chaoser, he was anyways.

Which players do you think are scum?
chaoser


On February 12 2012 13:12 evantrees wrote:
I think Chaoser is scum, but that may just be me being bitter.
The two main reasons I voted for Cyber_Cheese on day 1, Believing sheth and this. Was rather up in the air about who to vote for.
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On February 08 2012 11:53 chaoser wrote:
Kurumi, I'm here defending myself and actually caring. C_C isn't even here talking.


On January 11 2011 18:06 Ace wrote:
kudos to Nemesis and chaoser for being clutch and not thinking like idiots.

Also for future reference of why I believed Subversion had to be Scum:

On January 10 2011 07:34 Ace wrote:
I'll believe Nemesis over an absent player.


Why would you side with someone that isn't even defending himself?

On January 10 2011 11:52 Ace wrote:
Sometimes it's just better to think of a simple answer. You have no idea what the Mafia know and don't know their motives. Hence it's just a simple decision on who is more believable here.


Stop WIFOMing yourself. This was a really simple decision but you got caught up in stuff that really made no sense. Trying to find out who is the other Scum before getting on with the current lynch was a bad idea.


Word



On February 19 2012 04:45 Katina wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2012 19:40 Jayjay54 wrote:
On February 18 2012 19:25 evantrees wrote:
DAY 1 Lynch Vote list
+ Show Spoiler +
Liquid`sheth - 7

hiroprotagonist
katina
Forumite
Palmar
radfield
Visceraeyes
tunkeg



Cyber_cheese - 12

Toadesstern
drH

slardar
ico/rayzorflash
tyrran
wbg
chaoser
liquid`sheth
jackal
opz
evantrees
billmurray

Kurumi – 1

Layabout

-_-quails – 2

rgtheschworz
kurumi

ico – 2

kitaman
adam4167

toadesstern – 2

Kenpachi
Risk.nuke

DrH – 2

Jayjay54
cyber_cheese

Chaoser – 1

Tobberoth

didn't vote
jaybrundage and someone else.


Day 3 Lynch Vote list
+ Show Spoiler +

Radfield - 9

Forumite
tunkeg
Toadesstern
-_-quails
palmar
adam4167
katina
kurumi
jaybrundage

Palmar - 1

hiro protagonist

Forumite - 1

rgtheschworz


chaoser - 6

Risk.nuke
radfield
ico/rayzorflash
kitaman
evantrees
Visceraeyes

hiro protagonist - 1

jayjay54

ico/rayzorflash - 3

Layabout
Chaoser

tyrran - 1

billmurray



posting list evantrees? now? really?

He's been posting lists all game, that's half the reason I thought he was suspicious the other day. The other half is because he posts gems like this:
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On February 18 2012 19:54 evantrees wrote:
I'm an idiot................. unsure what I should do about that as of yet.(posted in votethread by mistake)

Have to start somewhere(also look a few posts up), to an extent solidifies my opinion on rayzorflash being scum, kind of doubting only two scum voted for cheese but it is possible I suppose.

We have to lynch/shoot 3 scum there is no great need to start with those who just might die to riddler from beyond the grave. That said I kind of doubt rayzorflash will end up dieing to riddler tonight.

What opinion that rayzorflash is scum? You haven't given any opinion about him this game (or really anyone for that matter). This is the first time you've said anything concrete about him. The lack of consistency in your posting is incredibly noticeable. I don't mind people posting lists but you are sure posting a lot of them.

##Vote: evantrees

I'm also curious why you think he might survive the Riddler game. It seems silly to me to lynch him when he might end up dying anyway (I think he's suspicious so I want him dead too). It does not look like there is a way to survive the Riddler game, and the mafia medic is dead anyways.

I agree it is somewhat silly but pointing that out makes forumite think I'm scummy apparently.
As for the lists I have to start somewhere, and as usual was not too sure how to contribute.

Riddlers role pm.
With an obsessive-compulsive need for attention, Edward Nigma is determined to be the cleverest of Gotham City’s criminals, plotting elaborate trails of clues and riddles around his crimes. Batman has proved to be a worthy opponent and after thwarting the riddlers efforts on arkham island, he is back to prove himself the most intelligent. Beginning day 1 you must give the host 1 of 2 of the following options.

