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Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 13 2012 17:10 GMT
#2832
On February 14 2012 02:07 Jayjay54 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2012 02:03 Toadesstern wrote:
yeah they need to RB palmar tonight. They can't RB me even if they want to. And so far I said a lot of things. I said i'm going to shoot hiro, I said I'm going to shoot kita and I said I'm going to shoot you. Nevertheless I think you're mafia right now.

Mafia will not RB me tonight. They're probably going to kill me to reduce town KP.


I am mafia now? Because I voted batman? To save you? Nice.

They will RB you and batman will kill you. Then, and we agree here, he will be helping town A LOT. Batman has 5 cycles to reduce mafia KP.

The question is, if we want to keep batman around or you. There is no other scenario IMO. I'd rather keep you, as you are confirmed town + multivig.


sry that was directed at VE
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 13 2012 17:16 GMT
#2837
On February 14 2012 02:11 VisceraEyes wrote:
Or maybe Toad, MAYBE scum chose to RB someone else. Maybe they RB'd the person they killed...DocH was basically claimed Clayface, maybe they RB'd him to make sure he died? Who the fuck KNOWS why scum didn't RB Rad...but that's not incriminating at ALL in my opinion. Whoever told you that was trying to manipulate you Toad, I promise you. And I just bet it was Palmar wasn't it?


Clayface already took a hit n1. No need to RB him to make sure he dies.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 13 2012 17:22 GMT
#2839
mmh what about lynching hiro instead?
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 13 2012 17:25 GMT
#2843
the only issue I have right now is, that both CW and the Bat are trying to help town right now. At least one of them has to kill 2 blue roles.

Kurumi said several times that he wants me to beg for mercy and Kurumi shot wbg. I really thought it's the other way arround: Kurumi = Bat, Palmar = CW because of that.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 13 2012 17:31 GMT
#2846
On February 14 2012 02:28 Jayjay54 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2012 02:25 Toadesstern wrote:
the only issue I have right now is, that both CW and the Bat are trying to help town right now. At least one of them has to kill 2 blue roles.

Kurumi said several times that he wants me to beg for mercy and Kurumi shot wbg. I really thought it's the other way arround: Kurumi = Bat, Palmar = CW because of that.


didn't palmar say that he couldn't kill rad, because he's talya? I thought the whole point is based on that.

I am pretty certain he's batman.


could be a lie and he dt'ed him. We can't lynch third-party and we need to lynch mafia. I'm just having 2nd thoughts right now :p
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 13 2012 17:32 GMT
#2847
On February 14 2012 02:30 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2012 02:25 Toadesstern wrote:
the only issue I have right now is, that both CW and the Bat are trying to help town right now. At least one of them has to kill 2 blue roles.

Kurumi said several times that he wants me to beg for mercy and Kurumi shot wbg. I really thought it's the other way arround: Kurumi = Bat, Palmar = CW because of that.

I thought You were Penguin. Penguin and bodyguards? Sounds cool.
But then I needed to kill wbg. Because he wanted to hang me.


I'd like you to stfu or you're getting modkilled :p
I wasn't asking you.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 13 2012 17:40 GMT
#2852
On February 14 2012 02:34 Jayjay54 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2012 02:31 Toadesstern wrote:
On February 14 2012 02:28 Jayjay54 wrote:
On February 14 2012 02:25 Toadesstern wrote:
the only issue I have right now is, that both CW and the Bat are trying to help town right now. At least one of them has to kill 2 blue roles.

Kurumi said several times that he wants me to beg for mercy and Kurumi shot wbg. I really thought it's the other way arround: Kurumi = Bat, Palmar = CW because of that.


didn't palmar say that he couldn't kill rad, because he's talya? I thought the whole point is based on that.

I am pretty certain he's batman.


could be a lie and he dt'ed him. We can't lynch third-party and we need to lynch mafia. I'm just having 2nd thoughts right now :p


you really want to do this, don't you? If we lynch scum you are even more dead , but that's a noble sacrifice.

so who do you think? VEs recent posts were bad.


he hasn't posted a lot the last couple of days (RL-days) and now out of nowhere all thoe fancy people come crowling out of nowhere. Also he's better than what did in his most recent posts. I thought he's town early on because he's not trolling at all, tried to play although he posted very little and it looked like he tried.
VE is one of the guys who are quite infamous here and the last couple of games he tried to get rid of that reputation and really showed some good games. He was pretty vocal in all of them and tried to not tunnel.
He's doing that right now and as mentioned he really isn't that bad. I think he's defending his scumbuddies which obviously would make hiro look green right now so I am confused again :p
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 13 2012 17:46 GMT
#2855
However given how much I failed this game I'd like someone else to step up and explain who we should lynch tonight. If I am wrong again I basicly lost the game on my own because I made every townie follow me, which is a nice treat to have but really not if you're wrong.