Give the names of 6 people. Over the course of 3 game days, these players are given riddles (you provide each).

On the first two nights the first person to correctly answer the riddle is safe from death and removed from the riddle game. On the last night the first two people to correctly answer the riddle are safe from the riddle game as well. The final two are killed.

Second option. Choose 8 people. Over the course of 4 game days these players are given riddles (you provide each). On the first three nights the first person to correctly answer the riddle is safe and removed from the riddle game. On the last night the first two people to correctly submit the answer are safe and the remaining three are killed.

Roleblocks do not stop your power, nor does you being eliminated. The game must go on.
rejection and peace tiramisu. I think that went well.
evantrees
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada497 Posts
February 19 2012 11:49 GMT
#3784
I suppose I should claim now before I go to bed then?

On February 19 2012 11:03 Adam4167 wrote:
evantrees

I spent 45 minutes writing a case about how I believe Jackal shot at evantrees N1 and Hugo intercepted the shot, and while I still believe that to be the case, it came down to largely speculation without concrete proof.

Instead, lets just look in evantrees filter. One thing that stood out to me straight away is this quote
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2012 20:20 evantrees wrote: and why am I still up I don't know.

which comes from this post, link.

This is a guilty mind. You expected to die, yet you didn't, and you're surprised.

This, in addition to what Katina, Forumite and RayzorFlash have pointed out is enough to seal the deal for me.

and why am I still up I don't know.
It was 6 something am. like when I am posting this and have still not gone to sleep.

This is a guilty mind. You expected to die, yet you didn't, and you're surprised.
where did this come from exactly, misunderstanding what I was refering to there?

But yes I was kind of expecting to be shot by jackal given this post and my guess at how his role worked thanks to a video DocH posted. Almost wish he had, would have saved me from a bunch of nonsense.
On February 08 2012 03:10 Jackal58 wrote:
A wild Chaoser appears!!!!!!!
Being stalked by a wild Tobberoth!!!!!!

People I have played with that need to post more:
risk.nuke
~OpZ~
Your inactivity makes me nervous.

People I don't know or don't know well that haven't posted jack shit:
Slardar
Tobberoth
jaybrundage
Tyrran
ico
evantrees
Katina
Adam4167

evantrees is scum.

Show nested quote +
On February 06 2012 18:23 evantrees wrote:
Are all the town vigs oneshot?


That's a scum question.

However jackal did post this as well, which may explain why he shot someone else.
On February 07 2012 23:02 Jackal58 wrote:
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On February 07 2012 22:41 Toadesstern wrote:
On February 07 2012 22:31 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
He wasn't defending risk.nuke he was just posting his meta when someone asks. It's not up to him to prove he's town anyway, why don't you post out how he's so terribly scummy? He's scummy for saying nothing? You've said nothing and not only that you've flat out refused to explain your reasoning when asked directly. Apply that logic you're using against layabout to many other players and you'd reach the same conclusion.


yeah but I'd much rather not lynch Radfield d1.
And no if I apply the same logic to other people and barly come to the same conclusion. I'm not done reading everyone's filter so I can't say that for people after #17 inr our list because I haven't reread their filters yet and everything I got on them is a gut feeling.

Why not? If you feel Radfield is scummy why wouldn't you want to lynch him? I see this sentiment posted in almost every game on here now. I don't want to lynch player X on day one. Fair amount of the time that sentiment has been put forth by people that flipped scum. If somebody looks scummy I'm going to push for their lynch. I don't care who it is.
Remember No guts. No gory.
rejection and peace tiramisu. I think that went well.
evantrees
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada497 Posts
February 19 2012 12:11 GMT
#3786
For those complaining about my filter is it any worse or better than my previous two games, I am curious.
This is my third game.
First game Election Mafia as an Announcer
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=291720&user=78429
second game TL Mafia L as a VT
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=253716&user=78429

Adam is coming across a bit scummy to me. But in general I am too damned unsure on the 3 scum in the 7.
But for now lets say my list is.

rgtheschworz
RayzorFlash
Adam4167


On February 18 2012 18:18 Adam4167 wrote:
Do you think BM was trolling when he announced he took a hit on N1? Did we ever solve that?