I am not willing to lynch third party today. We need to lynch mafia. That's all that matters for today.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 13 2012 17:48 GMT
#2858
On February 14 2012 02:44 RayzorFlash wrote:
It does make sense for penguin to have a bodyguard vet too, probably Solomon Grundy (fits game lore/theme)

My problem with a hiro lynch is that even if he is mafia, which i think is decently likely, it gives us next to no real info... I'd rather lynch radfield/palmar... I actually wouldnt mind a palmar lynch just because his posts and claims have started to give me.a headache,lol...

##vote: Radfield

the fuck?
it's 15v5 and you don't want to lynch a mafia because lynching someone else is probably going to give more information?
You say you wouldn't mind lynching palmar but voted radfield?
+ Show Spoiler +
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 13 2012 17:53 GMT
#2860
I'm going to sheep forumite. Get in this thread
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 13 2012 18:11 GMT
#2874
Radfield it is. The mighty forumite has spoken.
This gives us tons of information. Palmar has no reason to lie about this if he's third party unless he's CW and found out rad is a protected Two-Face like I used to be a protected Joker. But even in that scenario he's risking that mafia will win before he can find a protected penguin.
If that's the case Kurumi should at least know that himself because at least he should know himself if he's CW or Batman although he's not allowed to tell us. He's not against a Radfield lynch = I like. Sure he would not be allowed to tell us that but he for sure would make up some weird shit to get us off Radfield.

The only scenario that is really bad for us is if both Palmar and Kurumi end up being mafia imo. I don't really see that happening.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 13 2012 18:19 GMT
#2879
Not to mention that all those lurkers comming out of nowhere really looks weird. I don't think that if Mafia-Palmar would get us on a wrong track suddenly out of nowhere a shitload of people would crowl in this thread to tell us how bad this is. Not after 2 days of massive fail and noone unlurking.
That really looks like mafia forming up to win this game.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 13 2012 18:27 GMT
#2886
There's just no way it's going to be Kurumi + Palmar + WBG + forumite + chaoser

Two vets or at least people who are pretty good will end up being being 3rd party imo. Actually killing the blue roles is not that hard but figuring them out is.

So we've got Radfield, Kita, forumite, Palmar, Kurumi and Chaoser. 3 of them want to lynch Radfield. That's good enough for me. Actually Kita wants to lynch Rad as well doesn't he?
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 13 2012 18:29 GMT
#2888
On February 14 2012 03:23 hiro protagonist wrote:
I was hoping to continue my "only vote for scum" streak this game, but I think I will vote for "person that I used to look up to and now cant stand very much anymore"

##Vote: Palmar

Palmar, I very much hope your scum/3rd party, because then the bullshit you have been pulling off makes sense. If your town, that makes me very sad


what I said here:
On February 14 2012 02:48 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2012 02:44 RayzorFlash wrote:
It does make sense for penguin to have a bodyguard vet too, probably Solomon Grundy (fits game lore/theme)

My problem with a hiro lynch is that even if he is mafia, which i think is decently likely, it gives us next to no real info... I'd rather lynch radfield/palmar... I actually wouldnt mind a palmar lynch just because his posts and claims have started to give me.a headache,lol...

##vote: Radfield

the fuck?
it's 15v5 and you don't want to lynch a mafia because lynching someone else is probably going to give more information?
You say you wouldn't mind lynching palmar but voted radfield?
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXxH_8Ep_ms

Is also directed at your most recent post Mr Hiro.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 13 2012 18:49 GMT
#2906
hey kurumi if you shoot mafia tomorrow I'll give you a treat
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 13 2012 18:58 GMT
#2916
On February 14 2012 03:55 Jayjay54 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2012 03:51 Kurumi wrote:
On February 14 2012 03:49 hiro protagonist wrote:
On February 14 2012 03:41 Kurumi wrote:
On February 14 2012 03:39 hiro protagonist wrote:
On February 14 2012 03:36 Kurumi wrote:
On February 14 2012 03:34 hiro protagonist wrote:
eh, your right layabout.

Palmar is scum or 3rd party. Nothing about his claim makes sense, and he has claimed a lot this game, dispite the fact that when people call him out on it he tells them to stop lying. He also makes cases, only then not to push them very hard. He sheeps Kumari, thus leavening his guilt at voting for someone on him. Palmar trolls alot as both town and scum, but he cant help but be useful as town even when he is trolling. Somethings off, and the simplest explanation is that he is not town. Scum Palmar can do all of this shit and get away with it because he is a very good at arguing himself out of a lynch. I think he is scum.

Palmar does not troll.
He claimed everything.
He coloured every player with corresponding colour to him, but he left himself with a rainbow.
He called Radfield Talia based on him surviving a shot.
He got rbed N2 instead of Radfield.
Radfield is alive on D3 when he claimed DT D2.
Ding-ding?

All WIFOM. these statements do not deduce aliment. Actions do, and his actions have not been protown in my eyes.

So Radfield is alive because of what?
He did not get shot N2. He did not get roleblocked N2.
Why he isn't dead?

Why is he not dead? They thought someone would be protecting him? Why no roleblock? Dont no. But If Rad was scum he could have easily claimed roleblocked, or come in with a "check" on someone that died last night, as is what happened, but so can real DTs. WIFOM. These incidents dont make someone scum, there actions do.

Double stack, do You think we've got stupid scum in this Player Roster?


tbf, they double (maybe triplestacked) doc in order to get rid of two confirmed blue roles in one strike. which is an understandable move...


don't you think a confirmed blue DT would be way more dangerous than a confirmed Veteran who already lost his 2nd live? Sure they want to get me as well but tripplestacking docH makes no sense if rad reall is a blue DT.
not RB'ing him doesn't make sense either.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 13 2012 19:00 GMT
#2921
maybe they even called bullshit on my immortality claim and tried to shoot me as well. Who knows. I don't get notifications.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 13 2012 19:03 GMT
#2923
On February 14 2012 04:01 Jayjay54 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2012 03:59 Kurumi wrote:
On February 14 2012 03:56 Kurumi wrote:
On February 14 2012 03:55 Jayjay54 wrote:
On February 14 2012 03:51 Kurumi wrote:
On February 14 2012 03:49 hiro protagonist wrote:
On February 14 2012 03:41 Kurumi wrote:
On February 14 2012 03:39 hiro protagonist wrote:
On February 14 2012 03:36 Kurumi wrote:
On February 14 2012 03:34 hiro protagonist wrote:
eh, your right layabout.

Palmar is scum or 3rd party. Nothing about his claim makes sense, and he has claimed a lot this game, dispite the fact that when people call him out on it he tells them to stop lying. He also makes cases, only then not to push them very hard. He sheeps Kumari, thus leavening his guilt at voting for someone on him. Palmar trolls alot as both town and scum, but he cant help but be useful as town even when he is trolling. Somethings off, and the simplest explanation is that he is not town. Scum Palmar can do all of this shit and get away with it because he is a very good at arguing himself out of a lynch. I think he is scum.

Palmar does not troll.
He claimed everything.
He coloured every player with corresponding colour to him, but he left himself with a rainbow.
He called Radfield Talia based on him surviving a shot.
He got rbed N2 instead of Radfield.
Radfield is alive on D3 when he claimed DT D2.
Ding-ding?

All WIFOM. these statements do not deduce aliment. Actions do, and his actions have not been protown in my eyes.

So Radfield is alive because of what?
He did not get shot N2. He did not get roleblocked N2.
Why he isn't dead?

Why is he not dead? They thought someone would be protecting him? Why no roleblock? Dont no. But If Rad was scum he could have easily claimed roleblocked, or come in with a "check" on someone that died last night, as is what happened, but so can real DTs. WIFOM. These incidents dont make someone scum, there actions do.

Double stack, do You think we've got stupid scum in this Player Roster?


tbf, they double (maybe triplestacked) doc in order to get rid of two confirmed blue roles in one strike. which is an understandable move...