This feels too much like scum asking if there is another medic out there to me.

Out of curiousity Adam4167 why do you think this late you will be shot by scum over -_-quails the confirmed townie?

Reading radfields filter I was getting a little less suspicious of rayzorflash then this pops up.
On February 14 2012 06:16 Radfield wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2012 06:00 Tunkeg wrote:
On February 14 2012 05:59 Tunkeg wrote:
Hmmm, I don't know if I should get cold feets or what but it looks like it is the newer players + Forumite + 3rd party that is on the Radfield lynch.

Does this mean that:

a) We are getting properly manipulated by Palmar and Kurumi?
b) We are on the right track as some of the more experienced players would jumped all over this if they were Radfield were town and they were scum.


EBWOP:

Hmmm, I don't know if I should get cold feets or what but it looks like it is the newer players + Forumite + 3rd party that is on the Radfield lynch.

Does this mean that:

a) We are getting properly manipulated by Palmar and Kurumi?
b) We are on the right track as some of the more experienced players would have jumped all over this if they were scum and Radfield were town.


Smart scum are smart. Lynching me is dumb. End of story.

Show nested quote +
On February 14 2012 06:03 kitaman27 wrote:
On February 14 2012 05:58 Radfield wrote:
Actually, this is why I thought that:

Kitaman Wrote: The notion that Radfield is a town detective is pretty funny.

The scum team decides to leave Radfield, the town detective, alive and unblocked? lolol
He won't give his name until he is sure nobody else will claim it? lolol
His check just happens to be on the guy that died? lolol
He just happens to take a mysterious hit and survive by medic protection? lolol
He roleclaims after one check, making him useless for the rest of the game? lolol

Third party or scum, I don't trust him. Consider his motivations. Palmar is obviously being extremely anti-town as well.


What happened Kita, got cold feet? From what I can see there you should be dead set on lynching me, yet now you are pushing to keep me alive. Care to explain?


I just don't buy that your Calendar Man (I'm still not sure that he is even a real batman villian :p).

Just because I think you're likely black, doesn't mean we can't coexist as long as you're benefiting town as well. I'm looking for red

What do you think about my case on Rayzor?



I think it's pretty sound, and I think there is a decent chance ico/Rayzor will flip scum. When Ico voted for CC, Sheth was actually leading 5-4, which ties him directly to Sheth. Ico/Rayzor is number six on the list of 5 that I mentioned earlier: Chaoser, Tyran, opz, WBG, evantrees. I left him off because he voted quite a bit earlier in the day, but in retrospect I shouldn't have.

I'm doing dinner and then going curling. I expect to no longer be leading the lynch when I get back.
rejection and peace tiramisu. I think that went well.
evantrees
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada497 Posts
February 19 2012 12:55 GMT
#3793
I'll ask this a touch more directly
I suppose I should claim now before I go to bed then?

Should I claim before I go to sleep or when I wakeup?
rejection and peace tiramisu. I think that went well.
evantrees
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada497 Posts
February 19 2012 14:54 GMT
#3799
I am Bane the vet and I have done a terrible job with it, I am sorry for that.

Still terrible at trying to get shot by scum,and contributing in general.

Also sorry I don't have anything extra role related to contribute.

forumite Penguin Risk DTed +other stuff
-_-qualis Risk DTed

Evantrees

So who are we lynching today

RayzorFlash
jaybrundage
Jayjay54
rgtheschworz
Katina
Adam4167
Hiro Protagonist

These two might still die to the riddler, not sure if that should affect our decision.
rayzorflash
jaybrundage

Goodnight. er morning whatever going to sleep.
rejection and peace tiramisu. I think that went well.
evantrees
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada497 Posts
February 19 2012 21:53 GMT
#3830
On February 20 2012 00:48 Forumite wrote:
Veteran and useless detectives are popular scumclaims, just like Radfield claimed useless detective, Evantrees claims useless powerrole. I think we can test this however, we simply lynch someone else, then I shoot Evantrees tonight. If he dies then he´s scum or liar, if he survives then he must be Town, because scum don´t have any roleblocks or Medics left. Sure, he loses the point of being a veteran when he takes a bullet, but he won´t attract bullets anyway, so I might as well confirm a Townie instead of shooting into the dark. If I shoot Bane then at worst he dies anyway to scum.