Hits were on DocH and me. No vigilante claimed shooting me. So it was either Schworz(cause he's insane) or scum kp.

Also "Two"? Since when "one" is "two"? You thought Palmar was going to hit Toad?

yup, he will. you'll see. in the not so likely case that palmar isn't batman, some other batman will kill him. I am 90% sure.


he wasn't asking about what palmar is going to do and kurumi misunderstood what you said earlier.

jj said they wanted to get rid of two powerroles. Therefore they double or tripplestacked the clayface to get me the next cycle or make me mortal again so that batman does that. That's very much understandable but Radfield would be a much higher priority than I am. Especially if you look at what you said earlier: I'm shooting townies left and right this game.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 13 2012 19:05 GMT
#2925
BTW I already said I don't know if I got hit, right? Apparently radfield knew he got hit, so it has to be a medic or him being talia
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 13 2012 19:11 GMT
#2931
On February 14 2012 04:05 Jayjay54 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2012 03:58 Toadesstern wrote:
On February 14 2012 03:55 Jayjay54 wrote:
On February 14 2012 03:51 Kurumi wrote:
On February 14 2012 03:49 hiro protagonist wrote:
On February 14 2012 03:41 Kurumi wrote:
On February 14 2012 03:39 hiro protagonist wrote:
On February 14 2012 03:36 Kurumi wrote:
On February 14 2012 03:34 hiro protagonist wrote:
eh, your right layabout.

Palmar is scum or 3rd party. Nothing about his claim makes sense, and he has claimed a lot this game, dispite the fact that when people call him out on it he tells them to stop lying. He also makes cases, only then not to push them very hard. He sheeps Kumari, thus leavening his guilt at voting for someone on him. Palmar trolls alot as both town and scum, but he cant help but be useful as town even when he is trolling. Somethings off, and the simplest explanation is that he is not town. Scum Palmar can do all of this shit and get away with it because he is a very good at arguing himself out of a lynch. I think he is scum.

Palmar does not troll.
He claimed everything.
He coloured every player with corresponding colour to him, but he left himself with a rainbow.
He called Radfield Talia based on him surviving a shot.
He got rbed N2 instead of Radfield.
Radfield is alive on D3 when he claimed DT D2.
Ding-ding?

All WIFOM. these statements do not deduce aliment. Actions do, and his actions have not been protown in my eyes.

So Radfield is alive because of what?
He did not get shot N2. He did not get roleblocked N2.
Why he isn't dead?

Why is he not dead? They thought someone would be protecting him? Why no roleblock? Dont no. But If Rad was scum he could have easily claimed roleblocked, or come in with a "check" on someone that died last night, as is what happened, but so can real DTs. WIFOM. These incidents dont make someone scum, there actions do.

Double stack, do You think we've got stupid scum in this Player Roster?


tbf, they double (maybe triplestacked) doc in order to get rid of two confirmed blue roles in one strike. which is an understandable move...


don't you think a confirmed blue DT would be way more dangerous than a confirmed Veteran who already lost his 2nd live? Sure they want to get me as well but tripplestacking docH makes no sense if rad reall is a blue DT.
not RB'ing him doesn't make sense either.


yup, I don't get the RB. Maybe they tried to save a member in blocking batman. That is the only thing I can think of. Instantly loosing a team member is worse than a red DT check (with a good chance on a green/blue check)

I am just trying to see every angle. If we mislynch our single DT, which showed pro town behaviour so far, we will hate ourselves, this isn't a light decision, nor should it be. We can probably lose or win the game here.


agree, this is a turning point but I simply can't believe we'll end up having wbg + forumite + palmar + kurumite as reds.
If palmar really is batman he does not want to lie to us unless he never shot radfield but DT'ed him instead and wants us to take out hugo so that he can shoot me next night. I can live with that (ehehe, got the pun? )
Or he's not batman at all and is CW instead. That only makes sense if he already knows both penguin and two-face, wants us to lynch one of them and will win the game at night.
That's the only 2 scenarios I see him lying to us and only the 2nd one is a problem.

The only issue I have is that we're bound to have both penguin and Two-Face in this game.
Schworz I want you to tell us your check on Chaoser. I need to know if you're twoface and I don't care if you die. If you are not two-face there's got to be someone else being two-face who is not feeling like claiming or we might bullshit right now.
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