Thoughts?

Was considering proposing this in the same post as claiming specifically saying.

If you still don't believe I am town come the night forumite can shoot me, and we can get rid of the suspiscion without actually losing a townie. Not as good as actually shooting scum however. An added bonus town is less likely to be stuck with me till the end.

On February 20 2012 05:07 jaybrundage wrote:
Im Bane.


I got hit last night.

Ballsy move from scum. But its a bullshit claim.

We should lynch him today.

##Vote: Evantrees

But this pretty much seals the deal for me.

Really jaybrundage.

Are you that certain that the riddler is going to kill you?
That's my best guess as to why the counterclaim which bugs me in itself.

##vote jaybrundage
rejection and peace tiramisu. I think that went well.
evantrees
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada497 Posts
February 19 2012 22:12 GMT
#3837
On February 20 2012 06:52 Jayjay54 wrote:
if solomon killed VE and palmar shot JB instead of VE....then it would work out...

but palmar said a billion times how he would shoot VE

Palmer also seems to generally dislike VE a bit.

I find this funny so felt the need to post it sorry. Not certain how much if at all his opinion has changed since then.
From Election Mafia.
On December 14 2011 23:48 Arctocod wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 22:47 kitaman27 wrote:
Nisani201 has been replaced by VisceraEyes


For the love of god.

If we have a vigilante, just shoot this guy. Please, please, please don't allow him to play.

On December 15 2011 02:52 Arctocod wrote:
VE that was obviously palmar and I apologize on his behalf

/syllogism
rejection and peace tiramisu. I think that went well.
evantrees
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada497 Posts
February 20 2012 00:13 GMT
#3882
Hurray for more humor, and me not having to spell that out myself.

On February 20 2012 08:57 Adam4167 wrote:
Your reaction is all wrong... Id be screaming from the rooftops how dirty evantrees is

You've just found a scum, 100%, hes claimed YOUR role and you know hes lying.

Instead you are focusing on why your alibi is solid.

On that note I'll try and put together a case on him, I definitely need the practice.

On February 20 2012 08:44 jaybrundage wrote:
I dont get. What have i done that was so scummy. I tried to push my best scum reads. I have tried to look for scum.

Do you guys really assume that i would make up a hit for no reason? I dont get it.

Perhaps hugo saved you from a hit and you are trying to get the vig on your side, by saying thats why you survived.
Whatever WIFOM nonsense.

At the very least you are lieing about being Bane right now.
Lieing to town this late seems like good reason to lynch you to me.

and after posting this....
On February 14 2012 00:05 jaybrundage wrote:
SO i suggest we enforce a Lynch All Liars Policy.

And then proceed to LYNCH THE FUCKEN HELL OUT OF PALMAR!


Comon Layabout isn't this the best plan ever :D

rejection and peace tiramisu. I think that went well.
evantrees
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada497 Posts
February 20 2012 16:35 GMT
#3928
On February 20 2012 20:49 Forumite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2012 20:20 Adam4167 wrote:
But do you understand what I'm saying? You seem pretty undecided on who the last scum is, as is everyone else. I think Forumite is the most experienced and has played the best out of all of us, thus I would prefer he takes the hard decision and leaves town with the easy one.

I´d prefer if you didn´t rely so heavily on me. I was in the Team Fortress game where there were 5 Town and one Scum in the end, and I lead town through 2 mislynches and lost us the game. Things like that doesn´t make me very confident being Town leader. Also I´m dead tomorrow, barring Medic assistance, so this is probably my last night in the game.

Right now I´m choosing between killing Hiro or shooting Evantrees to confirm him as Town. I´m suspecting that Jaybrundage tried to get one of him and Evantrees confirmed Town, in response to everyone wanting to lynch Evantrees despite his Veteran-claim. The thing is, I´m probably wasting a kill, but if it was a trick, which I think it was, then this shot is the only way that we´re going to know without killing him. I think I´d rather confirm Evantrees and make sure that it wasn´t a crazy setup, and leave you to lynch Hiro tomorrow.

There have been 3 vigilantes, one detective and one medic, I doubt this game would include all 4 veterans.

Evantrees, did you breadcrumb your role anywhere? Is there any reason why we shouldn´t shoot you to confirm you as Town for everyone?

There have been 3 vigilantes, one detective and one medic, I doubt this game would include all 4 veterans.
Part of why I think rgtheschworz is scum.

Is there any reason why we shouldn´t shoot you to confirm you as Town for everyone?
It's not shooting scum.
You could shoot rgtheschworz to do something similar but I think he would actually flip scum.

Evantrees, did you breadcrumb your role anywhere?
No unless you want to count this, saw very little reason outing a vet would help town at that point.
On February 14 2012 08:47 evantrees wrote:
I will claim if I have to, but I would rather not give scum that information unless absolutely necessary.

I would rather try to force mafia/third parties to resolve the radfield/palmer nonsense. while we try to get rid of deadshot/hugo.

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On February 14 2012 07:10 Kurumi wrote:
On February 14 2012 07:01 Jayjay54 wrote:
well I have caught up again and honestly don't know what to make out of this situation.

I don't feel comfortable lynching a DT who gave us a scum d2 right now, although the lurker fraction around hiro and chaoser made the choice a little harder.

Right now, I'd keep Rad alive and hope that he gives another read the next dawn or at least draws a RB:

I also reconsidered my Kurumi / Palmar third read and have revisited the though of both Palmar and Rad being third.

Toad this is probably your last day But I guess that's kinda in the calculation right now.

Who to lynch now? I don't know how much weight I put into the whole "he voted sheth d1, he's not scum" argumentation. Both of my strongest scum reads nuke and hiro voted him. The other read I had, is chaoser (since rg fakeclaimed once more) voted CC.

I'll vote hiro. One of my biggest scumreads due his play being 100% different from his blue play in L. He stepped up out of the lurker cave and pushed against Palmar. Maybe this lynch can provide information on Rad and also hopefully hit a scum.

##vote Hiro Protagonist

Sorry I seem confused, but that's how this day has made me feel. I guess scum succeeded in spreading confusion. At least with me. I'll be on for another hour before I go to sleep and hopefully wake up to see a on spot lynch...

Hiro is fine
How did a vet die from one shot ?

This bugged me as well I keep forgetting to ask this, for instance when I was complaining about nonsense from sorry RayzorFlash.

Could batman/catwoman have killed Ra's al ghul with one shot despite it taking two shots to kill Solomon Grundy, Clayface, Bane, and Mr. Freeze.

Maybe a touch too focused on vets here.

On February 12 2012 15:24 evantrees wrote:
Two dead vets strange night.

Ok now I think he might be scum, will have to check the filters though.

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On February 12 2012 15:07 RayzorFlash wrote:
On February 12 2012 14:57 rgTheSchworz wrote:
DrH was doublestacked. He s freaking clayface he needs 2 shots.
Who vigged WBG?
CW/BM didn t shoot WBG.
Look at what he posts. He sticks to Kurumi and Rad/Me.He defo wanst Joker or any kind of vig/DT. More scum than anythig else. Kurumi s town btw, there s no way these 2 are scum together.
Maybe Rad killed him, I would assume that only if Rad does not post his check or posts that he checked a completely random townie.


WBG, as Ra's, needed either 2 shots or 1 unblockable shot
, as such it seems most likely that it was a Batman/Catwoman hit, because I don't think two vigs would have both gone after him...


Um what? Looks like he started as a plain VET+DT to me, If he took a hit already and was being protected that would be the case. Was he already hit scummy bugger?


rejection and peace tiramisu. I think that went well.
evantrees
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada497 Posts
February 20 2012 17:48 GMT
#3930
I agree me and rgtheschworz are not confirmed townies at this point. Sadly in my case.
Not confirmed by a dead dt or a bullet.

On February 20 2012 20:11 Jayjay54 wrote:
that's actually a tough question. And depends a lot on the stuff happening tonight.

If rayzor is still alive, I will start by looking into him. Because he'd be the most scummy alive. If not, we have a good chance to already win the game right now.

I disagreed with an evantrees lynch pretty long, but there flips happened, the more he rose. Now the claim. Still not sure what I think about that. Somehow I am suspicious.

katina flies under the radar all game long. Still most of her decisions were town favored. Seems towny. But then again, the scum team was a huge bus company this game...

Another thought I have is that deadpool is still out there. I expect hiro to flip deadpool. If that's not the case, because I don't believe the important vig role went to some random lurker. You might actually be a good candidate for that...Would you consider evantrees an experienced player?

If hiro flips scum which I am doubting at the moment. I don't see him flipping deadshot after this post.
On February 17 2012 19:35 VisceraEyes wrote:
You should not be shooting me tonight. You should be shooting hiro protagonist or JayBrundage tonight.

saving the godfather by sacrificing two scum maybe, a kp as well I really don't see it. It's a good part of why they want to keep the godfather around.
JayBrundage also had that riddler death sentence on his head as a reason for scum to be bussing him a bit.

Don't know about anyone else but I don't consider myself an experienced player.
I though you might have been a vet in L but that was your first game wasn't it?

This is my third game.
First game Election Mafia as an Announcer
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=291720&user=78429
second game TL Mafia L as a VT
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=253716&user=78429
before joining Election I had read through mini mafia x and the first PYP.
rejection and peace tiramisu. I think that went well.
evantrees
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada497 Posts
February 20 2012 18:16 GMT
#3932
No I think rgTheSchworz is scum which is why I brought him up.

Also this, he supposedly can still take an extra hit.
On February 17 2012 00:24 rgTheSchworz wrote:
No, I still have my second Life.
If he wastes it by shooting, it both leaves Hugo and Deadshot live a night longer, Extra KP for scum, and it wastes my life for nothing.

rejection and peace tiramisu. I think that went well.
evantrees
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada497 Posts
February 20 2012 19:13 GMT
#3934
Defense not really I'm fine with you shotting me but shooting scum is probably a better option, if we have a good target.

sorry not the best quote to have given you it seems.
On February 17 2012 01:14 rgTheSchworz wrote:
I was medic protected. I still have my second life.


first mention of medic protection
On February 09 2012 15:53 rgTheSchworz wrote:
And I was protected by a generous medic.

On February 09 2012 15:53 rgTheSchworz wrote:
Because I took a hit
rejection and peace tiramisu. I think that went well.
evantrees
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada497 Posts
February 20 2012 19:38 GMT
#3935
hmm there is another possibility.
rejection and peace tiramisu. I think that went well.
evantrees
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada497 Posts
February 21 2012 03:52 GMT
#3982
Not sure how I should feel about katina in my place on that list.
and there being a spot missing.

Solomon Grundy role description.
+ Show Spoiler +

Over a century ago, murderer Cyrus Gold sought to escape justice by hiding in the Slaughter Swamp, where he met a fate worse than death. Mysterious forces doomed the now immortal Grundy to and endless cycle of death and rebirth. Robbed of his memories he has adopted the name of a nursery rhyme.
“Solomon Grundy, Born on a Monday, Christened on Tuesday, Married on Wednesday, Took ill on Thursday, Grew worse on Friday, Died on Saturday, Buried on Sunday. This is the end of Solomon Grundy”
You are the bodyguard of penguin and protect him should he be hit from an attack. You are also extremely strong. You have the option of two powers. Bulletproof for a night or revenge killer(you kill the first person who attacks you in a night)
. Once your power has been expended (you have been hit on any given night after choosing which power to use) you are powerless and can die to a regular hit on any subsequent nights. Much like the rhyme your name comes from, if you survive a full seven days after your first hit, your powers refresh..

May be that rgTheSchworz has something like that but faster, and without the fun counter attacking option.
On February 13 2012 03:27 rgTheSchworz wrote:
Yes mods don t inform you that medic did protect you, only that you took a hit.
Thats how laya and me deduced that we ve been medic protected.


On February 13 2012 03:39 rgTheSchworz wrote:
Well, thing is, normally on TL medic protection are announced, aren´t they?
The fact that he said
Show nested quote +
i took a hit last night
my role would not allow me to survive said hit.

what i would then conclude:
i must have been medic protected (but i have not been told that directly)


shows that he did get hit.
I searched the thread for similar information that you don t get the announcement that you ve been protected by a medic.Nada

If Bugs was killed in one night, which is so if none of our Vigis claim, then laya´s statement must be true?
Or BM and Laya are scum together and BM is Hugo.

Thing about the PM s coming in late seems weird.
Also why BM would protect laya?
Who then protected me?
the layabout quote he is quoting.
On February 13 2012 01:42 layabout wrote:
the information i have:
i took a hit last night
my role would not allow me to survive said hit.

what i would then conclude:
i must have been medic protected (but i have not been told that directly)




rejection and peace tiramisu. I think that went well.
evantrees
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada497 Posts
February 21 2012 04:00 GMT
#3984
Current reads and sick of trying to looking at filters.
confirmed town
forumite
quails
evantrees

leaning town
hiro protag - going to be a bit mad at him whatever he flips...
Jayjay

unsure
rayzorflash dead tonight hoping scum
katina

scum
rgsworchs
adam4617

and because I feel the need to say it I am not going to believe any medic protection claims by anyone but forumite tomorrow.
rejection and peace tiramisu. I think that went well.
evantrees
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada497 Posts
February 21 2012 04:01 GMT
#3985
Yup terrible at said mission, contributing period early hard enough for me, jackal shooting me would have been helpful.
rejection and peace tiramisu. I think that went well.
evantrees
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada497 Posts
February 21 2012 04:08 GMT
#3987
Elimination + a damned feeling mostly so we shall see what happens today.
rejection and peace tiramisu. I think that went well.
evantrees
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada497 Posts
February 22 2012 03:04 GMT
#4031
Already did that pretty much. spent all but an hour or so of the time from 4 am - 7 pm in bed, asleep mostly I think. Being sick oh what fun.

On February 21 2012 13:25 rgTheSchworz wrote:
Shooting me was the worst thing ever.
I killed Forumite because of my ability.
We are 4vs2 with evan and me confirmed.


On February 21 2012 13:30 rgTheSchworz wrote:
I am assuming evan is town because he claimed Bane and got CC ed.
I think it would make no sense as scum.
JayJay is pretty much scum this game.
Sry,we are actually 3v2.
Doesnt change much. We have to call the team now.

and scum shot hiro because?

its not like forumite said he was going to shoot him or anything.....

##vote rgTheSchworz
rejection and peace tiramisu. I think that went well.
evantrees
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada497 Posts
February 22 2012 05:39 GMT
#4034
On February 21 2012 14:30 Adam4167 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2012 13:00 evantrees wrote:
Current reads and sick of trying to looking at filters.
confirmed town
forumite
quails
evantrees

leaning town
hiro protag - going to be a bit mad at him whatever he flips...
Jayjay

unsure
rayzorflash dead tonight hoping scum
katina

scum
rgsworchs
adam4617

and because I feel the need to say it I am not going to believe any medic protection claims by anyone but forumite tomorrow.



OK. NAP, not buying it. How in the christ could you have a town read on Hiro after his play this game?

I think you and rG are both scum. I can only hope that JayJay and Katina can forgive me for trying to get them vigged.

These are our two scum guys.

On hiro, Can't say I remember my exactly thought process.

How did people have a scum read on him? Being rather useless is hardly unique to him.

I still don't get why people thought scum would defend someone they know is dieing that day or night.

On February 17 2012 19:35 VisceraEyes wrote:
You should not be shooting me tonight. You should be shooting hiro protagonist or JayBrundage tonight.

A good point in his favour to me pretty much guaranteed he wasn't deadshot given the other option is a doomed scum.
VE had been pushing his lynch for a while as well,so seemed likely he was town.
rejection and peace tiramisu. I think that went well.
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